Re: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread Mike Bilow
You are missing that nasty "--absolute-paths" ("-P") switch on tar to preserve the leading slash. It may or may not be what you want. In general, a better approach is to tell tar to make a particular directory the current directory before executing, using the "--directory" ("-C") switch. For ex

Re: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread MacPiano
In a message dated 3/31/00 5:17:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Use tape! Raid shouldn't replace tapes, they serve different (but >sometimes similar) purposes. I agree. I just bought a 50 gig native tape backup drive ($3700) to back up my raid array. I didn't have any luck when I did tar cvf

Re: Disk v. Tape Backup -- Re: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread Mike Bilow
Why are you backing up? What if your machine catches fire? What if your office catches fire? What if someone steals your machine? What if your power supply sends mains voltage to every device in the case? -- Mike On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Jeff Hill wrote: > I know this is off-topic, but since i

Re: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread Mike Bilow
Probably because the installer does not handle it. I have been working on the Debian end of the same issue, and the problems pretty much amount to this, based on the current potato snapshot: 1. The kernel has to be patched with the newest RAID v0.90 code and rebuilt, and then put onto the first

RE: Disk v. Tape Backup -- Re: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread Gregory Leblanc
> -Original Message- > From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 3:32 PM > To: Gregory Leblanc > Cc: 'Jeff Hill'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Disk v. Tape Backup -- Re: root on RAID > >

Re: Disk v. Tape Backup -- Re: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 02:56:57PM -0800, Gregory Leblanc wrote: > un-planned need to restore an entire system from tape. Usually the restores > that I do are because Joe User deleted his all important spreadsheet, and > NEEDS to have it back. I definately agree that RAID shouldn't (and can't) >

Re: Disk v. Tape Backup -- Re: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread phil
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 05:38:27PM +, Jeff Hill wrote: > I know this is off-topic, but since it was brought up ;) > > Why not use an old disk, outside of the RAID, for backups? I mount old > IDE drives for backups only: tarring the entire system to the backup > drive once a week, changed file

RE: Disk v. Tape Backup -- Re: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread Gregory Leblanc
Both of my replies are below. > -Original Message- > From: Jeff Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 9:38 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Gregory Leblanc; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Disk v. Tape Backup -- Re: root on RAID > > > I

Disk v. Tape Backup -- Re: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread Jeff Hill
I know this is off-topic, but since it was brought up ;) Why not use an old disk, outside of the RAID, for backups? I mount old IDE drives for backups only: tarring the entire system to the backup drive once a week, changed files daily. Seems to work better for me than tapes which always had prob

Re: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread phil
Use tape! Raid shouldn't replace tapes, they serve different (but sometimes similar) purposes. Phil On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 01:38:11PM -0800, Gregory Leblanc wrote: > > > > Are you talking about going from RAID to non-RAID? > > Actually, I'm talking about OS failures, not disk failures. RA

RE: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread Gregory Leblanc
> -Original Message- > From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 12:06 PM > To: Gregory Leblanc > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: root on RAID > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:42:01AM -0800, Gregory Leblanc wrote: > &g

Re: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:42:01AM -0800, Gregory Leblanc wrote: > Mostly because it's (pardon my French) a bitch to recover from. RAID5 and ??? > (although still not as easy as a plain mirror), while a stripe of two > mirrors (RAID01) is a real pain to recover from. Mostly this applies to ??

RE: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread Gregory Leblanc
> -Original Message- > From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 11:15 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: root on RAID > > > > > RedHat Linux 6.1 has the following warning: > > > The installation of Red Hat Li

RE: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread Michael
> > RedHat Linux 6.1 has the following warning: > > The installation of Red Hat Linux's root partition onto a > > RAID device is not supported. > I don't know why they say this, seems a little silly to me. I've > got ROOT installed on both hardware and software RAID here, works > fine. >For s

RE: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread Gregory Leblanc
> -Original Message- > From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 9:46 AM > To: Glenn Hudson > Cc: Linux-RAID > Subject: Re: root on RAID > > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 09:27:59AM +, Glenn Hudson wrote: > > The ins

Re: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 09:27:59AM +, Glenn Hudson wrote: > The installation of Red Hat Linux's root partition onto a RAID device is > not supported. > > Do you know what problems having the root partition on RAID will cause? There are no problems, but the Redhat installer doesn't handle it

RE: root on RAID

2000-03-31 Thread Gregory Leblanc
> -Original Message- > From: Glenn Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 1:28 AM > To: Linux-RAID > Subject: root on RAID > > > RedHat Linux 6.1 has the following warning: > > http://www.redhat.com/support/hardware/intel/61/rh6.1-hcl-i.ld > -5.html#ss5.6 > 5.6