Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Gareth Williams
> My point here is, restricted as I was, how was I supposed to have > obtained the knowledge, possibly through gui help or cli info/man, on > adjusting the screen resolution and on readjusting the mouse drivers. Both are configured in your XF86Config file. Had you not always relied on a gui to se

Re: Email formats

2004-02-04 Thread John S Veitch
Rowan asked about getting email with strange characters. The little boxes are almost certainly Tabs. The most likely thing Rowan is that someone wrote a letter in a word processor and did a copy and paste into the email client. The word processor has all sorts of special formatting and instr

Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Michael Pearce
> So in the end I just decided to get a Knoppix iso, and I'll hook it to > apt after it is installed. One hint after installing knoppix.. if you are non german speaker / typer then do the following After the first boot switch to a console, login as root rm -R --force /home/knoppix/* E

fstab command

2004-02-04 Thread Roger Searle
Hi, run into a problem mounting a network drive . . . I am successfully mounting a desktop hard drive with: smbmount //celeron/n /mnt/ndrive -o credentials=/home/roger/.smbpasswd which works fine. So I've added a line to fstab like this: \\celeron\n /mnt/ndrive smbfs c

Re: CLUG meetings-the future

2004-02-04 Thread Yuri de Groot
> PS > The (neutral) fact is John, your posts gather credence the > moment your email header shows you no longer post from > Pegasus on Windows. :-| Do you need help achieving > this? LOL. How do you know he isn't posting from work? Yuri

Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Mike Beattie
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 08:38:05AM +1300, Brad Beveridge wrote: > from my work windows box) so I'll get an iso. Wait, there's 10 isos > here - which one do I need to get? The first one, the first 3? > Will it break if I only get the first one? Etc. No, the first would have been more than su

Re: CLUG meetings-the future

2004-02-04 Thread Carl Cerecke
Paul William wrote: We had this discussion a year ago didnt we? The result: http://lists.ethernal.org/cantlug-0301/msg00416.html Yes, we did. But it is time, IMHO, to revisit it again. Cheers, Carl.

RE: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Brad Beveridge
Yeah, the install instructions were not that bad. Actually getting the ISOs annoyed me more, either use this weird jigdo thing, or download isos from a mirror. Cool, OK jigdo sounds like too much work (at least from my work windows box) so I'll get an iso. Wait, there's 10 isos here - which one

Redhat

2004-02-04 Thread stm23
hi, i've just purchased a new laptop & wanted to install the latest version of the Redhat OS - so that i can replicate the canterbury university's cosc lab computers. does any1 know where i can find a copy? are there any installfests coming up, like last year? also how much space does the OS

Re: Redhat

2004-02-04 Thread Rik Tindall
stm23 wrote: hi, i've just purchased a new laptop & wanted to install the latest version of the Redhat OS - so that i can replicate the canterbury university's cosc lab computers. does any1 know where i can find a copy? are there any installfests coming up, like last year? also how much spac

RE: Redhat

2004-02-04 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
I have version 9 isos which I am happy to burn for you. Let me know if you want them. Regards, Robert What Do Fish Say When They Hit a Concrete Wall? Dam! -Original Message- From: stm23 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2004 11:52 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Redhat

2004-02-04 Thread Slosh
stm23 wrote: > hi, i've just purchased a new laptop & wanted to install the latest version of > the Redhat OS - so that i can replicate the canterbury university's cosc lab > computers. does any1 know where i can find a copy? are there any > installfests coming up, like last year? also how much

Re: Email formats

2004-02-04 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 07:30:07 +1300 John S Veitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rowan asked about getting email with strange characters. The little > boxes are almost certainly Tabs. > > The most likely thing Rowan is that someone wrote a letter in a word > processor and did a copy and paste in

Re: Redhat

2004-02-04 Thread Peter Glassenbury
stm23 wrote: hi, i've just purchased a new laptop & wanted to install the latest version of the Redhat OS - so that i can replicate the canterbury university's cosc lab computers. We are not running the latest version -- Sticking to RH9 and leaving fedora etc for another year. does any1 know

Re: Redhat

2004-02-04 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> I have version 9 isos which I am happy to burn for you. Dito, and on DVD if you like. I'd recommend SUSE instead though (it's also newer). Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list pos

RE: Redhat

2004-02-04 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
These discussions about RedHat at Cant. Uni have me wondering. One of my sons is starting a Computer Science course at Cant. Uni. This year. For the past couple of years I have been espousing the virtues of Linux to him but he has stuck with MS. Will he be "compelled" to "see the light" when he ge

Re: Redhat

2004-02-04 Thread Slosh
Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: > These discussions about RedHat at Cant. Uni have me wondering. One of my > sons is starting a Computer Science course at Cant. Uni. This year. For the > past couple of years I have been espousing the virtues of Linux to him but > he has stuck with MS. > > Will he

RE: Redhat

2004-02-04 Thread Zane Gilmore
If he is doing Comp Sci then he will be using Linux. In later years he will probably find it easier to use Linux to do his work at home but probably not compulsory. I switched to Linux in my second year doing Comp. Sci. while I was trying to produce a program that made Win95 crash more than half

Re: CLUG meetings-the future

2004-02-04 Thread Zane Gilmore
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 23:55, Carl Cerecke wrote: > Paul William wrote: > > We had this discussion a year ago didnt we? The result: > > http://lists.ethernal.org/cantlug-0301/msg00416.html > > Yes, we did. But it is time, IMHO, to revisit it again. Sigh, this means more "motion moving" again doesn

REDHAT 9 INSTALLATION

2004-02-04 Thread stm23
hi, thanx for all yr offers to burn the cds for me, & yr quick replies :) i actually have my own copy of Redhat9, i just thought that the uni would be running a new version (which i now know they aren't) - so i'll just use the old version. does any1 know of a good website which explains step-b

Re: REDHAT 9 INSTALLATION

2004-02-04 Thread Rik Tindall
stm23 wrote: hi, thanx for all yr offers to burn the cds for me, & yr quick replies :) i actually have my own copy of Redhat9, i just thought that the uni would be running a new version (which i now know they aren't) - so i'll just use the old version. does any1 know of a good website which e

Re: REDHAT 9 INSTALLATION

2004-02-04 Thread Slosh
stm23 wrote: > hi, thanx for all yr offers to burn the cds for me, & yr quick replies :) > i actually have my own copy of Redhat9, i just thought that the uni would be > running a new version (which i now know they aren't) - so i'll just use the > old version. does any1 know of a good website whic

RE: REDHAT 9 INSTALLATION

2004-02-04 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
I think the best way is to have spare space/partitions for your Linux OS so if you have XP over your whole disc now you may need something like partition magic to resize it. IIRC it is best to have Windows installed before Linux when dual booting (which you already have) The GUI based installatio

RE: REDHAT 9 INSTALLATION

2004-02-04 Thread Brad Beveridge
What sort of laptop do you have? I'd check on the net for linux compatiblity. Secondly, you'll need to resize your NTFS partition - which can possibly lose data & may not be for the faint of heart. Cheers Brad > -Original Message- > From: stm23 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday

LAPTOP SPECS

2004-02-04 Thread stm23
here's my laptop specs in case they help determine the best installation method for Redhat9 (via CD) 1.4 GHz pentium mobile 512MB RAM 30GB cheers, sam

Re: LAPTOP SPECS

2004-02-04 Thread Rik Tindall
stm23 wrote: here's my laptop specs in case they help determine the best installation method for Redhat9 (via CD) 1.4 GHz pentium mobile 512MB RAM 30GB cheers, sam Acer? Onboard NIC? modem?.. ...

Re: REDHAT 9 INSTALLATION

2004-02-04 Thread Roger Searle
loads of manuals here: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/ (it looks like I need to spend some time there too) Roger stm23 wrote: hi, thanx for all yr offers to burn the cds for me, & yr quick replies :) i actually have my own copy of Redhat9, i just thought that the uni would be running

LAPTOP: DELL INSPIRON 600m

2004-02-04 Thread stm23

RE: LAPTOP SPECS

2004-02-04 Thread stm23
56 modem, not sure what onboard NIC is >= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = >stm23 wrote: > >>here's my laptop specs in case they help determine the best installation >>method >>for Redhat9 (via CD) >> >>1.4 GHz pentium mobile >>512MB RAM >>30GB >> >>cheers, sam >> >> >> >> >>

Re: LAPTOP: DELL INSPIRON 600m

2004-02-04 Thread Rik Tindall
stm23 wrote: Well, at least this explains why you never tried Knoppix b4 buying. The price must have been right! I selected a Compaq (& Knoppix install) after some instore research last August - remaining problems, esp an Xtra/hardware issue that has it still offline, are too complex for da

Re: LAPTOP: DELL INSPIRON 600m

2004-02-04 Thread Synco Reynders
I found this to be a good site before buying a laptop: Linux on laptops http://www.linux-laptop.net/ Looking up your machine I read passages like: "Dell Inspiron 600m running Red Hat 9 In my opinion, it seems that dell tried to make this laptop as Linux un-friendly as possible. I've tried to inst

RE: LAPTOP SPECS

2004-02-04 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Another recommendation (from someone who was a newbie with RedHat once) - if your hard disc is large enough, RedHat gives you an option to install "everything" which I found very helpful when learning. My progress was not hindered by having to install anything. Robert -Original Message-

Re: REDHAT 9 INSTALLATION

2004-02-04 Thread Jason Greenwood
I would recommend Mandrake instead of RedHat for beginners anyway. It resizes NTFS no dramas. It is similar enough to RedHat that it should be just fine for Uni. My .0002c worth. Cheers Jason Brad Beveridge wrote: What sort of laptop do you have? I'd check on the net for linux compatiblity.

Re: Redhat

2004-02-04 Thread Peter Glassenbury
Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: These discussions about RedHat at Cant. Uni have me wondering. One of my sons is starting a Computer Science course at Cant. Uni. This year. For the past couple of years I have been espousing the virtues of Linux to him but he has stuck with MS. Will he be "compel

RE: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Brad Beveridge
To continue (sort of), I've now managed to install Debian via Knoppix. How can I use the various apt commands to tell me what packages are installed? Cheers Brad

resizing partitions (was REDHAT 9 INSTALLATION)

2004-02-04 Thread Roger Searle
Jason, could I clarify: do you mean that Mandrake can do a non-destructive resizing of an existing partition as part of an installation? I'm asking because I have some Mandrake disks here and wanted to put linux on my laptop too, but am too lazy to set up windows again. I don't have any windo

Re: REDHAT 9 INSTALLATION

2004-02-04 Thread Chad
Or you could just use Mandrake-linux's 9.2 Harddrive Partioning tool seeing it can deal with NTFS. And happens to be free being linux. Just get a mandrake install CD and stick it in partion it then either install Mandrake or quit the installation and load Red hat instead. Chad On Thu, 05 Feb

Re: resizing partitions (was REDHAT 9 INSTALLATION)

2004-02-04 Thread Chad
Roger Mandrake 9.2 and later (not sure about 9.1) can do non-destructive resizing of ntfs you need to defrag in windows then just use the Mandrake tools. I've can't remember any one having a problem with it. Chad On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 14:36, Roger Searle wrote: > Jason, could I clarify: do you

RE: LAPTOP SPECS

2004-02-04 Thread stm23
hi, if i were to do a full install (i.e. installing everything) for Redhat 9, what size partition would u recommend making? this partition will only be for Redhat, i'll keep all documents, music, movies etc in a seperate shared drive. using partition magic what sort of partition setup do u thin

Re: resizing partitions

2004-02-04 Thread Roger Searle
Thanks, Chad. I only have 9.0 - anyone know if that includes the tools? Or alternatively would anyone in chch be so kind as to burn (blanks replaced of course) or loan me a set of 9.2 disks? Roger Chad wrote: Roger Mandrake 9.2 and later (not sure about 9.1) can do non-destructive resizing

RE: LAPTOP SPECS

2004-02-04 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
IIRC you need at least 3Gb for an "everything" install of RH. I think it is also a good idea to create a FAT32 partition where you could keep files to be used by both OS's (I do not think Linux NTFS access is very stable yet) Regards, Robert What Do Fish Say When They Hit a Concrete Wall? Dam!

RE: resizing partitions

2004-02-04 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Would you like to get them from me here at work this afternoon? Moorhouse Ave. Regards, Robert What Do Fish Say When They Hit a Concrete Wall? Dam! -Original Message- From: Roger Searle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2004 3:07 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] S

Re: LAPTOP SPECS

2004-02-04 Thread Chad
More like #(DELL # NTFS(XP) # LINUX # LINUX SWAP #FAT32(DOCS) # # UTIL)# 5GB# 4-5GB? # 500MB # what ever is left # Windows Can't read linux. Linux can Read windows (ntfs) partions but can't write to them. Linux needs an installation partion and a Swap

RE: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 14:34, Brad Beveridge wrote: > How can I use the various apt commands to tell me what packages are > installed? dpkg -l will tell you what you have - look for lines starting with "ii" for packages that are really installed. apt-cache policy will tell you where a package c

RE: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Brad Beveridge
Thanks muchness - just what I wanted! Brad > -Original Message- > From: Jim Cheetham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 3:15 PM > To: canterbury linux users group > Subject: RE: Getting Debian > > > On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 14:34, Brad Beveridge wrote: > > How c

Re: resizing partitions

2004-02-04 Thread Roger Searle
That would be fantastic (normally), but I'm working at home today and am at West Melton. Could I do that on Monday? Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: Would you like to get them from me here at work this afternoon? Moorhouse Ave. Regards, Robert What Do Fish Say When They Hit a Concrete Wal

Re: LAPTOP SPECS

2004-02-04 Thread Slosh
> Windows Can't read linux. Linux can Read windows (ntfs) partions but can't > write to them. Actually I downloaded a program and it allowed me to read (not write) Linux as another hard drive on my system. It worked fine apart form ocassionally reporting that folders were files. If you like I'll t

RE: resizing partitions

2004-02-04 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Or I could take them home for you to collect in the weekend from Queenspark - if you like. Regards, Robert What Do Fish Say When They Hit a Concrete Wall? Dam! -Original Message- From: Roger Searle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2004 3:20 p.m. To: [EMAIL P

Re: LAPTOP SPECS

2004-02-04 Thread Chad
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 15:21, Slosh wrote: > > Windows Can't read linux. Linux can Read windows (ntfs) partions but > > can't write to them. > > Actually I downloaded a program and it allowed me to read (not write) Linux > as another hard drive on my system. It worked fine apart form ocassionally > re

thanks to you all

2004-02-04 Thread Roger Searle
Thanks alot Robert, but I'll be away half the weekend and being a Dad the other half so won't have the chance. And hey, to everyone, just wanted to say I'm glad to have found CLUG and a bunch of people into linux - this is a very cool and supportive place to spend (some) time :-) Cheers... Ro

RE: LAPTOP SPECS

2004-02-04 Thread Carl Douglas
try this: http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/projects/projects.htm -Original Message- From: Chad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2004 3:31 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LAPTOP SPECS On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 15:21, Slosh wrote: > > Windows Can't read linux. Linux ca

RE: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 15:15, Jim Cheetham wrote: > apt-cache search will look for packages called, or mentioning, > . i.e. apt-cache search game will show most games. I use a memorable TLA as a function for this in bash ... wtf () { apt-cache search $* | less } [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ wtf wor

PARTITIONING

2004-02-04 Thread stm23
hi, if i were to do a full Redhat9 install (i.e. installing everything, what size partition would u recommend making? this partition will only be for Redhat, i'll keep all documents, music, movies etc in a seperate shared partition. using partition magic what sort of setup do u think i should

PARTITIONING

2004-02-04 Thread stm23
hi, if i were to do a full Redhat9 install (i.e. installing everything, what size partition would u recommend making? this partition will only be for Redhat, i'll keep all documents, music, movies etc in a seperate shared partition. using partition magic what sort of setup do u think i should

Exim and Maildirs

2004-02-04 Thread Jamie Dobbs
Have been in the process of setting up a Debian box to act as a mail server at home. I've got to the point where everything works except I can't for the life of me work out how to get exim to use Maildirs - can someone help. FYI - I'm running Sarge rather than Woody if that makes much of a diffence

Re: LAPTOP SPECS

2004-02-04 Thread Hadley Rich
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 15:31, you wrote: > Thats likely to dependant on what filesystem your using for linux > (there is at least 5 that work for mandrake). Ext2 and Ext3 are > standard for many linux distros and pretty much all the older ones > and thats likely what the program supports. While I use

Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Nick Rout
stop being so bloody helpful! :-) On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 15:15:25 +1300 Jim Cheetham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 14:34, Brad Beveridge wrote: > > How can I use the various apt commands to tell me what packages are > > installed? > > dpkg -l will tell you what you have - lo

IGNORE PARTITIONING

2004-02-04 Thread stm23
sorry, didn't realise i'd already sent em'

Reading Ext in Windows (Was: Re: LAPTOP SPECS)

2004-02-04 Thread Slosh
> Explor2fs (http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm) is > one that I have seen around and used once or twice. > > HTH > > hads I realised I wasn't that clear. I found one which actually set it up as a drive letter in My Computer. I haven't had any luck finding it though, despite a b

Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 15:49, Nick Rout wrote: > stop being so bloody helpful! Sorry, I should be working I guess ... Anyway, I only learned Debian's stuff over the last few months ... so I'm still enthuiastic about sharing knowledge :-) -jim

Re: Exim and Maildirs

2004-02-04 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 15:42, Jamie Dobbs wrote: > Have been in the process of setting up a Debian box to act as a mail > server at home. I've got to the point where everything works except I > can't for the life of me work out how to get exim to use Maildirs - can > someone help. > FYI - I'm runnin

Re: REDHAT 9 INSTALLATION

2004-02-04 Thread Rik Tindall
Jason Greenwood wrote: I would recommend Mandrake instead of RedHat for beginners anyway. It resizes NTFS no dramas. It is similar enough to RedHat that it should be just fine for Uni. My .0002c worth. Cheers Jason [clip] Interested to hear whether this method works out for you Sam, or anyon

Re: resizing partitions (was REDHAT 9 INSTALLATION)

2004-02-04 Thread Jason Greenwood
As Chad said so well, yes. =) Roger Searle wrote: Jason, could I clarify: do you mean that Mandrake can do a non-destructive resizing of an existing partition as part of an installation? I'm asking because I have some Mandrake disks here and wanted to put linux on my laptop too, but am too laz

RE: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Brad Beveridge
OK, one more (I promise) What do I set my etc/apt/source.list file to to use NZ servers? I tried changing the knoppix default Ftp2.de To ftp.nz.debian.org And commented out all but the "stable" comments - it connects & finds some packages, but borks on lots as well. Brad > -Original Mes

RE: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Brad Beveridge
Scratch that - the knoppix source.list file doesn't match the NZ mirror layout. > -Original Message- > From: Brad Beveridge > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 4:45 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Getting Debian > > > OK, one more (I promise) > What do I set my etc/apt/source.

Re: PARTITIONING

2004-02-04 Thread Col
stm23 wrote: hi, if i were to do a full Redhat9 install (i.e. installing everything, what size partition would u recommend making? this partition will only be for Redhat, i'll keep all documents, music, movies etc in a seperate shared partition. using partition magic what sort of setup do u t

Robert, Volker or Rik

2004-02-04 Thread stm23
hi, i've just discovered that i actually do need a copy of Redhat 9.0. are any of u still able to burn me a copy?, i'd really appreciate it :). i can either give u some blank discs (3 right??) or pay for them, whichever is easiest. also, what day, time... would suit u? any of u live close to

Re: Robert, Volker or Rik

2004-02-04 Thread Robert Fisher
My RedHat iso's are at work so if you still want them on Monday let me know. -- Robert Fisher www.fisher.net.nz I'm just saying, why not have two geniuses in the family? Sort of a spare in case Bart's brain blows up. -- Homer Simpson Bart the Genius

Re: Robert, Volker or Rik

2004-02-04 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 17:22, you wrote: > hi, i've just discovered that i actually do need a copy of Redhat 9.0. are > any of u still able to burn me a copy?, i'd really appreciate it :). i can > either give u some blank discs (3 right??) or pay for them, whichever is > easiest. also, what day, ti

Dinner was great

2004-02-04 Thread anton
Hiyas All ye who didn't make it to dinner last night missed out - the food was great and the company too! Also, I stand by my opinion that 2 fat indians is at least as good as Raj Mahal. The next question is... maybe meetings would be better over dinner every month (second month?)? I'm leaving i

Re: Getting Debian

2004-02-04 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 16:08:26 +1300 Jim Cheetham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 15:49, Nick Rout wrote: > > stop being so bloody helpful! > > Sorry, I should be working I guess ... > Anyway, I only learned Debian's stuff over the last few months ... so > I'm still enthuiastic a

KDE 3.2

2004-02-04 Thread Robert Fisher
KDE 3.2 is here (I mean here, on my machine) Yahoo! http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.2.php Paraphrasing Anton's signature Sent from the lovely Kontact in the lovely KDE 3.2 on the lovely Gentoo on the lovely Linux 2.6 -- Robert Fisher www.fisher.net.nz I'll work from midnight

Re: CLUG meetings-the future

2004-02-04 Thread Paul William
Why don't we have a simple online voting system? Each user who has posted in the last year gets emailed a randomly generated ID/password when they vote the id is deleted. This kind of system can he hosted anywhere and Zane we will not have 2 hassle Zane ;) On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 13:14, Zane Gilmore