Hi all,
late to the topic but.
Mandrake Mandrake Mandrake (clear yet)
Alternately K12 linux for schools based on Redhat(TM).
(also K12 terminal server) both at K12Linux.org.
available in NZ from www.linuxshop.co.nz if downloading
is a hassle.
For Grapics the GIMP=equivalent to photoshop.
Hi Keith, Terry, CF, Avonside Girls High etc and others.
I am currently working with the OSTC to look at running a presentation for
schools in about three weeks or so. We are hoping to invite IT people and
principals, staff etc from schools, give a short speil on what Linux and O/S
is and then
Greets list,
There are a couple of OSS projects which are imho worth investigating:-
http://kolab.kde.org/
This is a very new project, it's essentially a professional integration of
other smaller projects to make a functional OSS alternative to MS Exchange.
http://www.open-steam.org/index.html
Hi Terry
As a school principal and Linux fan I am going to suggest an
intermediate step that will not be popular with the list, but is
practical for schools.
Look at planning any change over you make. Any change in operating
system has huge implications for a school. Remember all the time it ha
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 23:17, Rob wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 18:54, Vik Olliver wrote:
> > I've got a wee bone to pick with Mozilla at the moment. I can no longer
> > drag URLs onto the bookmark toolbar. In fact, I can't seem to find any
> > way of getting my own bookmarks onto the bookmark tool
On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 18:54, Vik Olliver wrote:
> I've got a wee bone to pick with Mozilla at the moment. I can no longer
> drag URLs onto the bookmark toolbar. In fact, I can't seem to find any
> way of getting my own bookmarks onto the bookmark toolbar except under
> the "bookmarks" folder - the
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 05:59, Hamish McBrearty wrote:
> I second that. For me Linux is all about choice, I can choose my web
> browser, my mail client, my file manager. Sure you can do most of that on
> Windows, but there are times when Windows just ignores these settings. For
> instance, if I click
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:04, Bjorn Nilsen wrote:
> There is a tool called emerge that can export all mail boxes from an
> Exchange server to a PST. I used it about a year ago to migrate mail
> boxes from one Exchange server to another.
It is exmerge.exe and it is probably _the_ best tool when talkin
> > You can create individual PSTs from each user
>
> Not for 1400 users I won't
Ahhh, the idea of scripting an IMAP export is sounding promising then..
Nick R mentioned it, and I've done a bit of mucking around with the PHP
Imap tools for this when I was looking at replacing our exchange box..
I've looked at replacing our exchange box at work as well.. (150
mailboxes, over 10Gig of mail, turns over 30,000 messages a month)
I decided not to do so after a lot of soul searching, and testing with
other options, it may be a lump of junk in some respects but it is
probably the best integrate
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 15:45, CF wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 13:53, Sascha Beaumont wrote:
> > Basically you've got the choice of two camps, you can go the KDE way or
> > the Gnome2 way.
>
> Rubbish - I'm using gnome apps and kde apps and my window manager
> happens to be twm, with wdm as a logi
Thanks for all your comments.
I don't want to start wars amongst our selves about which solution is
the best, just try to get a feel for the way I should approach things.
I am so disillusioned with MS, I have been using local MSCE people who
know far less than I do. They charge over $90 per hour an
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 13:53, Sascha Beaumont wrote:
>> Basically you've got the choice of two camps, you can go the KDE way or
>> the Gnome2 way.
>
>Rubbish - I'm using gnome apps and kde apps and my window manager
>happens to be twm, with wdm as a login manager.
>
>Linux
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 14:14, Marc Archbold wrote:
> >I retract my statement earlier about "festering.." How about "simply
> totally unsuitable for schools" ?
>
> Please, elaborate.
Okay - after scraping up the money to buy a licence there is no
continual fund for calling expensive external peopl
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 13:53, Sascha Beaumont wrote:
> Basically you've got the choice of two camps, you can go the KDE way or
> the Gnome2 way.
Rubbish - I'm using gnome apps and kde apps and my window manager
happens to be twm, with wdm as a login manager.
Linux is not "choose KDE or gnome and y
Andy George wrote:
We find ourselves in a similar boat then... Good that you decided to
continue teaching...and especially in a field that so desperately
requires more, good teachers.
Yet pays them so poorly.
Cheers,
Carl.
We find ourselves in a similar boat then... Good that you decided to
continue teaching...and especially in a field that so desperately
requires more, good teachers.
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 15:06, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:48, you wrote:
> > "taught"? ...as in doesnt do th
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:48, you wrote:
> "taught"? ...as in doesnt do this any more?
As in at that particular intsitution, yes; in general no.
I'm going to display my skill-set to a small class of postulant devotees at
the OSTC next month. I'm looking forward to it.
--
Sincerely etc.,
Christoph
"taught"? ...as in doesnt do this any more?
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 14:05, Carl Cerecke wrote:
> Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:57, you wrote:
> >
> >>Forget Gentoo IMHO, unless you are very patient and very skilled.
> >
> >
> > I'm neither, yet I find that...
>
> C'mon C
>I retract my statement earlier about "festering.." How about "simply
totally unsuitable for schools" ?
Please, elaborate.
>I've never had any training on how to use exchange server - its too
expensive. Do you see the problem? At least with >>>an imap server
running on a linux box I can ask
Christopher Sawtell wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:57, you wrote:
Forget Gentoo IMHO, unless you are very patient and very skilled.
I'm neither,
LMAO!! Thanks Chris...that made my day. =)
yet I find that Gentoo gives me everything I need from a Linux
install. Now that Gentoo has all t
best I have seen bang
for buck.
> -Original Message-
> From: CF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 22 August 2003 12:49 p.m.
> To: Linux Users Group
> Subject: Re: Exchange server Re: Linux in schools
>
>
> On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 12:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED
Christopher Sawtell wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:57, you wrote:
Forget Gentoo IMHO, unless you are very patient and very skilled.
I'm neither, yet I find that...
C'mon Chris. You *taught* Linux at a local tertiary institution.
That requires large amounts of both skill *and* patience.
Probably m
Basically you've got the choice of two camps, you can go the KDE way or
the Gnome2 way.
Seeing as how you're already using RH9, and presumably familiar with its
configuration tools - stick with it. I've heard mixed things about
RedHat, personally I'm a Debian fan.
Rather that simply setting up on
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:57, you wrote:
> Forget Gentoo IMHO, unless you are very patient and very skilled.
I'm neither, yet I find that Gentoo gives me everything I need from a Linux
install. Now that Gentoo has all the popular application programs available
in binary form, and the genkernel scri
There are some excellent programmes out there to allow you web access to your
mail. If for instance you place your mail on one good machine then even
piddly P75's can handle what is required to get web mail working. This would
also allow you to manage things from one server , would allow roaming
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 12:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Having used, installed and cofigured exchange quite a bit in the past I can
> tell you that you are wrong on most counts below.
:-) I take it you've done this in a business setting.
> You can create individual PSTs from each user
Not for
> I believe that Ximians email product connects to
> an exchange server.
The Ximian Connector for Exchange plugin for Evolution is not free
(around US$25 per), but does offer full exchange connectivity via the
OWA and WebDav (so these must be turned on at the Exchange end). This
will also maintai
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:15:42 +1200
CF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 07:46, Terry Cole wrote:
> > With all the MS problems/virus as well as Exchange problems I have been
> > having..
>
> Others can comment on the rest, but since I have an exchange server here
> and probably m
Having used, installed and cofigured exchange quite a bit in the past I can
tell you that you are wrong on most counts below.
You can create individual PSTs from each user, or configure each computer to
maintain a local copy of their mail in order to move email from one server to
another, let
> Exchange is a festering heap of fertilliser. There is no way to move
> all the existing mail from ES to any other mailserver other than
> forwarding all email manually.
IBM / Lotus notes have an exchange connector. Lotus notes is also an excellent
mail server, runs on Linux, is secure and cost
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 07:46, Terry Cole wrote:
> With all the MS problems/virus as well as Exchange problems I have been
> having..
Others can comment on the rest, but since I have an exchange server here
and probably most of the problems you've had, I'll comment here.
Exchange is a festering hea
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:46, you wrote:
> Folks,
> With all the MS problems/virus as well as Exchange problems I have been
> having, I am keen to try a Linux option at our high school.
> I have RH 9 Web server that performs great, no downtime.
> I have spoken with our board chair who is also on my si
Linux Servers Advance on Enterprise
http://www.technewsworld.com/perl/story/31392.html
Hi Terry,
I advocate Mandrake as a far superior solution to RedHat. Mandrake
offers free updates and has a "graphical" centralised control centre for
system configuration. As far as "replacement apps" you may
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 07:46, Terry Cole wrote:
> Folks,
> With all the MS problems/virus as well as Exchange problems I have been
> having, I am keen to try a Linux option at our high school.
> I have RH 9 Web server that performs great, no downtime.
> I have spoken with our board chair who is also
My suggestion is a Ximian desktop, it has an oulook clone and is very smooth
and easy to use. It runs on Redhat and Debian. and other distros. Debian is a
distro worth looking into as well as it updates fro free where as redhat you
pay for auto updating etc.
(And before anyone starts a Gentoo
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