Re: Which one?

2002-06-11 Thread Ted Ozolins
On June 10, 2002 04:08 pm, Ken Moffat wrote: On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:40:44 -0700 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as using RH's update, its been a no go. I just tried the update agent on the gnome taskbar, and after registration it worked perfectly, giving me a choice of

Re: Which one?

2002-06-11 Thread Michael Hipp
I'd submit that you're barking up entirely the wrong tree if the goal really is something for newbies. Gentoo is definitely not for newbies and proud of it. SuSE could be except that alot of it just doesn't work right and their bazillion packages approach just confuses everything. Slack has

Re: Which one?

2002-06-11 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:26:59 -0500 Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (This topic makes me once again mourn the passing of Caldera. May it not RIP.) Are we sure caldera has left the building? -- Ken Moffat kmoffat@(nospam)drizzle.com ___

Re: Which one?

2002-06-11 Thread stayler
I still believe that Slackware is the way to go anymore.. stayler On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 14:58:30 -0400, Jerry McBride wrote: On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 13:51:09 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Red Hat G. That's what I'm doing with my new server and workstation Yeah... that's

Re: Which one?

2002-06-10 Thread Marianne Taylor
I use checkinstall and rpm to keep track of all the packages. On June 9, 2002 05:25 pm, you wrote: [ snips ] On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 19:01:48 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 13:29:24 -0600 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you care to put your automated

Re: Which one?

2002-06-10 Thread Marianne Taylor
I have a successful desktop system with LFS. I am running KDE 2.2.2 and Gnome 1.4. On June 9, 2002 09:25 am, you wrote: On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 09:12:29 -0700 Tom Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 09 June 2002 08:49, Collins carved in granite: On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 07:40:38 -0700 [EMAIL

Re: Which one?

2002-06-10 Thread Ted Ozolins
On June 8, 2002 01:21 am, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: Since Caldera firmly placed their daggers, choosing a distro that I can recommend to newbies has become an almost impossible task. Mandrake keeps loosing basic usb function but return on the next boot (doesn't find it at boot up but finds

Re: Which one?

2002-06-10 Thread Net Llama!
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Ted Ozolins wrote: boot up but finds it on the next boot) Redhat has become another M$ meaning you can not just go to their site and upgrade packages. You have to register on their site and create a profile with a list of installed packages (sound familiar?) along with

Re: Which one?

2002-06-10 Thread Andrew Mathews
Net Llama! wrote: On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Ted Ozolins wrote: boot up but finds it on the next boot) Redhat has become another M$ meaning you can not just go to their site and upgrade packages. You have to register on their site and create a profile with a list of installed packages (sound

Re: Which one?

2002-06-10 Thread Keith Morse
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Net Llama! wrote: On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Ted Ozolins wrote: boot up but finds it on the next boot) Redhat has become another M$ meaning you can not just go to their site and upgrade packages. You have to register on their site and create a profile with a list of

Re: Which one?

2002-06-10 Thread Net Llama!
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Keith Morse wrote: On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Net Llama! wrote: On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Ted Ozolins wrote: boot up but finds it on the next boot) Redhat has become another M$ meaning you can not just go to their site and upgrade packages. You have to register on their site

Re: Which one?

2002-06-10 Thread Ted Ozolins
On June 10, 2002 11:35 am, Net Llama! wrote: On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Ted Ozolins wrote: boot up but finds it on the next boot) Redhat has become another M$ meaning you can not just go to their site and upgrade packages. You have to register on their site and create a profile with a list of

Re: Which one?

2002-06-10 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Not here G! m.w.chang wrote: back to caldera ... ? :) Brett I. Holcomb wrote: maintain and keep updated. With Gentoo I'll have to play and go through the learning curve but I can do that later. I also looked a Lycois but couldn't really see why I would want it. It appears to

Re: Which one?

2002-06-10 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:40:44 -0700 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as using RH's update, its been a no go. I just tried the update agent on the gnome taskbar, and after registration it worked perfectly, giving me a choice of packages to update, including a new kernel. I chose all

Re: Which one?

2002-06-09 Thread rplummer
Hewy if you have a large enough hard drive, give em each about 5 gig and put both of them on, then if you have any room left, try Libranet, Elx, and whatever else you want to play with. It will give you some good experience dealing with multiple boots. Ray On 8 Jun 2002, at 14:45, Jerry

Re: Which one?

2002-06-09 Thread David A. Bandel
On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 07:40:38 -0700 begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: Hewy if you have a large enough hard drive, give em each about 5 gig and put both of them on, then if you have any room left, try Libranet, Elx, and whatever else you want to play with. It will give you some good

Re: Which one?

2002-06-09 Thread Collins
On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 07:40:38 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hewy if you have a large enough hard drive, give em each about 5 gig and put both of them on, then if you have any room left, try Libranet, Elx, and whatever else you want to play with. It will give you some good experience

Re: Which one?

2002-06-09 Thread Tom Condon
On Sunday 09 June 2002 09:25, Collins carved in granite: On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 09:12:29 -0700 Tom Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You left out the best learning tool (in my not so complete with it yet opinion) -- Linux From Scratch! Right on - the more the merrier. BTW, have you

Re: Which one?

2002-06-09 Thread Collins
On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 12:09:04 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 10:25:39 -0600 begin Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 09:12:29 -0700 Tom Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] You left out the best learning tool (in my

Re: Which one?

2002-06-09 Thread David A. Bandel
On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 11:31:16 -0600 begin Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 12:09:04 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 10:25:39 -0600 begin Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 09:12:29 -0700 Tom Condon

Re: Which one?

2002-06-09 Thread Collins
On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 13:35:53 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 11:31:16 -0600 begin Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 12:09:04 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 10:25:39 -0600 begin Collins

Re: Which one?

2002-06-09 Thread Kurt Wall
On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 13:29:24 -0600 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot quicker than doing it manually, since there was no automated LFS process at the time I last tried (dinosaurs roamed the earth). That long ago, Skippy actually looked good in a thong. ;-) Would you care to put your

Re: Which one?

2002-06-09 Thread David A. Bandel
On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 18:25:45 -0600 begin Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: [ snips ] On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 19:01:48 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 13:29:24 -0600 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you care to put your automated scripts on the

Re: Which one?

2002-06-09 Thread m.w.chang
back to caldera ... ? :) Brett I. Holcomb wrote: maintain and keep updated. With Gentoo I'll have to play and go through the learning curve but I can do that later. I also looked a Lycois but couldn't really see why I would want it. It appears to basically be Linux -- may the force,

Re: Which one?

2002-06-08 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Red Hat G. That's what I'm doing with my new server and workstation Jerry McBride wrote: What's a guy to do? I've got Suse 8.0 and the lastest Lycoris... and a new clone box going together... Which distribution should I try first? -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt

Re: Which one?

2002-06-08 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 13:51:09 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Red Hat G. That's what I'm doing with my new server and workstation Yeah... that's what everyone is doing. ;') I just want to be different I guess. --

Re: Which one?

2002-06-08 Thread Michael Hipp
I'm doing RedHat for anything important; Gentoo for fun; while keeping an eye on Lycoris. Michael OPCU (Once Proud Caldera User) On Saturday 08 June 2002 01:45 pm, Jerry McBride wrote: What's a guy to do? I've got Suse 8.0 and the lastest Lycoris... and a new clone box going together...

Re: Which one?

2002-06-08 Thread Richard R. Sivernell
On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 14:58:30 -0400 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 13:51:09 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Red Hat G. That's what I'm doing with my new server and workstation Yeah... that's what everyone is doing. ;') I just want to be

Re: Which one?

2002-06-08 Thread Kurt Wall
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 02:20:55 -0500 Richard R. Sivernell [snip] yesterday I bought a linux rag, actual 3 of them, one had to cds from Mandrak 8.2. guess I mak try it sometime. Another had the Intel c/c++ compile in a timed version. anyone try thenew intell compiler for linux. Yup. In some

Re: Which one?

2002-06-08 Thread Richard R. Sivernell
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 15:32:24 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 02:20:55 -0500 Richard R. Sivernell [snip] yesterday I bought a linux rag, actual 3 of them, one had to cds from Mandrak 8.2. guess I mak try it sometime. Another had the Intel c/c++ compile in a

Re: Which one?

2002-06-08 Thread Collins
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 03:21:49 -0500 Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 15:32:24 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 02:20:55 -0500 Richard R. Sivernell [snip] yesterday I bought a linux rag, actual 3 of them, one had to cds

Re: Which one?

2002-06-08 Thread Richard R. Sivernell
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 14:42:37 -0600 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 03:21:49 -0500 Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 15:32:24 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 02:20:55 -0500 Richard R. Sivernell [snip]

Re: Which one?

2002-06-08 Thread Collins
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 04:16:54 -0500 Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 14:42:37 -0600 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 03:21:49 -0500 Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 15:32:24 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL

Re: Which one?

2002-06-08 Thread Kurt Wall
On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 17:39:33 -0400 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 02:20:55 -0500 Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another had the Intel c/c++ compile in a timed version. anyone try thenew intell compiler for linux. Yeah, I grabbed a

Re: Which one?

2002-06-08 Thread Kurt Wall
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 03:21:49 -0500 Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Intel C++ compiler] Kurt Would you recommend moving to the Intel compiler, I do C++ development. I wouldn't *recommend* it. I don't know why, however, you couldn't give it a worthy test drive. GCC's

Re: Which one?

2002-06-08 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 18:11:08 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 17:39:33 -0400 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---snip--- There are some release notes or something on the CD in LJ that describe how Intel compiles the kernel with it. It's *way* more work