Re: shuttle disaster [OT]

2003-02-04 Thread m.w.chang
I recommend dismantling NASA until they can find a replacement for a guy like Wayne Ratiff... Not me, of course... :) Michael Scottaline wrote: > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:00:42 -0800 > Condon Thomas A KPWA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted: -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trus

Re: shuttle disaster [OT]

2003-02-04 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:00:42 -0800 Condon Thomas A KPWA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted: >Not to denigrate what it takes to be a car racer, but to travel to space I >wouldn't care if it was maintained by idiots. Oh, congress is involved >already. ;-}> = "S

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-04 Thread Gerry Doris
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Keith Antoine wrote: > On Tuesday 04 February 2003 22:52, dep wrote: > > > what is surprising is the continued arrogance of nasa in having never > > pondered having to rescue people from a crippled shuttle. > > If memory serves me no space agency of any description has, or ap

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-04 Thread Keith Antoine
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 22:52, dep wrote: > what is surprising is the continued arrogance of nasa in having never > pondered having to rescue people from a crippled shuttle. If memory serves me no space agency of any description has, or appeared to have, any rescue agenda in place at anytime

RE: shuttle disaster [OT]

2003-02-04 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA
Bill Campbell typed thusly on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:11 PM: > When I was racing cars for a living, I knew that there > was a certain danger involved every time I took my car on > the track. Furthermore there's a tremendous amount of > trust amongst the drivers wh

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-04 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 12:19:36PM -0800, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: .. >Or, as they would have said, "Morituri te salutamus!" The gladiators of old >Rome said this to the emperor before commencing, "We who are about to die >salute you." In my work on the Space Shuttle program some years ago I >

RE: shuttle disaster

2003-02-04 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA
Keith Antoine typed thusly on Monday, February 03, 2003 4:50 PM: > English is not Changs' first language. I believe that it > was not supposed to be taken as humerous, I did not. I > believe he was comparing what came out of NASA as being > the truth rather than often as

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-04 Thread ronnie gauthier
coming home unless NASA goes and gets them. Then go get them! But no, NASA just keeps quiet and feeds the US population and the rest of the world a dose of bullshit. On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:32:43 -0500 - Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: shuttle disaster &g

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-04 Thread Matthew Carpenter
I don't know... After 186 missions, 2 ending badly isn't AS bad as if it were 2 out of 10. Although after reading your weekly summary, I did learn a bit more about computer and technical failures which we DON'T hear every day. I like the $5/lb estimate. That would have been nice. On Tue, 4

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-04 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:25:45 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:26:36 +1000 > > Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday 04 February 2003 18:03, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > > > > > > Given

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-04 Thread Net Llama!
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, m.w.chang wrote: > tell ya.. the shuttle was shot down by this thing: > > http://www.hlj.com/cgi-perl/hljpage.cgi?BAN914203 > > it's all in one episode of the anime. :P You are truly a piece of work. Welcome to my kill file. -- ~~~

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-04 Thread Net Llama!
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:26:36 +1000 > Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tuesday 04 February 2003 18:03, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > > > > Given the literal tons of docs that any government project has, you > > > would think that a plan f

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-04 Thread dep
begin Roger Oberholtzer's quote: | All this said, I still think that NASA's record is quite good. I | mean, these are not production runs on production equipment. well, they've blown up half the fleet and have a catastrophic accident about 2 percent of the time. so i'm not sure what "bad" woul

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-04 Thread dep
begin Keith Antoine's quote: | What we are hearing here was that the astronauts were doomed at | takeoff from possible damage. We are also told that there was | insufficient fuel for them to rendezvous with the Space Station. We | are also told that they had insufficient supplies to wait for a |

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-04 Thread dep
begin Keith Antoine's quote: | From what we are seing on the news here they seem to be admitting | to somewhat lax proceedures. Cost cutting having an effect? to some extent, but that goes back to the early 1970s. from day one, the shuttle program has been both pointless and inefficient (whic

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-04 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:26:36 +1000 Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 04 February 2003 18:03, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > > Given the literal tons of docs that any government project has, you > > would think that a plan for what to do if there is a possible tile > > damage woul

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-04 Thread Keith Antoine
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 18:03, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > Given the literal tons of docs that any government project has, you would > think that a plan for what to do if there is a possible tile damage would > already be set out. As such, any prerequisites (space suites) would be in > place. I

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-04 Thread Keith Antoine
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 13:35, Ted Ozolins wrote: > dep wrote: > >i agree. though i am not, from long experience, prepared to pronounce > >nasa blameless. here's why: > > > >http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=318 > > I agree with you, How lame-brain can the power

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-04 Thread Keith Antoine
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 12:32, dep wrote: > begin Keith Antoine's quote: > | English is not Changs' first language. I believe that it was not > | supposed to be taken as humerous, I did not. I believe he was > | comparing what came out of NASA as being the truth rather than > | often as is th

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-04 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:06:10 -0800 Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 09:32:04PM -0500, dep wrote: > >begin Keith Antoine's quote: > > > >| English is not Changs' first language. I believe that it was not > >| supposed to be taken as humerous, I did not. I believe

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-03 Thread m.w.chang
tell ya.. the shuttle was shot down by this thing: http://www.hlj.com/cgi-perl/hljpage.cgi?BAN914203 it's all in one episode of the anime. :P dep wrote: > begin Bill Campbell's quote: > > | Sounds like typical government efficiency and coverups. > > pretty much, yeah. -- .~.Might, Co

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-03 Thread dep
begin Bill Campbell's quote: | Sounds like typical government efficiency and coverups. pretty much, yeah. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-03 Thread Bill Campbell
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 09:32:04PM -0500, dep wrote: >begin Keith Antoine's quote: > >| English is not Changs' first language. I believe that it was not >| supposed to be taken as humerous, I did not. I believe he was >| comparing what came out of NASA as being the truth rather than >| often as i

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-03 Thread Ted Ozolins
dep wrote: i agree. though i am not, from long experience, prepared to pronounce nasa blameless. here's why: http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=318 I agree with you, How lame-brain can the powers at NASA be to send a crew into space without even one space su

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-03 Thread Jack Berger
er > subjects, but I think it takes a real sub-human intellect to find > humor in the shuttle disaster. Meet the byte bucket. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-03 Thread Kurt Wall
Feigning erudition, dep wrote: % begin Keith Antoine's quote: % % | English is not Changs' first language. I believe that it was not % | supposed to be taken as humerous, I did not. I believe he was % | comparing what came out of NASA as being the truth rather than % | often as is the case, cove

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-03 Thread dep
begin Keith Antoine's quote: | English is not Changs' first language. I believe that it was not | supposed to be taken as humerous, I did not. I believe he was | comparing what came out of NASA as being the truth rather than | often as is the case, coverups' from government agancies.. This was |

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-03 Thread Keith Antoine
e > > about it and keep trying. hmm.. hahaa... dam.. too cool... > > You know, I can tolerate your incoherant ramblings on most other > subjects, but I think it takes a real sub-human intellect to find > humor in the shuttle disaster. Meet the byte bucket. English is not Changs

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-03 Thread Allan Rabenau
e fixed and they didn't lie about it and keep trying. hmm.. hahaa... dam.. too cool... You know, I can tolerate your incoherant ramblings on most other subjects, but I think it takes a real sub-human intellect to find humor in the shuttle disaster. Meet the byte bucket. Ditto... Being in t

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-03 Thread Jerry McBride
x27;t be fixed and they didn't lie > > about it and keep trying. hmm.. hahaa... dam.. too cool... > > You know, I can tolerate your incoherant ramblings on most other > subjects, but I think it takes a real sub-human intellect to find > humor in the shuttle disaster. Meet the byt

Re: shuttle disaster [OT]

2003-02-03 Thread Net Llama!
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, James Bonnet wrote: > m.w.chang wrote: > > > > > look at the faces of those scientists in NASA. That's what I called > > real experts. they knew a problem that couldn't be fixed and they > > didn't lie about it and keep trying. hmm.. hahaa... dam.. too cool... > > > I don't see

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-03 Thread Scott S. Jones D.C.
I see m.w.chang's comment not as acknowledgement of humor, but of the resolute honesty and coolheadedness exhibited by those courageous men and women attempting to right and unrightable wrong, as the shuttle disintegrated. Carry On... Dr. Jones On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 07:18, m.w.chang wr

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-03 Thread Dallam Wych
You know, I can tolerate your incoherant ramblings on most other subjects, but I think it takes a real sub-human intellect to find humor in the shuttle disaster. Meet the byte bucket. -- Dallam Wych [EMAIL PROTECTED] 60B9 5A73 E6B8 F087 66A4 Registered User #213656 942D F

Re: shuttle disaster [OT]

2003-02-03 Thread James Bonnet
m.w.chang wrote: look at the faces of those scientists in NASA. That's what I called real experts. they knew a problem that couldn't be fixed and they didn't lie about it and keep trying. hmm.. hahaa... dam.. too cool... I don't see the humor or the coolness in the deaths of 7 people.. This

shuttle disaster

2003-02-03 Thread m.w.chang
look at the faces of those scientists in NASA. That's what I called real experts. they knew a problem that couldn't be fixed and they didn't lie about it and keep trying. hmm.. hahaa... dam.. too cool... -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /(