Mark and all,
Well this seems like something somebody that is a bit to tightly
wrapped would dream of doing and might just carry out... Sick!
Mark Jeftovic wrote:
> All those advert emails NSI has been sending to domain holders just might get
> them blackholed:
>
> ---begin copy
>
> To: [EM
Joop and all,
Joop Teernstra wrote:
> >
> > FYI: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,0-39935,00.html?st.ne.140.head
> >
> >Very interesting. A change in ICANN strategy with respect to
> >Liability perhaps
> >
> This has nothing to do with ICANN and everything with trying to exploit a
> priva
>
> FYI: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,0-39935,00.html?st.ne.140.head
>
>Very interesting. A change in ICANN strategy with respect to
>Liability perhaps
>
This has nothing to do with ICANN and everything with trying to exploit a
privately owned substitute for an open DNS.
Centraal and R
Saturday, July 31, 1999, 9:21:43 AM, Mark C. Langston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Apparently Paul Vixie sent mail to a mailing list of RBL subscribers and
> interested 3rd parties, is seriously considering blackholing NSI for
> spamming its customer base.
> I don't want to get into whether the
>So you say that the EC has protectionist motivations in investigating NSI,
>and at the same time you acknowledge that there is no-one to protect.
Werner,
These are two entirely different topics. The term
"protectionist" is synonymous with strategic industrial
policy and preservation of domest
28 days and counting...
>Esther, Mike, Joe,
>
>Is there any particular ICANN view on efforts to set up alternative root
>systems? I'd figured that ICANN would be neutral on it--it's got a mandate
>to (eventually, if all proceeds a particular way) maintain and manage the
>contents of the legac
Tony,
> >But could you clarify *whom* the EC tries to protect by investigating
> >NSI, in your opinion?
> You're asking the same question that I am!
So you say that the EC has protectionist motivations in investigating NSI,
and at the same time you acknowledge that there is no-one to protect.
Jim and all,
Very well rebuffed here Jim, and on target as well. >;)
As you may well know, one of the circumstances surrounding the
SIngapore ICANN conference (A fiasco BTW), was that ICANN's
reported dealings with the than EC of which Mr. Bangemann was
a member, before forced to resign as
Mark and all, most especially Mark,
Thank you, Sir Mark, it likewise always to receive a post from you as
well, even though it is of a sarcastic tone. >;)
Now for the rest of your post... (See below your comments)
Mark Measday wrote:
> Always a pleasure to receive a post from you, Sir Je
Richard J. Sexton a écrit:
>
> He blackholed Real Audio, too.
This is the man who claims that "accuracy and reliability matter to
us. content and policy does not".
Michael Sondow I.C.I.I.U. http://www.iciiu.org
Tel. (2
A.M. Rutkowski wrote:
>
> The liability here is significant and goes well
> beyond Vixie to include any ISP using the RBL service.
> The potential consequential damages are pretty
> dramatic, and the preponderance of the business
> community will go ape if they know one person can
> shut off thei
Lessee if I get this right. Kashpureff made a voluntary
service - DNS take internic off the map, so he went to
jail. Vixie made a volunatry service take internic off
the map and thats ok.
Do I understand correctly?
--
Richard Sexton | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://dns.vrx.net/tech/rootzone
http:
All,
He also blackholed Mindspring for a short time through an NZ
company http://www.orbs.org, that has contracted to the ITU,
BTW... I have all the relevant documentation on that incident
myself...
Richard J. Sexton wrote:
> He blackholed Real Audio, too.
>
> Go Paul, go.
>
> At 09:21 AM 7/
> Ah, the dark side of private self-governance. Since the Internet can't be
> controlled by anyone, how could one person possibly have such power?
Paul Vixie and RBL don't hold that kind of power. What Vixie does is
offer me a service, to which I subscribe, that allows me to filter out
sources
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, Mark Measday wrote:
> Odd, given your arguments, that, with the good advice Mr B received at the EC,
> we do not see him at the helm of some more adventurous venture.
Good advice? From who?
Mr Bangemann headed up DG XIII, the telecommunications directorate. He was
of co
At 01:41 PM 7/31/99 , you wrote:
>for RBL. If there are, then the enormous influence of RBL and its impact on
>interconnectivity and therefore freedom of speech can simply be ignored.
>There are lots of substitutes for RBL, aren't there?
Right now, it's effectively a monopoly, like BIND. :-)
Do
A.M. Rutkowski wrote:
> The potential consequential damages are pretty
> dramatic, and the preponderance of the business
> community will go ape if they know one person can
> shut off their customer communications.
Ah, the dark side of private self-governance. Since the Internet can't be
cont
Always a pleasure to receive a post from you, Sir Jeff, and I thank you for the
unmerited comparison with the eminent Mr Crocker, whose tersity I have unfortunately
yet to emulate.
In fact I was trying to get Mr Dixon to put some more of his cogent prose online,
while also trying to point out tha
Exactly. But there is nothing other than those vicarious personal
conceptualizations, even if most of them are provably wrong given enough
time and resources. Given the available level of those factors, what
pragmatic solutions would one find? Greg Skinner's acceptance of differences
as a fact of
He blackholed Real Audio, too.
Go Paul, go.
At 09:21 AM 7/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Apparently Paul Vixie sent mail to a mailing list of RBL subscribers and
>interested 3rd parties, is seriously considering blackholing NSI for
>spamming its customer base.
--
Richard Sexton | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mark,
Paul does a commendable job maintaining the RBL service.
What is his rationale for such an extreme position -
a complaint by a competitor?
The liability here is significant and goes well
beyond Vixie to include any ISP using the RBL service.
The potential consequential damages are pretty
d
Kerry Miller replied:
> For instance, you [Richard ] wrote,
> > IRC is a very very hostile place...>
> and I absolutely agree.
Please.
IRC is not a place; it is a communications protocol with both clients and
servers that can communicate using it.
If the suggestion is to open board meeting
Apparently Paul Vixie sent mail to a mailing list of RBL subscribers and
interested 3rd parties, is seriously considering blackholing NSI for
spamming its customer base.
I don't want to get into whether the RBL is a good or bad thing. I've
used and recommended it in the past, and I understand Pa
Y2K and the Internet - Part 2: The U.S.
>From an interview on July 23rd, 1999, with Mr. Solomon Sampson, a
member of the ratings committee of Standard & Poors, Inc., the
foremost service which rates the credit-worthiness of the bonds and
other debt of U.S. corporations and state and municipal gov
At 01:58 PM 7/30/99 , you wrote:
>gTLD market share is at least 30% in those European countries
>where prices are comparable to those of NSI.
We'll see when Mark Lottor's new host/domain counts come out.
Actual COM, NET, and ORG use has not been anywhere near
that figure in any European country.
At 08:52 AM 7/31/99 +, you wrote:
>
>
>Richard wrote, tho Im really responding to Ben and the
>Berkmanites:
>> I've been trying to emulate the f2f group/association meting
>> in cyberspace for about 15 years. What I notice is, the physical
>> presence is vitally important. When people are di
http://com-
notes.house.gov/cchear/hearings106.nsf/eeae8466ba03a215852567
7f004b4d11/bcf8be32bd730c4f852567bd00735a56?OpenDocument
Dear Mr. Rutt:
I am writing to learn more about actions by Network Solutions
Incorporated ("NSI") to introduce a new Internet directory. This new
directory -- cal
Richard wrote, tho Im really responding to Ben and the
Berkmanites:
> I've been trying to emulate the f2f group/association meting
> in cyberspace for about 15 years. What I notice is, the physical
> presence is vitally important. When people are disconnected
> from that they say awful things
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