Re: [IFWP] accounting

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
Ellen and Jeff, This might work Jeff, but I doubt it. The information that you seek is available thru a FOIA sent to the house Commerce Commission you might want to address it directly to Tom Bliley. I am CC'ing this post to him and Andrew for advance notice... Ellen Rony wrote: > Jeff Maso

Re: [IFWP] accounting

1999-08-20 Thread Ellen Rony
Jeff Mason wrote: >once again I ask for accounting details > >Who are resposible for the budget details on the ICANN site. Who are the >accountants who have developed these proforma financials. The website says Andrew McLaughlin is Interim Treasurer and CFO. Write directly to him. Perhaps he

[IFWP] new host count numbers

1999-08-20 Thread Richard J. Sexton
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Re: [IFWP] accounting

1999-08-20 Thread Planet Communications Computing Facility
On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Gordon Cook wrote: > > my understanding is that estee has a friend at ogilvie who agreed to > lend ogilvies services at a greatly reduced rateseems that > ogilvie thought the prestiege of being the firm that sold the net > down the river was too much for ogilvie to p

[IFWP] Re: accounting

1999-08-20 Thread William X. Walsh
Friday, August 20, 1999, 5:12:15 PM, Planet Communications Computing Facility <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > once again I ask for accounting details > Who are resposible for the budget details on the ICANN site. Who are the > accountants who have developed these proforma financials. > What is t

Re: [IFWP] accounting

1999-08-20 Thread Gordon Cook
my understanding is that estee has a friend at ogilvie who agreed to lend ogilvies services at a greatly reduced rateseems that ogilvie thought the prestiege of being the firm that sold the net down the river was too much for ogilvie to pass up. >once again I ask for accounting detail

[IFWP] Re: WG C, Questions 2-4

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
Chicoine and all, I vote for option 4 with the following suggested amendment: Resolved, that ICANN should allow the membership and/or the DNSO GA make this determination by majority vote post haste. That all alternative existing gTLD's be added that are not currently in conflict or a clear det

[IFWP] accounting

1999-08-20 Thread Planet Communications Computing Facility
once again I ask for accounting details Who are resposible for the budget details on the ICANN site. Who are the accountants who have developed these proforma financials. What is the budgeted amount for the public relations firm and can someone post accounting details to your budgets, the amoun

Re[2]: [IFWP] Rumor or Fact? NSI Teams Up with Doubleclick to sell Ad Space on Whois

1999-08-20 Thread William X. Walsh
Friday, August 20, 1999, 5:09:08 PM, Richard J. Sexton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How is this different from, say, regisetr.com having > ads on their whois ? > Isn't every *registrar* able to do what they want > with their whois ? The *registry* has no public interface > and I don't see any ad

Re: [IFWP] Rumor or Fact? NSI Teams Up with Doubleclick to sell Ad Space on Whois

1999-08-20 Thread Richard J. Sexton
How is this different from, say, regisetr.com having ads on their whois ? Isn't every *registrar* able to do what they want with their whois ? The *registry* has no public interface and I don't see any ads from say dig foo.com any @a.root-servers.com -- This program posts news to thous

[IFWP] Rumor or Fact? NSI Teams Up with Doubleclick to sell Ad Space on Whois

1999-08-20 Thread William X. Walsh
http://www.dnspolicy.com/article.pl?sid=99/08/20/1643201 DNSPolicy.com is leading with this story this evening. Still awaiting a response from NSI, and Doubleclick has issued a "no comment" response, but their PR Director did say she would get back toMonday. I had enough that I felt comfort

Re: [IFWP] IDNO letter

1999-08-20 Thread Michael Sondow
Esther Dyson wrote: > > Dear Joop and colleagues - > > I'm writing to respond personally to your proposal for an Individual Domain > Name Holders' Constituency. Thank you, Oh Great Queen of the Internet. > As you know, the Initial Board decided not to > consider it in Berlin because it was not

Re: [IFWP] Is the gTLD Workgroup outcome already decided b y the CORE faction?

1999-08-20 Thread Michael Sondow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I don't see the threat that can be put over CORE by USG, if CORE was based > in the US (other than political pressure, of course). CORE is a conspiracy, illegally incorporated, that has broken every section of the Sherman and the Federal Trade Commission Acts. It is

Re: [IFWP] Bliley correspondence

1999-08-20 Thread Michael Sondow
Bill Lovell wrote: > > Any > person can go to any government agency at any time and complain, freak > out, kiss butt, or whatever, at any time he/she/it/they want(s) to. To emulate your colorful language, you're full of it. Interfering with investigations, whether it be to influence the prosecut

Re: [IFWP] MCI and Cisco bail out ICANN

1999-08-20 Thread Mark C. Langston
On 20 August 1999, "William X. Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >http://www.dnspolicy.com/news/99/08/20/1439239.shtml > >$650,000 in loans, as part of a $2M target sum ICANN is seeking to >enable it to start paying the bills. > >Perhaps as Interim President, Mike Roberts should waive his salar

[IFWP] MCI and Cisco bail out ICANN

1999-08-20 Thread William X. Walsh
http://www.dnspolicy.com/news/99/08/20/1439239.shtml $650,000 in loans, as part of a $2M target sum ICANN is seeking to enable it to start paying the bills. Perhaps as Interim President, Mike Roberts should waive his salary for one year, that alone would give ICANN over half of what it is seekin

[IFWP] NSI and Interliant team up comments....

1999-08-20 Thread William X. Walsh
From: http://www.dnspolicy.com/news/99/08/20/1145221.shtml NSI and Interliant team up (Score:1) by Mitch on Friday August 20, @01:11PM (User Info) I don't see any indication of money exchanging hands, yet NSI is going to give Interliant "preferred handling"? They've been raking in millions

Re: Esther Dyson on Electronic Voting (was: [IFWP] The ICANN Ruckus)

1999-08-20 Thread Richard J. Sexton
>Ken is not the only one opposed to >measuring consensus: > > >Esther Dyson wrote: > http://www.ibm.com/services/newmark/mature.html >> Indeed, I am not so sure we should welcome the opportunity for >> electronic voting. That would make it easier for the elite to vote, and >> further disenfranch

[IFWP] BOUNCE list@ifwp.org: Non-member submission from [spotlight special ]

1999-08-20 Thread Richard J. Sexton
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Re: [IFWP] IDNO letter - Questions deserve and answer...[Attention Esther Dyson]

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
Professor Froomkin and all, Excellent questions here Professor, and ones that deserve a direct and definitive answers. How about it Esther? Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law wrote: > Might one ask who made this agenda-setting decision, and when? > > On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Esther Dyson w

Re[2]: [IFWP] IDNO letter

1999-08-20 Thread William X. Walsh
Friday, August 20, 1999, 11:56:26 AM, Bret A. Fausett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Esther Dyson wrote: >>Second, I am more concerned that the voices and interests of individuals be >>*represented* in the work of the DNSO, than with precisely how that happens. > Another avenue for individual dom

[IFWP] Re: non-commercial outreach effort

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
Laura and all, Great idea! Might I make a few suggestions to get things started out on the right foot or moving if a positive productive direction. 1.) Clean up the membership of the NCDNHC. Insure that all members of the NCDNHC are indeed NON-COMMERCIAL or otherwise do not eng

Re: [IFWP] IDNO letter

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
Bret and all, Bret A. Fausett wrote: > Esther Dyson wrote: > > >Second, I am more concerned that the voices and interests of individuals be > >*represented* in the work of the DNSO, than with precisely how that happens. > > Another avenue for individual domain name holders to let their interests

Re: [IFWP] NSI pens deal to promote services of Web Hosting company

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
William and all, I would agree that it is long past time for new gTLD's and Registries to be added ore otherwise incorporated into the existing structure. But I can't blame NSI for taking the business initiative here in their own interest and the interests of their customers William X. Wal

Re: [IFWP] IDNO letter

1999-08-20 Thread Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law
Might one ask who made this agenda-setting decision, and when? On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Esther Dyson wrote: > Dear Joop and colleagues - > > I'm writing to respond personally to your proposal for an Individual Domain > Name Holders' Constituency. As you know, the Initial Board decided not to > co

Re: [IFWP] IDNO letter - Excuses...

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
Esther and all, Nice try Esther, but no cigar, as they say! >;) Excellent political posturing, but lacks sufficient substance, and is therefore your *Reasons* are more in line with *Excuses*, and I have no doubt that they will be viewed as such, by in large. Esther Dyson wrote: > Dear Joop

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson on Media Bias - Again...

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
Esther and all,   No Esther, you read again: "Net was nowhere in the recent elections. (In the United States, at  least, political operatives are using the Net effectively for organizing; in the East, the Net is for academics and business people; the political establishment has not yet caught on.

Re: [IFWP] IDNO letter

1999-08-20 Thread Bret A. Fausett
Esther Dyson wrote: >Second, I am more concerned that the voices and interests of individuals be >*represented* in the work of the DNSO, than with precisely how that happens. Another avenue for individual domain name holders to let their interests be known would have been through participation

Re: [IFWP] Re: ICANN Ruckus

1999-08-20 Thread Ellen Rony
>> >> Throughout this debate over Internet Governance, >> there has consistently been two very different and >> distinct perspectives. >> >> One looked at the transition of authority from IANA >> to ICANN as a purely technical matter, one that should >> remain under the control of a technocracy. >

[IFWP] NSI pens deal to promote services of Web Hosting company

1999-08-20 Thread William X. Walsh
http://www.dnspolicy.com/news/99/08/20/1145221.shtml This is absolutely insane. NSI will now be actively promoting the services of this web hosting service to its domain registrants. This is an absolute abuse of their position and trust. ISPs need to let NSI know how they feel. It is time for

Re: [IFWP] IDNO letter

1999-08-20 Thread Mark C. Langston
On 20 August 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Esther Dyson) wrote: > >Second, I am more concerned that the voices and interests of individuals be >*represented* in the work of the DNSO, than with precisely how that happens. >Although the process is certainly messy, the concerns of individuals and >indivi

[IFWP] IDNO letter

1999-08-20 Thread Esther Dyson
Dear Joop and colleagues - I'm writing to respond personally to your proposal for an Individual Domain Name Holders' Constituency. As you know, the Initial Board decided not to consider it in Berlin because it was not among the seven constituencies we hoped to see form to constitute the full DNS

[IFWP] NSI strikes deal for multilingual and regional marketing deal

1999-08-20 Thread William X. Walsh
http://www.dnspolicy.com/article.pl?sid=99/08/20/1132206 Orientation.com will act as a distributor for NSI, supplying multilingual content, etc. Orientation.com operates many regionally specific and multilingual portals. Interesting to see NSI positioning itself globally in advance of facing re

Esther Dyson on Electronic Voting (was: [IFWP] The ICANN Ruckus)

1999-08-20 Thread Jay Fenello
At 02:18 PM 8/19/99 , Jay Fenello wrote: >At 01:56 PM 8/19/99 , Kent Crispin wrote: >>> By all appearances, these two sides have been equally matched, >>> with approximately the same number of people supporting each >>> of these positions. >>> >>> Yet, over time, the technocracy has come to dom

[IFWP] ICANN : "We are not broke"

1999-08-20 Thread William X. Walsh
http://www.dnspolicy.com/article.pl?sid=99/08/20/1120220 "We are not presently broke and all we have done with the White House people is the same as we have done with everyone else," said Joe Sims, an ICANN attorney. -- William X. Walsh - DSo Internet Services Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax:(20

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson on Media Bias

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
Tony and all, ROFLMAO! You got it just about right! And exercise in self aggrandizement... A.M. Rutkowski wrote: > Hi Jay, > > >Excerpts from the essay at: > > These same things could be said about every > significant communications medium development > that has ever occurred. > > Perhaps t

[IFWP] Re: [ga] What did Magaziner envision as the source of ICANN funding?

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
Martin and all, Thank you for the pointer. Interesting article indeed. The most interesting part was the part that is missing. That being that the house commerce commission is still investigating ICANN and most specifically with respect to funding, as in a funding model. ICANN still doesn'

[IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson on Media Bias

1999-08-20 Thread Esther Dyson
No, quite the contrary. Read again: >Fundamentally, the Net is a better tool for grassroots organizing or >> conspiracy than it is for far-reaching propaganda. It is a medium >> wherein people can find each other and then communicate. At 01:41 pm 08/20/1999 -0400, spotlight special wrote:

Re: [IFWP] Esther Dyson on Media Bias

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
Jay and all,   Nice reference Jay!  >;)  Yes, I do see your point.  It seems to me anyway that Esther Dyson does have some understanding of media bias given the Excerpt that you provided.  This is one of several keys that I have noticed of insights into here alliances and prevailing attitudes or

[IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson on Media Bias

1999-08-20 Thread A.M. Rutkowski
Hi Jay, >Excerpts from the essay at: These same things could be said about every significant communications medium development that has ever occurred. Perhaps the essay could be compressed down to a single crisp nugget: "Esther is the message." :-) --tony

Re: [IFWP] Esther Dyson on Media Bias

1999-08-20 Thread Brian C. Hollingsworth
Mr. Fenello and Everyone, I does appear the Ms. Dyson has a rudimentary understanding of media bias. The excerpt that you chose was interesting in that it contains some very inaccurate statements of obvious note. Jay Fenello wrote: > Excerpts from the essay at: >http://www.ibm.com/service

[IFWP] Esther Dyson on Media Bias

1999-08-20 Thread Jay Fenello
Excerpts from the essay at: http://www.ibm.com/services/newmark/mature.html > Toward A More Mature Internet > By Esther Dyson > > > FRAMING THE BIG PICTURE > > After the facts, what you need to cover is the meaning of all this. > Specifically, how

[IFWP] [Fwd: Document Action: A Memorandum of Understanding for an ICANNProtocol Support Organization to Informational]

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
FYI -- Jeffrey A. Williams Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!) CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Number: 972-447-1894 Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208 The I

RE: Re[2]: [IFWP] Is the gTLD Workgroup outcome already decided by the CORE faction?

1999-08-20 Thread R . Gaetano
WIlliam X. Walsh wrote: > > CORE is lucky it is not a US based corporation at the moment. Its > actions are getting very close to that line. > Why? CORE Registrars based in the US, for instance, are individually responsible for the information they provide on their Web site. I don't see the t

Re: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICANN-Santiago Remote Participation

1999-08-20 Thread Mark C. Langston
On 5 August 1999, "Ben Edelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The Berkman Center for Internet and Society will webcast and facilitate >remote participation for the upcoming meetings of the Internet Corporation >for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN, ), which will >take place

[IFWP] Danke für Ihren CAN CAN with ICANN link!

1999-08-20 Thread Planet Communications Computing Facility
Well if it's not hats - it may as well be shirts. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:58:46 -0400 From: Planet Communications <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: Danke [iso-8859-1] für Ihren CAN CAN with ICANN link! ] (fwd)] Original Message ---

[IFWP] Re: More fraudulent claimes by William X Walsh's and/or John D. Goodspeed... To: Re: Brian Hollingsworth / Jeff Williams the evil twins....

1999-08-20 Thread Brian C. Hollingsworth
Jeff and Everyone, Jeff, can do. For your information I have recieved four posts that reference Mr. Goodspeed and eleven that reference Mr. Walsh today alone. I will forward them in the mourning. I have also sent them to the proper legal authorities in my home country as well. I am going to