[IFWP] More fraudulent claimes by William X Walsh's and/or John D. Goodspeed... To: Re: Brian Hollingsworth / Jeff Williams the evil twins....

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
William and all, If anybody has is getting tired of person's identifying themselves as William X Walsh's and John D. Goodspeed's continuos fraudulent, public libelous or slanderous statements, please contact me privately. All posts will be forwarded to the DOJ, FBI, and INTERPOL for further

[IFWP] Re: More fraudulent claimes by William X Walsh's and/or John D. Goodspeed... To: Re: Brian Hollingsworth / Jeff Williams the evil twins....

1999-08-20 Thread Brian C. Hollingsworth
Jeff and Everyone, Jeff, can do. For your information I have recieved four posts that reference Mr. Goodspeed and eleven that reference Mr. Walsh today alone. I will forward them in the mourning. I have also sent them to the proper legal authorities in my home country as well. I am going

[IFWP] Danke für Ihren CAN CAN with ICANN link!

1999-08-20 Thread Planet Communications Computing Facility
Well if it's not hats - it may as well be shirts. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:58:46 -0400 From: Planet Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: Danke [iso-8859-1] für Ihren CAN CAN with ICANN link! ] (fwd)] Original Message

Re: [IFWP] ANNOUNCE: ICANN-Santiago Remote Participation

1999-08-20 Thread Mark C. Langston
On 5 August 1999, "Ben Edelman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Berkman Center for Internet and Society will webcast and facilitate remote participation for the upcoming meetings of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN, http://www.icann.org), which will take place in

[IFWP] [Fwd: Document Action: A Memorandum of Understanding for an ICANNProtocol Support Organization to Informational]

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
FYI -- Jeffrey A. Williams Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!) CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Number: 972-447-1894 Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208 The

[IFWP] Esther Dyson on Media Bias

1999-08-20 Thread Jay Fenello
Excerpts from the essay at: http://www.ibm.com/services/newmark/mature.html Toward A More Mature Internet By Esther Dyson big snip FRAMING THE BIG PICTURE After the facts, what you need to cover is the meaning of all this. Specifically, how

Re: [IFWP] Esther Dyson on Media Bias

1999-08-20 Thread Brian C. Hollingsworth
Mr. Fenello and Everyone, I does appear the Ms. Dyson has a rudimentary understanding of media bias. The excerpt that you chose was interesting in that it contains some very inaccurate statements of obvious note. Jay Fenello wrote: Excerpts from the essay at:

[IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson on Media Bias

1999-08-20 Thread A.M. Rutkowski
Hi Jay, Excerpts from the essay at: These same things could be said about every significant communications medium development that has ever occurred. Perhaps the essay could be compressed down to a single crisp nugget: "Esther is the message." :-) --tony

[IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson on Media Bias

1999-08-20 Thread Esther Dyson
No, quite the contrary. Read again: Fundamentally, the Net is a better tool for grassroots organizing or conspiracy than it is for far-reaching propaganda. It is a medium wherein people can find each other and then communicate. At 01:41 pm 08/20/1999 -0400, spotlight special wrote:

[IFWP] Re: [ga] What did Magaziner envision as the source of ICANN funding?

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
Martin and all, Thank you for the pointer. Interesting article indeed. The most interesting part was the part that is missing. That being that the house commerce commission is still investigating ICANN and most specifically with respect to funding, as in a funding model. ICANN still

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson on Media Bias

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
Tony and all, ROFLMAO! You got it just about right! And exercise in self aggrandizement... A.M. Rutkowski wrote: Hi Jay, Excerpts from the essay at: These same things could be said about every significant communications medium development that has ever occurred. Perhaps the essay

[IFWP] ICANN : We are not broke

1999-08-20 Thread William X. Walsh
http://www.dnspolicy.com/article.pl?sid=99/08/20/1120220 Quote "We are not presently broke and all we have done with the White House people is the same as we have done with everyone else," said Joe Sims, an ICANN attorney. /Quote -- William X. Walsh - DSo Internet Services Email: [EMAIL

Esther Dyson on Electronic Voting (was: [IFWP] The ICANN Ruckus)

1999-08-20 Thread Jay Fenello
At 02:18 PM 8/19/99 , Jay Fenello wrote: At 01:56 PM 8/19/99 , Kent Crispin wrote: By all appearances, these two sides have been equally matched, with approximately the same number of people supporting each of these positions. Yet, over time, the technocracy has come to dominate ICANN.

[IFWP] NSI strikes deal for multilingual and regional marketing deal

1999-08-20 Thread William X. Walsh
http://www.dnspolicy.com/article.pl?sid=99/08/20/1132206 Orientation.com will act as a distributor for NSI, supplying multilingual content, etc. Orientation.com operates many regionally specific and multilingual portals. Interesting to see NSI positioning itself globally in advance of facing

[IFWP] IDNO letter

1999-08-20 Thread Esther Dyson
Dear Joop and colleagues - I'm writing to respond personally to your proposal for an Individual Domain Name Holders' Constituency. As you know, the Initial Board decided not to consider it in Berlin because it was not among the seven constituencies we hoped to see form to constitute the full

Re: [IFWP] IDNO letter

1999-08-20 Thread Mark C. Langston
On 20 August 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Esther Dyson) wrote: Second, I am more concerned that the voices and interests of individuals be *represented* in the work of the DNSO, than with precisely how that happens. Although the process is certainly messy, the concerns of individuals and

[IFWP] NSI pens deal to promote services of Web Hosting company

1999-08-20 Thread William X. Walsh
http://www.dnspolicy.com/news/99/08/20/1145221.shtml This is absolutely insane. NSI will now be actively promoting the services of this web hosting service to its domain registrants. This is an absolute abuse of their position and trust. ISPs need to let NSI know how they feel. It is time

Re: [IFWP] Re: ICANN Ruckus

1999-08-20 Thread Ellen Rony
Throughout this debate over Internet Governance, there has consistently been two very different and distinct perspectives. One looked at the transition of authority from IANA to ICANN as a purely technical matter, one that should remain under the control of a technocracy. ... The other

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson on Media Bias - Again...

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
Esther and all, No Esther, you read again: "Net was nowhere in the recent elections. (In the United States, at least, political operatives are using the Net effectively for organizing; in the East, the Net is for academics and business people; the political establishment has not yet caught

Re: [IFWP] IDNO letter - Excuses...

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
Esther and all, Nice try Esther, but no cigar, as they say! ;) Excellent political posturing, but lacks sufficient substance, and is therefore your *Reasons* are more in line with *Excuses*, and I have no doubt that they will be viewed as such, by in large. Esther Dyson wrote: Dear Joop

Re: [IFWP] IDNO letter

1999-08-20 Thread Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law
Might one ask who made this agenda-setting decision, and when? On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Esther Dyson wrote: Dear Joop and colleagues - I'm writing to respond personally to your proposal for an Individual Domain Name Holders' Constituency. As you know, the Initial Board decided not to

Re: [IFWP] NSI pens deal to promote services of Web Hosting company

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
William and all, I would agree that it is long past time for new gTLD's and Registries to be added ore otherwise incorporated into the existing structure. But I can't blame NSI for taking the business initiative here in their own interest and the interests of their customers William X.

Re: [IFWP] IDNO letter

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
Bret and all, Bret A. Fausett wrote: Esther Dyson wrote: Second, I am more concerned that the voices and interests of individuals be *represented* in the work of the DNSO, than with precisely how that happens. Another avenue for individual domain name holders to let their interests be

[IFWP] Re: non-commercial outreach effort

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
Laura and all, Great idea! Might I make a few suggestions to get things started out on the right foot or moving if a positive productive direction. 1.) Clean up the membership of the NCDNHC. Insure that all members of the NCDNHC are indeed NON-COMMERCIAL or otherwise do not

Re[2]: [IFWP] IDNO letter

1999-08-20 Thread William X. Walsh
Friday, August 20, 1999, 11:56:26 AM, Bret A. Fausett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Esther Dyson wrote: Second, I am more concerned that the voices and interests of individuals be *represented* in the work of the DNSO, than with precisely how that happens. Another avenue for individual domain

Re: [IFWP] IDNO letter - Questions deserve and answer...[Attention Esther Dyson]

1999-08-20 Thread Jeff Williams
Professor Froomkin and all, Excellent questions here Professor, and ones that deserve a direct and definitive answers. How about it Esther? Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law wrote: Might one ask who made this agenda-setting decision, and when? On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Esther Dyson

[IFWP] BOUNCE list@ifwp.org: Non-member submission from [spotlight special libertylobby@earthlink.net]

1999-08-20 Thread Richard J. Sexton
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BOUNCE [EMAIL PROTECTED]:Non-member submission from [spotlight special [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:55:17 -0400 (EDT) From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 20

Re: Esther Dyson on Electronic Voting (was: [IFWP] The ICANN Ruckus)

1999-08-20 Thread Richard J. Sexton
Ken is not the only one opposed to measuring consensus: Esther Dyson wrote: http://www.ibm.com/services/newmark/mature.html Indeed, I am not so sure we should welcome the opportunity for electronic voting. That would make it easier for the elite to vote, and further disenfranchise those

[IFWP] NSI and Interliant team up comments....

1999-08-20 Thread William X. Walsh
From: http://www.dnspolicy.com/news/99/08/20/1145221.shtml NSI and Interliant team up (Score:1) by Mitch on Friday August 20, @01:11PM (User Info) I don't see any indication of money exchanging hands, yet NSI is going to give Interliant "preferred handling"? They've been raking in millions

[IFWP] MCI and Cisco bail out ICANN

1999-08-20 Thread William X. Walsh
http://www.dnspolicy.com/news/99/08/20/1439239.shtml $650,000 in loans, as part of a $2M target sum ICANN is seeking to enable it to start paying the bills. Perhaps as Interim President, Mike Roberts should waive his salary for one year, that alone would give ICANN over half of what it is

Re: [IFWP] MCI and Cisco bail out ICANN

1999-08-20 Thread Mark C. Langston
On 20 August 1999, "William X. Walsh" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.dnspolicy.com/news/99/08/20/1439239.shtml $650,000 in loans, as part of a $2M target sum ICANN is seeking to enable it to start paying the bills. Perhaps as Interim President, Mike Roberts should waive his salary for

Re: [IFWP] Bliley correspondence

1999-08-20 Thread Michael Sondow
Bill Lovell wrote: Any person can go to any government agency at any time and complain, freak out, kiss butt, or whatever, at any time he/she/it/they want(s) to. To emulate your colorful language, you're full of it. Interfering with investigations, whether it be to influence the

Re: [IFWP] Is the gTLD Workgroup outcome already decided b y the CORE faction?

1999-08-20 Thread Michael Sondow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see the threat that can be put over CORE by USG, if CORE was based in the US (other than political pressure, of course). CORE is a conspiracy, illegally incorporated, that has broken every section of the Sherman and the Federal Trade Commission Acts. It is

Re: [IFWP] IDNO letter

1999-08-20 Thread Michael Sondow
Esther Dyson wrote: Dear Joop and colleagues - I'm writing to respond personally to your proposal for an Individual Domain Name Holders' Constituency. Thank you, Oh Great Queen of the Internet. As you know, the Initial Board decided not to consider it in Berlin because it was not among

[IFWP] Rumor or Fact? NSI Teams Up with Doubleclick to sell Ad Space on Whois

1999-08-20 Thread William X. Walsh
http://www.dnspolicy.com/article.pl?sid=99/08/20/1643201 DNSPolicy.com is leading with this story this evening. Still awaiting a response from NSI, and Doubleclick has issued a "no comment" response, but their PR Director did say she would get back toMonday. I had enough that I felt

Re: [IFWP] Rumor or Fact? NSI Teams Up with Doubleclick to sell Ad Space on Whois

1999-08-20 Thread Richard J. Sexton
How is this different from, say, regisetr.com having ads on their whois ? Isn't every *registrar* able to do what they want with their whois ? The *registry* has no public interface and I don't see any ads from say dig foo.com any @a.root-servers.com -- This program posts news to

Re[2]: [IFWP] Rumor or Fact? NSI Teams Up with Doubleclick to sell Ad Space on Whois

1999-08-20 Thread William X. Walsh
Friday, August 20, 1999, 5:09:08 PM, Richard J. Sexton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How is this different from, say, regisetr.com having ads on their whois ? Isn't every *registrar* able to do what they want with their whois ? The *registry* has no public interface and I don't see any ads from

[IFWP] accounting

1999-08-20 Thread Planet Communications Computing Facility
once again I ask for accounting details Who are resposible for the budget details on the ICANN site. Who are the accountants who have developed these proforma financials. What is the budgeted amount for the public relations firm and can someone post accounting details to your budgets, the

Re: [IFWP] accounting

1999-08-20 Thread Gordon Cook
my understanding is that estee has a friend at ogilvie who agreed to lend ogilvies services at a greatly reduced rateseems that ogilvie thought the prestiege of being the firm that sold the net down the river was too much for ogilvie to pass up. once again I ask for accounting

Re: [IFWP] accounting

1999-08-20 Thread Planet Communications Computing Facility
On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Gordon Cook wrote: my understanding is that estee has a friend at ogilvie who agreed to lend ogilvies services at a greatly reduced rateseems that ogilvie thought the prestiege of being the firm that sold the net down the river was too much for ogilvie to pass