Re: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-24 Thread Brian C. Hollingsworth
Mr. Walsh and Everyone, I had no problem with finding them give a little time and effort. William X. Walsh wrote: Saturday, August 21, 1999, 8:13:14 PM, Jeff Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William and all, William X. Walsh wrote: Saturday, August 21, 1999, 7:47:32 PM, Jeff

Re: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-24 Thread Brian C. Hollingsworth
Mr. Walsh and Everyone, How many times do you need to see the same emails, Mr. Walsh? William X. Walsh wrote: Saturday, August 21, 1999, 7:47:32 PM, Jeff Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William and all, I am afraid I don't agree with William's evaluation of the Berkman Centers

Re: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-24 Thread Brian C. Hollingsworth
Mr. Walsh and Everyone, It is evident to me, and I suspect most reasonable people, that if a criticism is levied that is a reasonable, that it would be best to address it directly so as to correct the problem concerned. William X. Walsh wrote: Sunday, August 22, 1999, 3:50:48 AM, Planet

RE: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-23 Thread R . Gaetano
Jeff Mason wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Ben Edelman wrote: I must say, I think these fields are exceptionally reasonable -- each justified for a legitimate logistical reason, with privacy policies clearly stated on the sign-in form itself. Nonetheless, if there are

Re: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-23 Thread Jeff Williams
Roberto and all, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Mason wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Ben Edelman wrote: I must say, I think these fields are exceptionally reasonable -- each justified for a legitimate logistical reason, with privacy policies clearly stated on the sign-in form

RE: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-23 Thread Planet Communications Computing Facility
If ICANN wants to play - it needs the same privacy controls as exsist in the us government. Regards Jeff Mason -- Planet Communication Computing Facility [EMAIL PROTECTED] Public Access Internet Research Publisher 1 (212) 894-3704 ext. 1033 On Mon, 23 Aug 1999 [EMAIL

Re[2]: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-23 Thread William X. Walsh
Monday, August 23, 1999, 4:35:49 AM, Planet Communications Computing Facility [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If ICANN wants to play - it needs the same privacy controls as exsist in the us government. As was already pointed out numerous times, there is amble evidence that no applicable provisions

Re: Re[2]: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-23 Thread Planet Communications Computing Facility
The existence or non existence of a provision and it's application is not relevant here. What is at issue is the right to incorporate privacy law into icann at an oportune time - NOW. On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, William X. Walsh wrote: Monday, August 23, 1999, 4:35:49 AM, Planet Communications

Re: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-23 Thread Jeff Williams
William and all, William, I am sure that repeating the same thing over and over again does get boring. And doing so also doesn't make it true either. You have yet to state difinitively or site any particular creditable evidence for your stance here... William X. Walsh wrote: Monday,

Re: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-23 Thread Jeff Williams
JeffM and all, Completely agreed. In fact NOW is really a bit late in the game, as ICANN in it's "Accreditation Policy" is already in violation of the Privacy Act, and the 1996 Telecommunication's act, it may also be in violation of the Credit Protection act, as well as the Sherman act...

Re: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-23 Thread Jeff Williams
William and all, William X. Walsh wrote: Monday, August 23, 1999, 4:43:57 AM, Planet Communications Computing Facility [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The existence or non existence of a provision and it's application is not relevant here. What is at issue is the right to incorporate privacy

[IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-22 Thread William X. Walsh
Sunday, August 22, 1999, 3:04:17 AM, Planet Communications Computing Facility [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: The information posted here respects ICANN policies on real video transmissions. Were inviting individuals to contact us privately if they should have any concerns respecting the

Re: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-22 Thread Planet Communications Computing Facility
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, William X. Walsh wrote: http://www.pccf.net/correspondence/icann/19990819-edelman-icann.html We must be careful not to criticize, or imply criticism solely for the purpose of criticizing, or finding every little detail to criticize, and instead ask ourselves if a

Re: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-22 Thread Jeff Williams
William and all, I am afraid I don't agree with William's evaluation of the Berkman Centers performance Why? Well it is a documented FACT that the Berkman Center has had several opportunities for CNN, TBA/TNT and others, which have offered coverage and INternet IP Video conferencing for

Re[2]: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-22 Thread William X. Walsh
Sunday, August 22, 1999, 3:24:50 AM, Planet Communications Computing Facility [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, William X. Walsh wrote: http://www.pccf.net/correspondence/icann/19990819-edelman-icann.html We must be careful not to criticize, or imply criticism solely for the

Re[2]: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-22 Thread William X. Walsh
Saturday, August 21, 1999, 7:47:32 PM, Jeff Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William and all, I am afraid I don't agree with William's evaluation of the Berkman Centers performance Why? Well it is a documented FACT that the Berkman Center has had several opportunities for CNN,

Re: Re[2]: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-22 Thread Planet Communications Computing Facility
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, William X. Walsh wrote: I think your way ahead of us here been. Were not there yet - i.e. protest. As I have said before we have no protest at this time. Were just gathering opinion, and thank you for your support of the policy stated. My response was not

Re: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-22 Thread Jeff Williams
William and all, William X. Walsh wrote: Saturday, August 21, 1999, 7:47:32 PM, Jeff Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William and all, I am afraid I don't agree with William's evaluation of the Berkman Centers performance Why? Well it is a documented FACT that the Berkman

Re: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-22 Thread Jeff Williams
Jeff and all, No, William doesn't understand anything about privacy, NGO's or the implications as he believes he has the right to have any and all information on anyone that he pleases. And when he doesn't get what he wants he manufactures it... Planet Communications Computing Facility

Re[4]: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-22 Thread William X. Walsh
Sunday, August 22, 1999, 3:50:48 AM, Planet Communications Computing Facility [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, William X. Walsh wrote: I think your way ahead of us here been. Were not there yet - i.e. protest. As I have said before we have no protest at this time. Were

Re[2]: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-22 Thread William X. Walsh
Saturday, August 21, 1999, 8:13:14 PM, Jeff Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William and all, William X. Walsh wrote: Saturday, August 21, 1999, 7:47:32 PM, Jeff Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William and all, I am afraid I don't agree with William's evaluation of the Berkman

Re: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-22 Thread Jeff Williams
William and all, To lazy to do your homework, eh? That sounds familiar coming form you william... What a shame! Now, Who is the fraud? To wit, a blast, again from the past... === Copy of WIlliam's past employer == Subject: Is this really true about William Walsch

Re: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-22 Thread Jeff Williams
Jeff and all, ROFLMAO! Touché! Planet Communications Computing Facility wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, William X. Walsh wrote: What I understand is when I see a criticism being made for the sake of having one more thing to criticize, rather than focusing on the substance of the issues.

Re: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-22 Thread Jeff Williams
Jeff and all, Agreed! It should be noted that it doesn't seem that the ICANN (Initial?) Interim Board is very concerned about privacy issues, given the terms of their "Accreditation Policy" and the interesting post from Ben Edelman you properly provided regarding the methods that the Berkman

Re[2]: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-22 Thread William X. Walsh
Saturday, August 21, 1999, 8:53:33 PM, Jeff Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William and all, To lazy to do your homework, eh? That sounds familiar coming form you william... What a shame! Now, Who is the fraud? To wit, a blast, again from the past... === Copy of

Re: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-22 Thread Ben Edelman
Planet Communications Computing Facility [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Privacy is a very important issue - on the net, to the consumer, and to government organizations in the free world. I certainly wouldn't disagree! But I think some clarification is in order; perhaps you overestimate the

Re: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-22 Thread Planet Communications Computing Facility
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Ben Edelman wrote: I must say, I think these fields are exceptionally reasonable -- each justified for a legitimate logistical reason, with privacy policies clearly stated on the sign-in form itself. Nonetheless, if there are counterarguments re why the above should be

Re: [IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-22 Thread Jeff Williams
Jeff and all, Planet Communications Computing Facility wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Ben Edelman wrote: I must say, I think these fields are exceptionally reasonable -- each justified for a legitimate logistical reason, with privacy policies clearly stated on the sign-in form itself.

[IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] icann.edleman.19990819 / Access to ICANN Santiago real video feed (fwd)

1999-08-22 Thread Jeff Williams
Eileen and all, I agree with you Eileen, the ICANN is most likely not gathering personal information for nefarious purposes or commercial ones. That however is not really relevant under the law. eileen kent wrote: I think Edelman's logic holds up just fine. I also think that there are no