Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread pdcawley
Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 08:16:01PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kris Boulez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quoting David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 09:30:13AM -0400, Mz anathema wrote: Can anyone suggest a good way to

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Simon Wistow
Phillip Newton wrote@ Can anyone suggest a good way to recover a soup-soaked keyboard? Disconnect, soak in water to remove sticky stuff, leave to dry, reconnect? Isopropyl alcohol is your friend - mild solvent so it unsticks the sticky stuff - evaporates quickly and is electrically

Re: CFT / dim sum / evening meet

2001-10-25 Thread Leon Brocard
Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether: To celebrate Leon's imminent return to employment we shall be having a meeting of the CFT[2] club (which may be similar to Debauchery.pm) on Thursday. We shall meet for lunch at 1pm at the New world for Dim Sum, those of us with CFT

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Sue Spence
Dominic Mitchell wrote: anathema [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lucy McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What flavour soup was it? Noodle flavour. How can you have noodle flavour soup? Do noodles have a flavour? -Dom (typing in keyboard flavour) Rice, wheat, egg, spinach, tomato,

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Sue Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dominic Mitchell wrote: anathema [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lucy McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What flavour soup was it? Noodle flavour. How can you have noodle flavour soup? Do noodles have a flavour? -Dom (typing in keyboard

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Sue Spence
Dominic Mitchell wrote: Sue Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dominic Mitchell wrote: anathema [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lucy McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What flavour soup was it? Noodle flavour. How can you have noodle flavour soup? Do noodles have a

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Sue Spence
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 08:24:36PM +0100, Sue Spence wrote: My other half used to do desktop admin years ago and reports that people get all sorts of disgusting filth in their keyboards on a regular basis. Turn your own keyboard upside down and see what comes

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Newton, Philip
Sue Spence wrote: Turn your own keyboard upside down and see what comes out. :) Mostly eyelashes/eyebrow hairs and dead cells that might be dandruff. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Robin Houston
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 07:18:49PM -0400, anathema wrote: Does it stand up to soup? I loved my last keyboard, it's a pity that I've had to replace it. Didn't rinsing it work then? .robin. -- That would be a glorious life, to addict oneself to perfection; to follow the curve of the

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Redvers Davies
Isopropyl alcohol is your friend - mild solvent so it unsticks the sticky stuff - evaporates quickly and is electrically unconductive. Yes it is, and IBM hardware engineers carry it as standard. Funny story. I was working at an unnamed big[0] company where I was sysadmin of all their

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Nik Butler
My other half used to do desktop admin years ago and reports that people get all sorts of disgusting filth in their keyboards on a regular basis. Turn your own keyboard upside down and see what comes out. :) Oh god I just did that, now I dont want to finish my scambled eggs, cheer sue Regards

Game?

2001-10-25 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
How's the perl game going? I'm looking at a web-based turn-orieneted business game at the moment that might fit a model...

Re: Be afraid. Be very afraid.

2001-10-25 Thread Nick Cleaton
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 04:15:08PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: If anyone can think of a better (i.e. quicker) way to do it - even if it means having to relearn C - I'd love to know. Code snippets below. Bonus points for the subject line ;-) If you have enough swap and RAM, you could

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Jasper McCrea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I have spent a large 3 figure sum on a keyboard; my Maltron, which I pray will never suffer the ravages of soup; my fingers would never forgive me. I though I must have read this wrong, since I figured that a large three figure sum would be at least £600,

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Newton, Philip wrote: Sue Spence wrote: Turn your own keyboard upside down and see what comes out. :) Mostly eyelashes/eyebrow hairs and dead cells that might be dandruff. Especially if you're Ethan Hawke. L. An eyelash! How could you be so careless?

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Redvers Davies
solenoid thingy inside to improve the tactile feedback - I doubt if you could get one of those to work with a PC though That sounds like a good PIC/AMTEL project

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Sue Spence
Redvers Davies wrote: Yes it is, and IBM hardware engineers carry it as standard. Funny story. Cool, let's do funny work stories (or not). One of my favorites happened during my student days when I worked as a system admin for a civil engineering company which had spent a mint on an HP

on topic

2001-10-25 Thread Nicholas Clark
I fear I am not a true London perl monger. Or maybe just not stereotypical [Is anyone] The project manager near me has just asked when Buffy is on again [apparently she prefers Willow] and no-one here knows the answer. :-( Nicholas Clark

Re: on topic

2001-10-25 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 02:57:04PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: I fear I am not a true London perl monger. Or maybe just not stereotypical [Is anyone] The project manager near me has just asked when Buffy is on again [apparently she prefers Willow] and no-one here knows the answer. :-( When

sunday / saff london

2001-10-25 Thread Greg McCarroll
In case anyone else is interested, Dave Cantrell, my wife and I are going to Joannas (Nice Brasserie in Crystal Palace) for cocktails and sunday lunch and then back to my place to drink far too much gin. If anyone in saff london wants to pop along let me know, or even people from the evil lands

RE: sunday / saff london

2001-10-25 Thread Wilson, Andrew (Belfast)
-Original Message- From: Greg McCarroll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 3:14 PM p.s. i have double checked and it is nobody's birthday on sunday ;-) Not true, lots of people will be having a birthday on sunday. You may not be concerned about them, it

Re: on topic

2001-10-25 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 03:00:10PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: When I looked earlier teletext said it was on on bbc2 tonight. She wants the cable times. She's seen that one already, apparently. I think she intimated that her life is not complete without buffy. Nicholas Clark

Re: on topic

2001-10-25 Thread Steve Rushe
On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 04:07:28PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 03:00:10PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: When I looked earlier teletext said it was on on bbc2 tonight. She wants the cable times. She's seen that one already, apparently. I think she intimated

tech meet venue?

2001-10-25 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Is there a venue for the tech meeting yet?

Re: on topic

2001-10-25 Thread Andy Williams
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Nicholas Clark wrote: I fear I am not a true London perl monger. Or maybe just not stereotypical [Is anyone] The project manager near me has just asked when Buffy is on again [apparently she prefers Willow] and no-one here knows the answer. :-( Nicholas Clark If it's

Re: Game?

2001-10-25 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Dave Hodgkinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: How's the perl game going? I'm looking at a web-based turn-orieneted business game at the moment that might fit a model... we really need to set up a mailing list, i have a file somewhere with

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Chris Devers
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Tony Bowden wrote: OK ... now we all know how to clean keyboards, what about mice. Any good tips for keeping them clean? Or is it just every so often take out the ball and hoke around? Yes, that about covers it. Get the lint out of the spokes regularly (every feek

New Neighbours

2001-10-25 Thread Dave Cross
West Yorkshire Perl Users Group http://wypug.pm.org Please make thme welcome[1]. Dave... [1] This does _not_ mean take over their mailing list and fill it with Buffy talk[2]. [2] Please don't read that instruction as irony :) -- http://www.dave.org.uk Let me see you make decisions, without

Re: New Neighbours

2001-10-25 Thread Newton, Philip
Dave Cross wrote: West Yorkshire Perl Users Group http://wypug.pm.org One of the most spectacularly ugly websites I've ever seen, at least in Netscape 4.7x on Win32 without JS or CSS. Gigantic horizontal scrollbar, for one thing. And the HTML code is pretty icky, too (for example, a table

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Dave Cross
From: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/25/01 10:01:14 AM How can you have noodle flavour soup? Do noodles have a flavour? -Dom (typing in keyboard flavour) Cue some random Monty Python fan pointing out that _everything_ has a flavour. Dave... [wondering if you get wafers with

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread David H. Adler
On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 10:04:41AM -0700, Dave Cross wrote: From: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/25/01 10:01:14 AM How can you have noodle flavour soup? Do noodles have a flavour? -Dom (typing in keyboard flavour) Cue some random Monty Python fan pointing out that

Re: CFT / dim sum / evening meet

2001-10-25 Thread David H. Adler
On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 10:04:56AM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: ps Greg not gonna make it, grumble, grumble Hrmph. No one complains that *I'm* not going to make it... :-) -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Your question doesn't make any sense. You might as

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread anathema
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dha, objects to the term random Could have been anyone :) I mean, it's not like dha is the only person on the list who knows MP. Maybe not as *well*, but. -- http://www.the-anathema.org I like a woman with a head on her shoulders. I hate necks. - Steve

Re: New Neighbours

2001-10-25 Thread anathema
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the HTML code is pretty icky, too (for example, a table inside the head.../head portion of the document). Can you do that? I mean, what does it _mean_? You can do it, but it does nothing but crash browsers that aren't resilient to stupid

Re: New Neighbours

2001-10-25 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 06:59:08PM +0200, Newton, Philip wrote: Dave Cross wrote: West Yorkshire Perl Users Group http://wypug.pm.org One of the most spectacularly ugly websites I've ever seen, at least in Netscape 4.7x on Win32 without JS or CSS. Gigantic horizontal scrollbar, for one

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Dave Cross
On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 02:15:34PM -0400, David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 07:12:16PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 01:32:58PM -0400, David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 10:04:41AM -0700, Dave Cross wrote:

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread David H. Adler
On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 09:52:34PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 02:15:34PM -0400, David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 07:12:16PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 01:32:58PM -0400, David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 06:38:24PM +0100, Natalie Ford wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 09:24:23AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: Isopropyl alcohol is your friend - mild solvent so it unsticks the sticky stuff - evaporates quickly and is electrically unconductive. Isopropyl alcohol is also

[off-topic] Getopt::Declare problems

2001-10-25 Thread David Cantrell
I'm sorry for posting something off-topic, but I hope one of the Very Clever People here can help me. I'm having trouble with Getopt::Declare. If I have: my $args=new Getopt::Declare q( -delete url Delete url from watch list -d url [ditto] -md5

Re: [off-topic] Getopt::Declare problems

2001-10-25 Thread Damian Conway
I'm sorry for posting something off-topic, but I hope one of the Very Clever People here can help me. I'm having trouble with Getopt::Declare. Well, I'm not Very Clever, but I can probably help you with that. I get: Can't use string (-delete) as a HASH ref while strict

[off-topic] Multibyte perl on win32

2001-10-25 Thread Mike Jarvis
If people are actually going to discuss perl, I throw one out. I've got a vendor's version of perl (uhm, my company's so replacing it isn't an option) that I believe was compiled with some odd way of handling multibyte characters. And the guy who built it isn't around right now. Grr. Getting

Re: Classic Computer Books (Non-Perl)

2001-10-25 Thread Kirrily Robert
In lists.community.perlmongers.london, you wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 04:15:34PM -0400, Kirrily Robert wrote: (where else can you read about the (mis-)design of common objects like light switches and stovetops?) Do you mean the little diagrams telling you which ring you're turning on? I

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Other wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 25 euros I can promise you it won't be a decent keyboard. If it's not really heavy and made by someone who's licensed the IBM buckling spring patent then it's not worth having. (Unless it's a maltron...) Hear, hear! At the