Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 09:49:11PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
Ack, I mean't to say top 5 songs (damn)
Cheating, but I think more in terms of albums than songs...
%top_five_albums = {
Miles Davis= Kind of Blue,
Ooh yes. I only recently
* Jonathan Peterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Tony Bowden wrote:
I can understand that in terms of adding more skills, but adding length
of experience is strange. What would someone with 6 years experience
have over someone with 5? Or 4?
Funnily enough I think experience counts for
From: Barbie [home] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3) The Kiss, The Cure
An interesting choice - I was listening to this only last night actually on
my headphones quite loud, and it is truely an outstanding track - I even
contemplated getting an electric guitar just to see if I could get it to
distort like
On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 19:24, Chris Devers wrote:
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 09:49:11PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
Ack, I mean't to say top 5 songs (damn)
Cheating, but I think more in terms of albums than songs...
%top_five_albums = {
Miles Davis= Kind of Blue,
The
* at 07/01 10:04 - Robert Shiels said:
From: Barbie [home] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3) The Kiss, The Cure
An interesting choice - I was listening to this only last night actually on
my headphones quite loud, and it is truely an outstanding track - I even
contemplated getting an electric
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This employer has aimed high with 6 years experience, however I am
sure they are not going to turn away someone with 4 or 5 years of
really good experience.
You just have no idea, do you?
--
David Hodgkinson, Wizard for Hire
From: Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* at 07/01 10:04 - Robert Shiels said:
. Why are The Cure
overlooked as one of the top bands of the last 20 years...
i think it comes down to the general perception of them as goths and
hence not worth bothering about. and having had that label
From: Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* at 07/01 10:04 - Robert Shiels said:
From: Barbie [home] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3) The Kiss, The Cure
An interesting choice - I was listening to this only last night actually
on
my headphones quite loud, and it is truely
* Dave Hodgkinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This employer has aimed high with 6 years experience, however I am
sure they are not going to turn away someone with 4 or 5 years of
really good experience.
You just have no idea, do you?
It's ok
* Barbie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I should be careful here actually in case I incur the wrath of everyone for
starting DTG Greg off on another rant ;)
No chance, DTG is probably off doing something important today - like
being fitted for vampyre fangs. Or buying stripey tights. ;-)
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* Dave Hodgkinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This employer has aimed high with 6 years experience, however I am
sure they are not going to turn away someone with 4 or 5 years of
really good
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 09:49:11PM +, Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
* Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
So top 5 films for london.pm .. ;-)
Ack, I mean't to say top 5 songs (damn)
Oh, well in _that_ case:
1/ The Whole of the Moon - The Waterboys
2/ Catch -
* at 07/01 11:10 - Barbie said:
From: Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i think it comes down to the general perception of them as goths and
hence not worth bothering about. and having had that label attached
most people don't bother to look further.
snip
I find it strange they
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 11:39:35AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Barbie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I should be careful here actually in case I incur the wrath of everyone for
starting DTG Greg off on another rant ;)
No chance, DTG is probably off doing something important today - like
* Dave Thorn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
You never can tell with bees.
Bees? I'm confused now.
--
Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/
* at 07/01 12:12 + Greg McCarroll said:
* Dave Thorn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
You never can tell with bees.
Bees? I'm confused now.
stripey tights?
s
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Dave Thorn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
You never can tell with bees.
Bees? I'm confused now.
Stripy tights.
Anyway, stop it or I'll bash your heads together. It'll all end in tears
and a flamewar.
Later.
Mark.
(Who's having problems with perl
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Chris Devers wrote:
Cheating, but I think more in terms of albums than songs...
I'll only half cheat...
Dark Star - Lovelight from Grateful Dead - The Ark, Boston 69-04-22
Crossroads - Eric Clapton / Cream
Passion - Pat McGee Band
Two Step - Dave Matthew's Band
Houses of
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 12:12:17PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Dave Thorn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
You never can tell with bees.
Bees? I'm confused now.
For you are a Greg of very little brain.
--
dave thorn | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
out of date DNS and wu.ftpd are also a given. Worth portscanning any
servers you own for weird open ports...
Rather than portscanning yourself (and tripping off your own alarms
:-) it's much easier to just do netstat -an | grep -w LISTEN and
see what
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 12:23:35PM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
Rather than portscanning yourself (and tripping off your own alarms
:-) it's much easier to just do netstat -an | grep -w LISTEN and
see what is listening. You can trace back to the original process
using lsof(8)[1].
Or on
Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
out of date DNS and wu.ftpd are also a given. Worth portscanning any
servers you own for weird open ports...
Rather than portscanning yourself (and tripping off your own alarms
:-) it's much easier to
Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
out of date DNS and wu.ftpd are also a given. Worth portscanning any
servers you own for weird open ports...
Rather than portscanning yourself (and tripping off your own alarms
:-) it's much easier to
* Dave Thorn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
For you are a Greg of very little brain.
When you are a Greg of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you
sometimes find that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is
quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people
Lots of people listed lots of songs:
Glad to see london.pm have taste. But I think you should do even more of
as Rob Gordon and say where and why you'd place them in an autobiographical
ordering.
L.
Is it better to burn out or fade away.
Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Go further back up the thread. Check out what the rootkit mentioned
does. Then tell me why your proposition won't work.
Doh.
-Dom
--
| Semantico: creators of major online resources |
| URL: http://www.semantico.com/
From: Andy Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'Rammstien' = 'Ich Will',
Excellent choice, but Wollt ihr das Bett in Flammen sehen? does it for me,
although Asche zu Asche is a kicker live.
Barbie.
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 12:38:12PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 12:23:35PM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
Rather than portscanning yourself (and tripping off your own alarms
:-) it's much easier to just do netstat -an | grep -w LISTEN and
see what is listening.
Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
out of date DNS and wu.ftpd are also a given. Worth portscanning any
servers you own for weird open ports...
Rather than portscanning yourself (and
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 09:41:01AM +, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
Funnily enough I think experience counts for a lot in computer jobs.
It depends on what that experience is. And I'm not convinced that after
a couple of years, just having experience of a certain thing is that
relevant. To pick
The Grue and I are going, possibly other people.
Be there or be somewhere else.
Tony/aef
On 7 Jan 2002, Steve Mynott wrote:
If you have any indication of (2) the only thing to do is to check the
entire file tree against offline secure checksums (SHA1 prefered to
MD5) and reinstall from write only media.
A point and a question:
If the root kit uses a kernel module to hide
* at 07/01 14:18 + Robin said:
Steve Mynott wrote:
In short portscans are of very limited use to sysadmins.
hmmm .. whilst comparing a port scan from a known baseline doesn;t tell you
that badness hasn't happend .. if you find new ports open then thats an
indication that something
Kieran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 7 Jan 2002, Steve Mynott wrote:
If you have any indication of (2) the only thing to do is to check the
entire file tree against offline secure checksums (SHA1 prefered to
MD5) and reinstall from write only media.
A point and a question:
If the
Steve Mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Steve Mynott wrote:
In short portscans are of very limited use to sysadmins.
hmmm .. whilst comparing a port scan from a known baseline doesn;t tell you
that badness hasn't happend .. if you find new ports
Steve Mynott wrote:
Robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Steve Mynott wrote:
In short portscans are of very limited use to sysadmins.
hmmm .. whilst comparing a port scan from a known baseline doesn;t tell you
that badness hasn't happend .. if you find new ports open then thats an
i just had a trial run with Dave H, of xfrisk (i'm sure it used to
just be called xrisk years ago) and it isn't half bad
so if anyone fancies a game at around say 7.30pm (GMT), why not
download/compile the program, its at
http://morphy.iki.fi/xfrisk/
and pop on
* Ivor Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
As a relative lon.pm newcomer, how do I get to this mythical
irc.rhizomatic.net?
get an irc client (i recommend xchat for unix or mirc for windows),
enter in the server bit irc.rhizomatic.net, and some nick for yourself
say ivorw
then when on, join
On 7 Jan 2002, Mike Jarvis wrote:
On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 19:24, Chris Devers wrote:
Cheating, but I think more in terms of albums than songs...
%top_five_albums = (
Miles Davis= Kind of Blue,
The Beatles= Abbey Road,
Fugazi = Repeater,
Morphine
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 07:23:03PM +, Natalie Ford wrote:
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 06:24:12PM +, Mark Fowler wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Ivor Williams wrote:
As a relative lon.pm newcomer, how do I get to this mythical
irc.rhizomatic.net?
Get ye an irc client. On *nix ircII will
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Barbie [home] wrote:
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ack, I mean't to say top 5 songs (damn)
1) Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika
2) Achille's Last Stand, Led Zeppelin
3) The Kiss, The Cure
4) Further Away, IQ
5) Last Exit For The Lost, Fields of the Nephilim
and I
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 02:31:51PM -0600, Chris Devers wrote:
The website is Leo's responsibility, but he's had a product launch to
do.
Someone else with an account on penderel could do it, of course.
--
:: paul
:: husk
Robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Any internet connected host can expected to be scanned in a fairly aggressive
manner at any time. It happens regularly. I find plenty of scans, fragments and
other network oddities accumulating in my firewall logs. If my systems were
liable to fall over from a
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 01:53:57PM +, Tony Bowden wrote:
Then ask for for experience in those things specifically. Not for
something as bland as years experience in the industry.
Because it would be quite truthful to say that you had N years experience
whilst conveniently editing the fact
Jon Nangle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dave == Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dave You said:
I am sure they are not going to turn away someone with 4 or
5 years of really good experience.
Dave The FACT is that they have, so you are patently wrong.
Steve Mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you can't panic the kernel you may be able to crash network
services.
A lot of things are networked now (printers, hubs etc) not just
computers and the chances of all their stacks and networking software
dealing sanely with really bizarre networking
* Dave Hodgkinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
What Greg said! Read what he wrote...he said they're not going to turn
someone down with the experience. They have, at _least_ twice, maybe
more.
if i wanted to express my opinion more formally, i might of stated it
along the lines of ...
Greg == Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Greg more anecdotally, you could have 7 years of excellent experience
Greg and get turned down because you decided to masturbate during the
Greg interview - i know this has lost me a few interviews over the
Greg years ;-)
Exactly
From: Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ack, I mean't to say top 5 songs (damn)
1) Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika
and I don't think any of them have been on daytime radio one :)
I think the first one has ...
/J\
In it's own right or as the intro
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 02:34:58PM +, the hatter wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Kieran wrote:
If the root kit uses a kernel module to hide evidence of tampering, and
unlinks binaries after they have been run in daemon mode, even checksums
aren't gonna help you much.
And the
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 01:06:13PM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Go further back up the thread. Check out what the rootkit mentioned
does. Then tell me why your proposition won't work.
Doh.
# wget https://.../tools/ids-kit.tar.gz
# tar zxf
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, David Cantrell wrote:
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 02:34:58PM +, the hatter wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Kieran wrote:
If the root kit uses a kernel module to hide evidence of tampering, and
unlinks binaries after they have been run in daemon mode, even checksums
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An entity claiming to be Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:=20
: i just had a trial run with Dave H, of xfrisk (i'm sure it used to
: just be called
Pretty good,
http://www.brunching.com/features/geekhierarchy.html
Paul
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