Re: Maintaining multiple concurrent versions of code?

2002-02-05 Thread the hatter
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Roger Burton West wrote: What I should like to do is surround the secret code with tags which can be automatically stripped out. Using the C pre-processor would be one way of doing this, but it strikes me as ugly. Are there any other recommendations, or should I write my

Re: Destructor sees modified version of $self

2002-02-05 Thread Jonathan Peterson
Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Anyone seen this before? Yep, trying to get a TODO test together in the core to clarify the behaviour infact. Its the destruction order - I bet that some of the things that are getting destroyed too early are other

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, it's been a few weeks now and the job market doesn't seem to be getting any better. I'm still not even getting interviews. Weeks? HAH! plug On a similar note, I'm getting a lot of interest in my non-exec and interim CTO product (ie: me). If your

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Natalie Ford
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 10:15:26AM +, Dave Cross wrote: Well, it's been a few weeks now and the job market doesn't seem to be getting any better. I'm still not even getting interviews. Well, I am now officially signed off with CFT indeffinitely by the gp... -- Natalie Ford

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Chris Ball
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, anyway, this is just a reminder that I'm still available. If you or your company have any short-term Perl needs, please get in touch with me to discuss it. Don't think it's been mentioned here, so I shall; theregister started up a job site a week or

Emergency Social Meeting Wednesday next

2002-02-05 Thread Piers Cawley
It appears that Mr Cozens and his crew from Oxfnord will be in London for UKUUG next Wednesday, so I think we should convene at a pub with him, drink beer and talk about stuff. Now, the ideal pub would be within walking difference of either Victoria or Marble Arch for them to catch the Oxford

Re: Maintaining multiple concurrent versions of code?

2002-02-05 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Roger Burton West wrote: On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 09:59:51AM +, Nick Cleaton wrote: Now there's a familiar name... my past is coming back to haunt me. We're all ganging up on you matey :) /J\

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Dave Cross
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 12:22:00PM +, Chris Ball ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, anyway, this is just a reminder that I'm still available. If you or your company have any short-term Perl needs, please get in touch with me to discuss it. Don't

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 02:57:37PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: Now I can understand the business need to hide address/email/etc.[1] or else they would have to sign you up to some contract - but how do you feel about them touching it up (your CV that is ;-)) to aid your cause? ;-) Is this good

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Dave == Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Thanks, just checked it out. Dave File must be in Microsoft Word format Send them a plain text file and say Microsoft Word has no problems reading this. :-) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Robert Shiels
From: Randal L. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave File must be in Microsoft Word format Send them a plain text file and say Microsoft Word has no problems reading this. Yes - simply rename the file to cv.doc, and he'll never know it isn't just a plain ASCII text file. On the point about

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:21:34PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: Yes - simply rename the file to cv.doc, and he'll never know it isn't just a plain ASCII text file. Apparently this is no longer true; I tried it last time round. Text, HTML, RTF, all were renamed to .doc, but all were unreadable by

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Simon Wistow
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:29:56PM +, Dave Thorn said: or rename cv.txt to cv.doc I have mine in rtf for layout ness and because I can, theoretically, I haven't actually got round to implementing it yet, generate it using our favourite scripting language and can therefore write a Makefile

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Simon Wilcox
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Thanks, just checked it out. File must be in Microsoft Word format Morons! IHMO ... The real issue here isn't MS Word vs. PDF/HTML/DVI/ASCII , its the point that a recruiter wants to edit your CV

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Robert Shiels
From: Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:21:34PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: Yes - simply rename the file to cv.doc, and he'll never know it isn't just a plain ASCII text file. Apparently this is no longer true; I tried it last time round. Text, HTML, RTF, all

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Chris Devers
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Simon Wilcox wrote: I think a lot of recruiters have invested in fancy software to index and trawl CVs. So fancy it can't cope with anything other than documents in Word binary format, even though Word itself will read several others. If you apply online for a job at

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:55:13PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: I've only got Word97, and it worked for a .txt file there. Not for an html one though, I tested that before I sent my last post. Does anyone have access to a more recent version of Word and can confirm what Roger said? I have no idea

Resume parsing with perl

2002-02-05 Thread Tommie M. Jones
Anyone know of any perl software that does resume parsing. --- Get inside Atlanta's Tech Scene - http://www.atlantageek.com 'Business Intelligence' is not an Oxymoron - http://www.intelliforge.com

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Dave Thorn
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 07:02:29AM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Dave == Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave File must be in Microsoft Word format Send them a plain text file and say Microsoft Word has no problems reading this. or rename cv.txt to cv.doc -- dave thorn | [EMAIL

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 02:57:37PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Thanks, just checked it out. File must be in Microsoft Word format Morons! IHMO ... The real issue here isn't MS Word vs. PDF/HTML/DVI/ASCII , its the point that a

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:44:28PM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: I realise that currently it is. *Why* do they do it? To increase your chances of getting an interview. They get paid if you get a job. Any job. So they want you to go to as many interviews as possible, and they'll press you to

Re: Resume parsing with perl

2002-02-05 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Tommie M. Jones wrote: Anyone know of any perl software that does resume parsing. I dunno about ones in M$ Word but I have Schema for an XML Resume at http://petunia.gellyfish.com/XML along with a couple example XSLT thingies ... /J\

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Piers Cawley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz) writes: Dave == Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Thanks, just checked it out. Dave File must be in Microsoft Word format Send them a plain text file and say Microsoft Word has no problems reading this. I've had a pimp who refused to open a

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Robert Shiels
From: Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:44:28PM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: I realise that currently it is. *Why* do they do it? To increase your chances of getting an interview. They get paid if you get a job. Any job. So they want you to go to as many

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Mike Jarvis
On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 10:44, Nicholas Clark wrote: I realise that currently it is. *Why* do they do it? The only valid reason I could see was that they wished to place their company logo on the top of the CV, so that if it gets copied or passed around it becomes obvious who provided it.

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Chris Ball
Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:44:28PM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: They get paid if you get a job. Any job. So they want you to go to as many interviews as possible, and they'll press you to accept any offer I don't think that's necessarily the case.

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Chris Devers
On 5 Feb 2002, Chris Ball wrote: Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They get paid if you get a job. Any job. So they want you to go to as many interviews as possible, and they'll press you to accept any offer I don't think that's necessarily the case. If an agency supplies a

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Simon Wilcox
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Nicholas Clark wrote: [snip cv stuff] I had mine nicely formatted and fitting on 4 pages. Not only did they deformat it, but they also carefully removed the lines I'd made indicating which jobs were permenant, which was contract, and which permanent jobs had gone bust on

Re: Resume parsing with perl

2002-02-05 Thread Chris Devers
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Tommie M. Jones wrote: Anyone know of any perl software that does resume parsing. I dunno about ones in M$ Word but I have Schema for an XML Resume at http://petunia.gellyfish.com/XML along with a couple example XSLT

Something for the CFT brigade

2002-02-05 Thread Chris Ball
http://www.google.com/programming-contest/ I would be quite remarkably fired if I entered, I'm sure. But it looks like lots of fun, and search is something that #perl people tend to talk about quite a bit. Just thought I'd pass it on. - Chris. -- $a=printf.net; Chris Ball | chris@void.$a

Re: Something for the CFT brigade

2002-02-05 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 09:20:30PM +, Chris Ball wrote: http://www.google.com/programming-contest/ I would be quite remarkably fired if I entered, I'm sure. But it looks like lots of fun, and search is something that #perl people tend to talk about quite a bit. Just thought I'd

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread The address I am subscribed from (as if a header can be verified as being from the real me)
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:53:34PM +, Simon Wistow wrote: The one advantage of Word is that you cna password protect it so tat AgentScum can't edit it. Has anyone actually tried pulling this trick on the pimps? If so, how do they react? And how effective is Word's lockdown? Does it not

Re: Something for the CFT brigade

2002-02-05 Thread Adam Turoff
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 01:37:01PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 09:20:30PM +, Chris Ball wrote: http://www.google.com/programming-contest/ Ah yes, the classic old why put expensive clever people on the payroll when we can run a competition and for a measly

Re: Something for the CFT brigade

2002-02-05 Thread Chris Ball
Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 09:20:30PM +, Chris Ball wrote: Ah yes, the classic old why put expensive clever people on the payroll when we can run a competition and for a measly $10K keep *all* the IP for *all* the answers? I did refer to it as 'the

Re: Something for the CFT brigade

2002-02-05 Thread Chris Devers
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Paul Makepeace wrote: Ah yes, the classic old why put expensive clever people on the payroll when we can run a competition and for a measly $10K keep *all* the IP for *all* the answers? (US$10K barely buys two weeks of contract work in Silicon Valley) OTOH, how much

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Nic Gibson
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 09:44:20PM +, The address I am subscribed from (as if a header can be verified as being from the real me) wrote: On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:53:34PM +, Simon Wistow wrote: The one advantage of Word is that you cna password protect it so tat AgentScum can't

Re: Something for the CFT brigade

2002-02-05 Thread Mike Jarvis
On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 17:08, Chris Devers wrote: real cynicism: pretzel shmetzel, the guy was drunk :) Not believing everything that comes out of the White House and the right wing controlled media (ie, all of it) isn't cynicism, it's good sense. -- mike Pretzel schmetzel, the guy was drunk

Re: Something for the CFT brigade

2002-02-05 Thread Chris Devers
On 5 Feb 2002, Mike Jarvis wrote: On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 17:08, Chris Devers wrote: real cynicism: pretzel shmetzel, the guy was drunk :) Not believing everything that comes out of the White House and the right wing controlled media (ie, all of it) isn't cynicism, it's good sense. Check

Re: Something for the CFT brigade

2002-02-05 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 06:08:22PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote: On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 17:08, Chris Devers wrote: real cynicism: pretzel shmetzel, the guy was drunk :) Not believing everything that comes out of the White House and the right wing controlled media (ie, all of it) isn't cynicism,

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Robert Shiels
From: The address I am subscribed from (as if a header can be verified as being from the real me) [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:53:34PM +, Simon Wistow wrote: The one advantage of Word is that you cna password protect it so tat AgentScum can't edit it. Has anyone actually

Re: Something for the CFT brigade

2002-02-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:23:35PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: Huh, last I looked it was claimed by the right-wingers to be liberal controlled. Funny, depends who ya ask, huh? :) Ah, the BBC :) Paul, lived equal time in Texas California, and a few months in the Midwest Anywhere near