Re: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 03:58:41PM +0100, Lusercop wrote: > On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 03:49:27PM +0100, Simon Wilcox wrote: > > * Must be a poster to the list > > * Or a regular on IRC > > * Or a regular at the pub and/or technical meets. > OK, how do you judge any of these? Matthew, let me introduc

Re: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 12:53:54PM +0100, Dean Wilson wrote: > I haven't been to an official meeting in the best part of twelve months and > i had to miss YAPC. Does that make me a "freebie-seeking hanger on"? If it > does and the criteria for getting something on the site is going to the pub > th

Re: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 12:12:03PM +0100, Simon Batistoni wrote: > On 11/10/02 10:16 +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: > > Which made me thing - is there a section on "books we wrote" on the > > london.pm site to give blatant free advertising plugs? [No] > > > > Would it be a good idea? Not sure. Beca

Re: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Barbie [home]
From: "Simon Batistoni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I think personal bios still have a problem, in that there has to be > some criteria for "bio-worthiness", which doesn't wind up looking > elitist. I have a sinking feeling that the two things are > incompatible, and that nice idea as it is, it really

Re: [OT] NFS/ipchains confusion

2002-10-11 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 06:24:36PM +0100, Kate L Pugh wrote: >I'm trying to NFS-mount some space from my desktop (klimt - 213.208.67.54) >on my laptop (falafel - 213.208.67.53); specifically, I want >falafel:/var/cache/apt/ to be an NFS mount since I don't currently >have enough disk space to run

[OT] NFS/ipchains confusion

2002-10-11 Thread Kate L Pugh
I was going on about this on IRC yesterday; still haven't solved it, but I've got a somewhat more coherent explanation of the problem now, so I'm posting here in the hope that someone can help. I'm trying to NFS-mount some space from my desktop (klimt - 213.208.67.54) on my laptop (falafel - 213.

Re: Testing whether 'use'ing a module throws warnings

2002-10-11 Thread Kate L Pugh
On Sunday, October 6, 2002, at 07:06 pm, Kate L Pugh wrote: >> I wanted a test that's like use_ok, but which fails if any warnings >> [...] come up during the 'use'. But I only wanted it On Thu 10 Oct 2002, Adrian Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you can live with two tests (one for the s

Re: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Paul Johnson
Simon Wistow said: > Where would we be if we'd not bothered writing some Matt's Scripts > replacments on the assumption that nobody would pick them up. Or > written an extensible MLM in Perl on the assumption that despite having > whinged about it for ages nobody would actually care. Oooh, di

Re: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 04:16:56PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: > Of course sometimes I think exactly the opposite but if yer optomistic > then you get a lot more done. Hear hear. Just post to webmaster and then have them check it in. Webmaster might like to provide a template (in the general sense

RE: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Ivor Williams
On Friday, October 11, 2002 4:17 PM, Simon Wistow [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 04:02:21PM +0100, Ivor Williams said: > > Maybe introduce some kind of XP style voting system, like on Perlmonks or > > Everything2. > > Alternatively we could just do it and then, if any

[JOB] Rational Clearcase expert

2002-10-11 Thread Ivor Williams
Sorry if details seem a bit vague. Sorry again, this is not a Perl job. My employers (Sopra Group) are looking for a Clearcase person. We are looking for someone skilled in: * Installing and configuring Clearcase * Clearcase administration * Configuration Management * De

Re: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Simon Wilcox
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Lusercop wrote: > On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 03:49:27PM +0100, Simon Wilcox wrote: > > * Must be a poster to the list > > * Or a regular on IRC > > * Or a regular at the pub and/or technical meets. > > OK, how do you judge any of these? Why, subjectively of course ! Seriously

Re: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Simon Wistow
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 04:02:21PM +0100, Ivor Williams said: > Maybe introduce some kind of XP style voting system, like on Perlmonks or > Everything2. Alternatively we could just do it and then, if anybody complains, deal with it then rather than our current modus operandi of burning our bridg

Re: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Simon Wistow
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 03:49:27PM +0100, Simon Wilcox said: > My criteria for getting on it would probably be similar to the rules for > voting in last years leadership contest, that is: > > * Must be a poster to the list > * Or a regular on IRC > * Or a regular at the pub and/or technical meet

Re: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 03:58:41PM +0100, Lusercop wrote: >On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 03:49:27PM +0100, Simon Wilcox wrote: >> * Must be a poster to the list >> * Or a regular on IRC >> * Or a regular at the pub and/or technical meets. >OK, how do you judge any of these? How often does one have to po

RE: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Ivor Williams
On Friday, October 11, 2002 3:49 PM, Simon Wilcox [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Simon Batistoni wrote: > > > I think personal bios still have a problem, in that there has to be > > some criteria for "bio-worthiness", which doesn't wind up looking > > elitist. I have a s

Re: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Lusercop
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 03:49:27PM +0100, Simon Wilcox wrote: > * Must be a poster to the list > * Or a regular on IRC > * Or a regular at the pub and/or technical meets. OK, how do you judge any of these? How often does one have to post in order to be "a poster on the list". How much time spent

Re: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Simon Wilcox
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Simon Batistoni wrote: > I think personal bios still have a problem, in that there has to be > some criteria for "bio-worthiness", which doesn't wind up looking > elitist. I have a sinking feeling that the two things are > incompatible, and that nice idea as it is, it really

Re: applying patterns

2002-10-11 Thread Paul Johnson
Randal L. Schwartz said: > see http://www.stonehenge.com/books/ Has someone been stuffing the votes on the Ping review? -- Paul Johnson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pjcj.net

Re: applying patterns

2002-10-11 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Nicholas" == Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Nicholas> The perl6 recommended reading list Nicholas>http://www.perldoc.com/readinglist.pl Nicholas> might be somewhat excessive for our needs (linking to 4 Nicholas> different vendors) but it does have the advantage that it Nic

Re: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 02:09:37PM +0100, Simon Batistoni wrote: > On 11/10/02 12:53 +0100, Dean Wilson wrote: > > I haven't been to an official meeting in the best part of twelve months and > > i had to miss YAPC. Does that make me a "freebie-seeking hanger on"? If it > > does and the criteria for

Re: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread the hatter
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Simon Batistoni wrote: > I think personal bios still have a problem, in that there has to be > some criteria for "bio-worthiness", which doesn't wind up looking > elitist. I have a sinking feeling that the two things are > incompatible, and that nice idea as it is, it really w

Re: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Simon Batistoni
On 11/10/02 12:53 +0100, Dean Wilson wrote: > I haven't been to an official meeting in the best part of twelve months and > i had to miss YAPC. Does that make me a "freebie-seeking hanger on"? If it > does and the criteria for getting something on the site is going to the pub > then fine but if it

Re: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Dean Wilson
- Original Message - From: "Simon Batistoni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It could be a long, dark, slippery slope, but I think that it's > possible to distinguish between "involved" perl mongers such as Dave, > and "freebie-seeking hangers on", who don't even come to a meeting. > There *is* a pr

Re: Perl monger funding (was RE: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Barbie
From: "Nicholas Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The links on that page were already of the form > >http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1930110006/perlmongers01 > > which would appear to be a single central Amazon affiliate for the perl > mongers. But we should check (with Dave or someone e

Re: Perl monger funding (was RE: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Leon Brocard
Ivor Williams sent the following bits through the ether: > Perhaps this is something that can be co-ordinated through pm.org itself, as > this may avoid conflicts of interest between regional monger groups. --> Please note that we are not yet officially open <-- But anyway, this might be interes

Re: Perl monger funding (was RE: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 12:13:11PM +0100, Ivor Williams wrote: > > > On Friday, October 11, 2002 11:59 AM, Barbie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > From: "Nicholas Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> link to http://www.perldoc.com/readinglist.pl was here - please look at it > > > might be somewhat exc

Perl monger funding (was RE: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Ivor Williams
On Friday, October 11, 2002 11:59 AM, Barbie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > From: "Nicholas Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > might be somewhat excessive for our needs (linking to 4 different vendors) > > but it does have the advantage that it uses an Amazon affiliates code that > > raises mone

Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

2002-10-11 Thread Simon Batistoni
On 11/10/02 10:16 +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: > Which made me thing - is there a section on "books we wrote" on the > london.pm site to give blatant free advertising plugs? [No] > > Would it be a good idea? Not sure. Because then we'd have everyone > (even Matt Wright?) subscribing to london.pm j

Re: applying patterns

2002-10-11 Thread Alex McLintock
At 11:17 11/10/02, David Cantrell wrote: Hmmm, just checked the site and we don't have reviews of either! Most remiss of us, so yes please. I have Dave's book reviewed, but not Damian's, http://news.diversebooks.com/metadata/listTwoKey.do?action=List&searchkey=perl Alex Openweb Analysts L

Re: applying patterns

2002-10-11 Thread Barbie
From: "Nicholas Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > might be somewhat excessive for our needs (linking to 4 different vendors) > but it does have the advantage that it uses an Amazon affiliates code that > raises money for the perl mongers (if you buy via Amazon) > > Might we want to do that, to try to f

Re: [JOB] Senior OO Perl Developer

2002-10-11 Thread S. Joel Bernstein
At 11/10/2002 11:23 [], Nicholas Clark wrote: On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 11:09:14AM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote: > > > At 21:38 10/10/02, you wrote: > >Vacancy: Senior OO Perl Developer > > > > > >Senior OO Perl Developer required with the following key skills and > >experience: > > > >Job Type:

Re: applying patterns

2002-10-11 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 11:17:40AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > Hmmm, just checked the site and we don't have reviews of either! Most > remiss of us, so yes please. Having also just checked the site, it seems that we don't actually make it easy to link to anyone selling books (or other stuff) w

Re: [JOB] Senior OO Perl Developer

2002-10-11 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 11:09:14AM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote: > > > At 21:38 10/10/02, you wrote: > >Vacancy: Senior OO Perl Developer > > > > > >Senior OO Perl Developer required with the following key skills and > >experience: > > > >Job Type: Permanent > >Duration 2 years > > >

Re: applying patterns

2002-10-11 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 10:46:03AM +0100, Barbie wrote: > To make up for not buying the book (always been on my todo list, but never > got round to it) until now, I have both Dave's and Damian's books on order. > I'll be doing reviews for Birmingham Perl Mongers once they arrive and I can > send th

Re: [JOB] Senior OO Perl Developer

2002-10-11 Thread Alex McLintock
At 21:38 10/10/02, you wrote: Vacancy: Senior OO Perl Developer Senior OO Perl Developer required with the following key skills and experience: Job Type: Permanent Duration 2 years This sounds like our good old Olympics ticketing job again if it is a "permanent" job which only l

Re: applying patterns

2002-10-11 Thread Barbie
From: "Nicholas Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'm sure Dave won't object to that URL being repeated. Except that you can't > easily buy it from that URL. Unlike this one: > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1930110006/needtoknow0e > > [yes, Amazon, patents, bad. Good is left as an exercis

Re: applying patterns

2002-10-11 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 07:56:06AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * Nicholas Clark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > PPS I'm sure Dave will argue that there's nothing wrong with having two or > > more copies of the same book (preferably his http://www.manning.com/cross/ > > 1 for home, 1 for