On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 08:00:03PM +, Simon Wilcox said:
> CPAN does have a reputation as a module repository. A concerted effort
> to push applications wouldn't be a bad thing.
>
> Playing devils advocate, why would it be cool ? Are you pitching this at
> perl community people or the "outside
Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:
> What I'd like to see is a "Tested with Test::More" button sized
> image.
I'm going to take your idea and subvert it to CPANTS. There are a lot
of modules out there. Some sort of quality indicator would be nice,
but that would be tricky.
And here comes a good question: What are the goodies inside Python that
keeps folks "coming out with cool new projects written in Python not Perl"?
Are any of this goodies being introduced into Apocalipse (6|7)?
Python appears to occupy the "Most of perl's advantages and none of its
disadvan
> > What I'd like to see is a "Tested with Test::More" button sized
> > image. And i'd like to see apps/modules that use Test::More or
> > Test::Simple to display it via a link. The link would go to a cgi/m_p
> > script that also generated a referer list (later on we can come up
> > with a cunning
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Simon Wistow wrote:
> o More likely (probably) that a new backend for CPANPLUS
> could be written that would allow you to just type
>
> % perl -MCPANPLUS -e'installapp perlMyAdmin'
>
> And it would work out what distribution you're using and install
> things in the
Nicholas Clark wrote:
Or whatever the black magic incantation is that causes ref to return LVALUE
not SCALAR.
my $dahut = \substr("dhuuut!!!", 6, 5);
print "$dahut\n";
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Leon Brocard wrote:
> Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:
>
> > What I'd like to see is a "Tested with Test::More" button sized
> > image.
>
> I'm going to take your idea and subvert it to CPANTS. There are a lot
> of modules out there. Some sort of qua
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 10:31:22AM +, Mark Fowler said:
> I personally have high hopes for things like PAR. Just a "drop this
> archive here and it works" thing would be great.
But doesn't that suffer from the same problems that statically linking
all your libraries does?
On the other hand
On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 08:11, Simon Wistow wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 08:00:03PM +, Simon Wilcox said:
> > What would it's *purpose* be ?
>
> What Aaron/Teejay was talking about (for yay, it was he), I think, was
> something I bought up a while back viz that installing applications in
>
> o More likely (probably) that a new backend for CPANPLUS
> could be written that would allow you to just type
>
> % perl -MCPANPLUS -e'installapp perlMyAdmin'
>
> And it would work out what distribution you're using and install
> things in there.
You might want to take a look at
Simon Wilcox wrote:
Indeed but if you look at something like OpenInteract, it has a
completely different installation/configuration to something like RT.
I'm not sure how you would standardise that.
One way would be to look at all that they do, normalise it, write a package that
makes those tasks
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 12:45:38PM -, Clayton, Nik [IT] wrote:
> You might want to take a look at BSDPAN. I gave a lightning talk about
> this a couple of tech-meets ago.
>
> Basically, it hooks in to the standard module build/install process, and
> fakes up (FreeBSD) package data for the fi
Andrew Wilson sent the following bits through the ether:
> I was talking to Schwern earlier this week, he told me there are plans to
> add this kind of facility to cpanplus, i.e. build and install .debs,
> .rpms, etc.
This is in CPANPLUS CVS and will be present for the next release,
0.50. Amongst
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 12:04:15PM +, Simon Wilcox said:
> Interesting. This really doesn't agree with either Teejay's use.per
> weblog [1] where he said "how about a nice site about cool or new perl
> projects, kind of like freshmeat but without all the python and php
> crud" or Greg's idea of
> I was talking to Schwern earlier this week, he told me there
> are plans to add this kind of facility to cpanplus, i.e. build and
> install .debs, .rpms, etc.
That might be the wrong place to put it. If it's there, it's only going
to work for stuff that's installed through CPANPLUS, right?
T
Brigitte Jellinek did a very good talk at the German Perl Workshop
comparing perl and php. I forwarded her Simon's message, and she's
kindly answered some of the questions he asked. I hope that this is
useful.
It seems that I have failed to assimilate her onto the london.pm list. :-(
This time. Mu
* Simon Wilcox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> Indeed but if you look at something like OpenInteract, it has a
> completely different installation/configuration to something like RT.
> I'm not sure how you would standardise that.
>
Do what Microsoft does, offer a standard installer/toolkit and ma
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 08:09:06AM +1100, Damian Conway said:
> Yeah. Cos I hardly write any code. And Larry's hardly written any.
> And I never spend weeks at a time training and interacting with the coding
> teams of large organizations. We just sit around all day pulling ideas out of
> the eth
On 12 Mar 2003, Simon Wilcox wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 08:11, Simon Wistow wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 08:00:03PM +, Simon Wilcox said:
> > > What would it's *purpose* be ?
> >
> > What Aaron/Teejay was talking about (for yay, it was he), I think, was
> > something I bought up a wh
Adrian Howard wrote:
Hiya,
There is also the fact that all of the new stuff is optional. You can
still do:
sub double { map { $_ * 2} @_ };
if you want. You don't have to use the new stuff unless you need it.
(maybe there should be a new perl6 acronym - YDHTUYWT - You Don't Have
To Unle
ad b) There are practically *no* libraries written in php that
are installed centrally so that they can be used by
several applications. They are trying to set up PEAR,
an imitation of CPAN, http://pear.php.net/
but all the successfull applications
out there don't use it (yet).
So why not
Damian Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Simon Wistow wrote:
>> What I worry about is maintaining code by someone
>> like Piers (sorry Piers :) which is so full of clever bits that I will
>> have to deal with 'Full on Larry during the Apocalypses demonstrating
>> some tortuous bit of syntax' sty
Mike Jarvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 12:27:00PM +, Shevek wrote:
>>
>> The tradeoff for moving things to compile time is coder speed. The extra
>> syntax, typing and complexity of source code structures makes it take
>> longer to write code. As we all know, machin
Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 12:27:00PM +, Shevek said:
>> Languages like ADA95 (I think), C++ (somewhat) [more examples?] are
>> designed as very rich source languages to pass a lot of semantic
>> information to the compiler. They are tedious to write. Fr
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 11:01:58AM +, Simon Wistow wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 10:31:22AM +, Mark Fowler said:
> > I personally have high hopes for things like PAR. Just a "drop this
> > archive here and it works" thing would be great.
>
> But doesn't that suffer from the same proble
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 09:31:49PM +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote:
> While if I understand the plan is that the standard Perl distribution
> will have less modules maybe it should actually go in the
> other direction. Maybe we should have a Perl distribtion that has
> a large number of CPAN modules ins
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 04:04:54PM +, Jasper McCrea wrote:
> The /g just removes the need for parantheses in the regex. ie
>
> ($bar) = /(foo)/
>
> is equivalent to:
>
> ($bar) = /foo/g
>
> If $_ isn't too big, the latter is probably more efficient. I said probably.
use Benchmark; # Rece
Piers Cawley wrote:
Oi!**2 Yeah, I know it's in quote marks, but even so. Especially
coming from someone who's perpetrated Perl in Klingon.
Well, if you're going to ignore significant quotations marks, I thought you'd
be *delighted*. Now you can cite me as having publicly stated:
...Pie
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On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 09:19:01AM +1100, Damian Conway wrote:
> Piers Cawley wrote:
> >Oi!**2 Yeah, I know it's in quote marks, but even so. Especially
> >coming from someone who's perpetrated Perl in Klingon.
> Well, if you're going to ignore significant quotations marks, I thought
> you'd be *
As may have already leaked out, Lucile Adler: Travel Ninja managed to get
me a night's layover in London pretty much free. So I'll be down there
tommorrow and leaving the next day.
War & Tea
During the day I plan to:
1) Visit the Imperial War Museum.
2) Go to Fortnum and Mason
If any other fol
What I hope is that Perl 6 is like that. That most people will never
see
the complicated bits. What I worry about is maintaining code by
someone
like Piers (sorry Piers :) which is so full of clever bits that I will
have to deal with 'Full on Larry during the Apocalypses demonstrating
some tortuo
Damian Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Piers Cawley wrote:
>
>> Oi!**2 Yeah, I know it's in quote marks, but even so. Especially
>> coming from someone who's perpetrated Perl in Klingon.
>
> Well, if you're going to ignore significant quotations marks, I
> thought you'd be *delighted*. Now yo
David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
>>> What I hope is that Perl 6 is like that. That most people will
>>> never see
>>> the complicated bits. What I worry about is maintaining code by
>>> someone
>>> like Piers (sorry Piers :) which is so full of clever bits that I will
>>> have to deal
Piers Cawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Damian Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Piers Cawley wrote:
>>
>>> Oi!**2 Yeah, I know it's in quote marks, but even so. Especially
>>> coming from someone who's perpetrated Perl in Klingon.
>>
>> Well, if you're going to ignore significant quotati
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 06:03:48PM +, Jason Clifford wrote:
> I am running such a blocklist here (spamsource.ukpost.com - the IPs of
> servers from which I have received SPAM, and yes anyone can use it) and
> it's fairly trivial to do.
>
> It's just a simple DNS zone so you configure it as any
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz) writes:
>> "Mark" == Mark Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Mark> There are many features that make basic Perl 6 easier to
> Mark> understand - the change in sidgels (the funny chars), easier
> Mark> function calling, nicer OO... Sum of the parts, e
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