Quoting Elaine -HFB- Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Just like MIT to overengineer something :) If little kids in Finland can
master Finnish, Swedish and English by the time they are 10, a programming
language surely couldn't be that big of a deal. Learning Finnish much,
much later in life
Merijn wrote:
I was very impressed one day when I learned that kids on Holland
nowadays learn about the land of Oct in primary school, age 9-10.
aolMe too!/aol
I was telling my wife about this just the other day. I was in the
last year of junior school so also must have been about 9. Our
Andy Wardley wrote:
Merijn wrote:
I was very impressed one day when I learned that kids on Holland
nowadays learn about the land of Oct in primary school, age 9-10.
aolMe too!/aol
aolMe three/aol
I remeber being taught about conversion to and from HEX, Binary and
Octal during my last year
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 12:16:31PM +0100, Chris Bannister wrote:
I remeber being taught about conversion to and from HEX, Binary and
Octal during my last year or so at Primary school. I'm sure our end of
term production even included people who counted in a different base.
Still remember
From: Merijn Broeren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 8/19/03 8:53:49 AM
I was very impressed one day when I learned that kids on
Holland nowadays learn about the land of Oct in primary
school, age 9-10. Where the people only count to 7. So
they learn counting 0..7, oct, oct plus one, etc. Which
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 11:53:42AM +0100, Andy Wardley wrote:
Merijn wrote:
I was very impressed one day when I learned that kids on Holland
nowadays learn about the land of Oct in primary school, age 9-10.
aolMe too!/aol
I was telling my wife about this just the other day. I was in
Dave Cross wrote:
I'm sure I did stuff in different bases pretty early on in school.
In fact, I _know_ that we much have at least touched on base
12 so that we could deal with the monetary system[1].
In France I remember doing bases 12, 24 and 60 quite young. I'll let you figure
out for what it
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 05:00:59AM -0700, Dave Cross wrote:
I'm sure I did stuff in different bases pretty early on in school.
In fact, I _know_ that we much have at least touched on base
12 so that we could deal with the monetary system.
Speaking of which, the aforementioned Schoolhouse
* Tony Bowden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 09:05:43AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
Does Perl need better PR?
To what goal?
Not having to justify the design decision of using Perl from first
principles everytime in environments that do not currently use Perl.
Greg
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 10:36:28AM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote:
You might really say that this is a problem of Open Source as a whole.
Its marketing really sucks.
Double plus for Free Software.
Sell the benefit - not the technology.
So how does that apply to perl? what could anyone do
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 10:45:37AM +0100, Alex Hudson wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 10:36:28AM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote:
You might really say that this is a problem of Open Source as a whole.
Its marketing really sucks.
Double plus for Free Software.
Sell the benefit - not the
Joel Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*Sell the children, I say.
Well, you know.years ago I suggested that there be a series of Perl
for kids cartoons with jingles in the vein of School House Rock [
www.schoolhouserock.com ] which were educational cartoons shown on
saturday mornings with
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 06:09:31AM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
Well, you know.years ago I suggested that there be a series of Perl
for kids cartoons with jingles in the vein of School House Rock [
www.schoolhouserock.com ] which were educational cartoons shown on
saturday mornings
On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 01:00 pm, Mike Jarvis wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 06:09:31AM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
Well, you know.years ago I suggested that there be a series of
Perl
for kids cartoons with jingles in the vein of School House Rock [
www.schoolhouserock.com ]
Steve Purkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*The greatest thing about all this targeted marketing will be the
*side-effects - kids asking their parents if they can code Perl. You
*know, the pressure that marketing puts on parents is phenomenal...
*we'll have them coding Perl in no time!
You
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 07:09:48AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
Does Perl need better PR?
To what goal?
Not having to justify the design decision of using Perl from first
principles everytime in environments that do not currently use Perl.
I think that's too broad a goal.
The target
On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 02:30 pm, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
Steve Purkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*The greatest thing about all this targeted marketing will be the
*side-effects - kids asking their parents if they can code Perl. You
*know, the pressure that marketing puts on parents
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
Press releases are uninteresing and dull, dull, dulldo something
interesting and they will come :)
I am not sure if that is interesting or if it makes sense but if there were
some (educational ?) games in Perl that school kids could play
Alex Hudson wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 10:36:28AM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote:
You might really say that this is a problem of Open Source as a whole.
Its marketing really sucks.
Double plus for Free Software.
Similarly and earlier, Leon Brocard wrote:
[Perl PR] needs people to just do it.
Tim Sweetman wrote:
Alex Hudson wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 10:36:28AM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote:
You might really say that this is a problem of Open Source as a whole.
Its marketing really sucks.
Double plus for Free Software.
Similarly and earlier, Leon Brocard wrote:
[Perl PR]
Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*I am not sure if that is interesting or if it makes sense but if there were
*some (educational ?) games in Perl that school kids could play and then
*hack around the code.
Well, see, the cool thing about School House Rock, especially Grammar Rock
and
It's come up before and, of course, there was the less successful than
hoped Perl 5.8 press release, but I noticed this in an interview with
Guido van Rossum :
GvR: Perhaps. Anyway, there are some people taking specific actions to
promote Python, notably Kevin Altis, who among other things
Simon Wistow sent the following bits through the ether:
Does Perl need better PR?
No, it needs people to just do it.
The right place for this discussion is the perl advocacy mailing list,
which seems to be fairly quiet. FWIW The Ponie press release got sent
on the Canon PR newswire and
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 09:05:43AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
Does Perl need better PR?
To what goal?
Tony
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 10:10:34AM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
FWIW The Ponie press release got sent on the Canon PR newswire and
targeted at various journalists and we still failed to get any major
writeups.
What sort of writeups were you expecting / hoping for?
I'd say the number of people
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