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On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 12:03:02PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote:
On or about Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 11:55:07AM +0100, Richard Clamp typed:
Hmmm, Hoegaarden
Currently a quid per litre bottle in Calais. Last weekend was a good
one...
Okay, so the month after next we go even further south
see and feel the benefits of doing things test
first, without doing the other stuff, but you're not doing XP at that
point.
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http://www.fpc-ucc.org/fpcDave.html
Get her! That was your whole plan, Get her!
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On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 07:08:48AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
As promised, we will be having a technical meeting on Thursday 20th September.
Start time?
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And the top secret talk we can't mention
Yeah, and if I catch anyone using Pod::Coverage you'll all be for the
high jump.
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90 minutes of vaguely attractive young women
doing kung fu in order to enjoy a film :)
Yes, I agree, 90 minutes was far too short. You could always watch it
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- send a test page at regular
intervals/times of the day. If you don't get one, then worry.
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On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 11:57:53AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
Channel #london.pm was created at Thu Oct 19 14:48:32 2000
Which by my reckoning means that #london.pm's first birthday is today in a few hours
:)
Nope, it ain't, we did this before though.
*rummage*
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-up _geek_ events, and then gave
1e9 as a further example.
I don't hold much joy for Christmas though, but Halloween and Bonfire
Night rock my world.
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the
entrance...
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I figure we're pretty safe releasing it to CPAN (the kiddies will
never think to look there), but does anyone have any comments before I
do?
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USIG.pm
, it's getting a bit chunky, track the
development of the code on that there interweb:
http://unixbeard.net/~richardc/lab/Acme-USIG/
And later on the CPAN, when I've wrestled a Makefile.PL together.
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On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 02:52:45PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote:
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 02:44:41PM +0100, Richard Clamp wrote:
+sub gay::is { http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?form=4700; }
I think you want s/form/read/ there.
So I do, thanks for the catch.
Did I ever
the one you're looking for.
But if you can't tell what a test is testing then I'd say you've got a
bigger problem than having to find 23 names.
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richardc@jay:~% perl -e 'use Test::More tests = 2; ok(1); ok(1, with message)'
1..2
ok 1
ok 2 - with message
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and
their refrigerated for a year fruit then you're wrong.
The variance in what you see at markets is much less seasonal and more
a side-effect of supply and demand. If $supermarket_chain decides to
have granny smiths, and there aren't enough to go round, then they
don't.
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got was a Bananman
key fob.
[1] Though there are more like 4 but I can only think of Geests and
Fyffes right now.
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';
inc_foo(foo = $foo);
print $foo; prints 2
code here: http://unixbeard.net/~richardc/lab/Tie-Hash-ByReference/
Patches and a better name welcome. I'll probably let it escape to
CPAN next week, when I'm back from my week off.
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character.
it's matched on the 'nip' not the mmnipm.
I think anyway.
Change $a, think again.
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, and
so not an object. At that point the joke was ruined.
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it can't
validate [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a valid sender - it keeps
defering on me.
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On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 10:46:29AM +, Richard Clamp wrote:
Place your bets on what this does:
For added fun - I just discovered that it behaves differently under perl
5.005_03 compared to 5.6.1.
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line 13.
So on inspection it looks like what you get stops being an object just
after the DESTROY finishes, in older perls, but not in 5.6.1.
So remember kids, if you really want to bring yourself back from the
dead use a newer perl and everything will be fine.
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in the first place. I just flogged the pony until it was
good and dead.
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to allow documentation in a parent class to be counted in
the coverage of the child has started to tingle (aka as making
Pod::Coverage grok inheritance), so that'll be the main target of
the next bunch of stuff.
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think, but possibly in a very after the fact hey
this implementation feature exists, but lets not toss it because it's
useful way.
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On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 10:08:05AM -, Ivor Williams wrote:
Any thoughts?
eval sub { $some_code }
?
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On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 10:55:06AM -, Ivor Williams wrote:
Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
eval sub { $some_code }
This is missing the point, as eval runs it now, I want to run it later.
Eval compiles the sub now, but no code runs until you dereference
the subroutine reference
/local/perl5.6.1/bin/perl, men are men and shoes are
optional)
This was causing all sorts of aggravation, then I remembered env(1).
Top Tip for the day:
#!/usr/bin/env perl5.6.1 -w
Saves constant tweaking when moving between boxes, which was nice.
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/msg01105.html
but as with most p5p stuff, I'm a little unclear as to which is going
to be right. I suspect doing it and calling it Devel::UpVar isn't
going to get me shot, right?, right?
Suggestions? Comments?
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On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 06:42:07PM +, Paul Mison wrote:
If anyone knows how to control the orientation of the arrows, I'd be
grateful for the hint.
Don't upset the Indians?
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and Chave is
somewhat ruder, forcing our variable upon you.
I again blame Mark - he wasn't drinking when we came up with this.
Available here:
http://unixbeard.net/~richardc/lab/Acme-Your/Acme-Your-0.01.tar.gz
or your local CPAN mirror
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an
unacceptable answer :)
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know of a good way to get the true Cv in
this case - or shall I just steal some more code and implement my own
calllevel-to-cv implementation?
[0] Though I've told people what it is for already I'm hoping to
reveal all properly on Thursday with a working implementation.
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is only really a consensual
callstack, so I think it's a little late now...
But I now have the rw case working :)
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On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 09:03:44AM +, Piers Cawley wrote:
Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 08:12:42PM +, Robin Houston wrote:
Do you want to find the coderef of foo from _within_ a pre or post
handler?
No, within foo (or something foo may happen
It's here, it's groovy, it's the subject of a lightning talk.
http://unixbeard.net/~richardc/lab/Sub-Parameters/Sub-Parameters-0.01.tar.gz
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NAME
Sub::Parameters - enhanced parmeter handling
SYNOPSIS
use Sub::Parameters;
sub foo : WantParam
thread structure. Is this
intentional?
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On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 03:11:21AM +, Richard Clamp wrote:
It's here, it's groovy, it's the subject of a lightning talk.
It's a bit buggy for perl blead, but now it doesn't barf over the
test scripts.
http://unixbeard.net/~richardc/lab/Sub-Parameters/Sub-Parameters-0.02.tar.gz
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while it's at the keyboard.
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but trying to get it to do it for hard
links?
No, I know I have this behaviour for hardlinks with emacs, I was just
striving to produce a really tidy patch by using something less
full-auto.
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On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 12:55:08PM +, Rob Partington wrote:
Well, :set bkc=no seems to do what you want.
Groovy, thanks.
Now that I see it the docs that issue dire warnings that you may not
want to do that seem almost comical.
Back to the code I guess.
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On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 12:32:41PM +, Andrew Wilson wrote:
On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 12:12:18PM +, Richard Clamp wrote:
You seem to have inodes and dirents linked in your brain
incorrectly.
Perhaps I do. My understanding is that the inode is the file, it has
all the info except
mind their photo appearing in the magazine.
Huh? What? Ears burning?
I'm not quite sure how that pic illustrates the ethos of nms, since
I'm only involved as much as knowing of the project, but yes, they
have my blessing to use it.
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really notice
until you lose them.
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On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:05:49AM +, Simon Wistow wrote:
{
local $^W = 0;
$CGI::DISABLE_UPLOADS = 1;
$CGI::POST_MAX= 100;
}
?
I'm assuming the ? is because you haven't tried it, right?
Didn't wfm on 5.005_03 anyhow.
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On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:40:39AM +, Simon Wistow wrote:
Yeah, I didn't have quick access to an early Perl. Should have included
more disclaimers.
Is now when I mention it doesn't work on 5.6.1 or blead too?
What are you counting as a non-early Perl?
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doesn't just use CGI,
and see the pain fade.
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richardc@mirth:~% perl -v | head -2 ; for i in foo bar baz ; do echo --- $i ; cat $i ;
echo --- ; perl -w $i ; done
This is perl, v5.6.1 built for powerpc-linux
--- foo
{
local $^W = 0;
$CGI
was the latter.
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doubt I was even born back then, but I
have albums older than that :)
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vars qw/@bar/;
foo( @bar = qw( some value ) );
is broken as it generates real split ops rather than optimising it
into a constant assignment at compile time as in newer perls.
SEE ALSO
caller in perlfunc, PadWalker, Devel::Peek
AUTHOR
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commence on forcing this further and further back in
time, next stop 5.005_03.
As ever, lurking here before it gets to CPAN:
http://unixbeard.net/~richardc/lab/Sub-Parameters/
[0] Taking a less broken Devel::Caller with it, oopsie.
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at the generated Foo.xs.gcov
results.
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is in my brain, are you planning to talk at any
conferences this year? I know I'd like to see a Devel::Cover
flavoured talk, and I suspect I'm not alone.
It's also helped me enough recently retrofitting tests to some code at
work that I suspect that I owe you at least a drink or six.
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reinstates. Oh well.
[4] Lack of confidence being in no way related to lack of skill[5]
[5] Though as Dave has recently pointed out, lack of skill and high
confidence isn't an impossible combination (though it can result
in impossible people :)
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do you
On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 12:16:44PM -, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
and on Sunday 10 February 2002 01:31 + Richard Clamp wrote:
[and how he does deeply disturbing perlguts-type stuff but doesn't want to
discuss it on london.pm in case he scares people]
And also that there are scary people
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 09:27:07PM +, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
Is there an 'Old Gits Hostel' too ;-}
I suspect they'll have to make their pension stretch to a hotel.
Start eating catfood now.
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squeezy thing on fruit?
No, but I'm saving up for one of these: (potentially offensive/not
work safe/you're all a bunch of girls if you complain)
http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2002-02-11res=l
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';
with %foo {
print $bar{key}; # prints 'value'
print $foo[1]; # prints 'baz'
print $baz; # prints 'outside'
};
Oh wait, I've just realised that's pretty much what CAlias does.
Tum te tum.
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On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 02:34:38PM -, Barbie wrote:
Your system clock is way out. Start hiding from Herr Mison now :)
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On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 02:36:53PM +, Rob Partington wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From the nice features from Turbo Pascal, brought to Perl department:
Okay, strangely inspired by Russells Pixies tribute, and a few bottles
of beer, I
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 03:01:02PM +, Richard Clamp wrote:
It also seems it wasn't quite original thinking of my own:
http://dev.perl.org/rfc/342.pod But I don't know how the apocalypses
have rated that rfc.
I realised I was being too lazy, and looked:
Apoc4 states:
-
RFC 342
tables that fit the
needs of the application.
There must be easier ways than this :-)
I think I said that too :)
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,
but identifying new messages is just a case of
(ls Maildir/new ; ls Maildir/cur | grep -v ':2,[A-R]?*S[T-Z]?$' ) | wc -l
And identifying which folders have new stuff is just when
Maildir/{cur,new}/ was modified later than Maildir/
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enhances the language?
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right.
Suggestions please.
[0] Currently done for 5.005_03 and 5.6.1, as they were handy.
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of the bar.
You can recognise me because I have a goatee and will be carrying a black
rucksack full of books.
Does it have a see-through window? I think even among geeks it's rude
to stop and search everyone carrying rucksacks, though I've been wrong
about less before.
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of not
accidentally breaking everything at some point down the line and being
unaware of it. Also it lets me nail down api conventions by having
real uses of the interface.
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mostly looks perplexed/confused, but occasionally flips into
pensive.
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My slides from last night lurk here:
http://unixbeard.net/~richardc/lab/talks/acme-your/acme-your.slides/
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packages use
StudlyCaps::Names since all lowercase names are reserved for pragmas.
Otherwise it's fine, assuming you launder $objtype accordingly.
People (well I) do this all the time.
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issues with
moving to 5.8. Maybe you could use some alternate notation.
constant $scalar = something;
and then do something source filtery.[1]
[1] No I don't like that suggestion, but while the crack pipe is out
we may as well indulge.
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On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:27:55PM +, Richard Clamp wrote:
often useful. And there's also the speed thing pne picked up on already.
Doh, I mean Paul Makepeace. Too many names starting with P, or
something.
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stupid?
Yes. Time them as subs.
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On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:36:56PM +, Richard Clamp wrote:
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 05:19:30AM -0800, Dave Cross wrote:
From: iwilliams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What's the performance hit? Probably worth a benchmark -
being careful about judging the effects of optimisation.
Having
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:58:59PM +, Simon Wilcox wrote:
use constant DEBUG = 1;
my $debug = 0;
Spot the difference.
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On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 03:34:54PM -0500, anathema wrote:
YMMV, but if you have a brain, you may be disappointed.
Excellent. I use my brain too much as it is, an excuse to completely
turn it off for an hour or so is often welcomed.
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.
[1] I'll cough to a slight amount of bias since this is typically how
I run my machines.
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On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:17:02PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's an auction? Auctioning things to drunk people really isn't
fair, you know...
No it happens during the day, when people could have hangovers. This
could be more inhumane.
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\
http://www.gnu.org/
Or, with less typing:
wget -m -k -K -E http://www.gnu.org/ -o
/home/me/weeklog
--- From wget(1)
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We came up with the notion for this last social meeting, but I've only
got around to writing the code.
Winging it's way to your nearest CPAN mirror, or available here:
http://unixbeard.net/~richardc/lab/Acme-Magpie/
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NAME
Acme::Magpie - steals shiny
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:20:10PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
Founders Arms gets my vote.
Sorry, you don't count because you're not voting for the Anchor.
Only the old bits or outside though.
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the authors, if there isn't room for both.
Dumb Question: Authors of the reviews, or the books?
Give me the info and I'll look at working up patches.
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part, and as such evil, but the old part
has no rooms big enough for everyone to fit in.
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. If that happens my money is on recycling the existing
code in the meantime which'll never get replaced.
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/Writing_A_Test_Library
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people just
didn't pick up on it.
It needs a few things pulling together for its first release, but it's
all self hosting and stuff.
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On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 05:42:33PM +, Jasper McCrea wrote:
Ifin they ain't too big, try
@array1 eq @array2
@array1 = qw( foo bar );
@array2 = qw( foob ar );
They're not big, but they are still wrong :)
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On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 05:54:32PM +, Richard Clamp wrote:
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 05:42:33PM +, Jasper McCrea wrote:
Ifin they ain't too big, try
@array1 eq @array2
@array1 = qw( foo bar );
@array2 = qw( foob ar );
They're not big, but they are still wrong :)
Or would
tying, and so is much quicker.
http://search.cpan.org/author/PINYAN/Lexical-Alias-0.03/Alias.pm
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/~richardc/journal/8901
http://mirth.unixbeard.net/svn/richardc/perl/Devel-LeakTrace-0.01/
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::LeakTrace $VERSION;
+}
+
+INIT {
start_up();
}
Though we should probably take this off list about now...
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Dear voter, you may have noticed by now that I've not turned in a
manifesto. You may take this to mean any of:
* If elected I don't intend to change anything really
* This pseudo political stuff is too complicated for me to follow
* BRANES
Happy Voting
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mail p5p directly and see if they mark it as a duplicate/fix it.
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always try
Devel::LeakTrace (if the something is SVs) or valgrind (if the
something is regular malloced blocks).
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