[Lsr] Éric Vyncke's Yes on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-bfd-strict-mode-09: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Éric Vyncke via Datatracker
Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-bfd-strict-mode-09: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to

Re: [Lsr] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-bfd-strict-mode-08: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Ketan Talaulikar
Hi Roman, The changes discussed are reflected in the updated version posted: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-bfd-strict-mode-09 Thanks, Ketan On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 1:56 PM Ketan Talaulikar wrote: > Hi Roman, > > Thanks for your review and please check inline below

[Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-bfd-strict-mode-09.txt

2022-10-04 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Link State Routing WG of the IETF. Title : OSPF BFD Strict-Mode Authors : Ketan Talaulikar Peter Psenak

Re: [Lsr] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Ketan Talaulikar
Hi Rob/Acee, Thanks for your suggestions. We've just posted an update with the changes as discussed: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-07 Thanks, Ketan On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 10:27 PM Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Rob, > > > > *From: *"Rob Wilton (rwilton)"

Re: [Lsr] Éric Vyncke's Yes on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Ketan Talaulikar
Hi Eric, We've just posted an update that includes the changes we discussed: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-07 Thanks, Ketan On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 4:28 PM Ketan Talaulikar wrote: > Hi Eric, > > IMHO the reference to IEEE801.1AX needs to be normative.

Re: [Lsr] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Ketan Talaulikar
Hi Roman, Thanks for your review and please check inline below for responses. We've just posted an update: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-07 On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 1:39 AM Roman Danyliw via Datatracker < nore...@ietf.org> wrote: > Roman Danyliw has entered

Re: [Lsr] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Ketan Talaulikar
Hi Lars, We've just posted an update that includes the text as discussed: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-07 I hope that this addresses your DISCUSS. Thanks, Ketan On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 3:44 PM Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Ketan, et al, > > > > *From:

[Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-07.txt

2022-10-04 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Link State Routing WG of the IETF. Title : Advertising Layer 2 Bundle Member Link Attributes in OSPF Authors : Ketan Talaulikar

Re: [Lsr] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Adrian Farrel
Hi all, I'm going to say what I can remember before I read the thread. I was PCE co-chair as this work went through. There was a feeling that using the IGPs for carrying "stuff" was not a wise idea. It was one thing to exchange information that all participants in the protocol needed to

[Lsr] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Roman Danyliw via Datatracker
Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer

Re: [Lsr] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
John - So you are suggesting that Section 4 of the draft be modified to say: "This introduction of additional sub-TLVs should be viewed as an exception to the [RFC5088][RFC5089] policy, justified by the requirement to discover the PCEP security support prior to establishing a PCEP session. The

Re: [Lsr] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread John Scudder
Hi Les, Thanks, that’s helpful. One comment, regarding > Hard for me to justify modifying RFC 5088/5089 simply to add a pointer to > GENINFO/OSPF-GT even if such an addition might be relevant. what I was actually suggesting was that the paragraph in

Re: [Lsr] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
John - Thanx for finding the old email thread. Folks also might want to look at this thread: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lsr/NhezQqKwIvHK_9dDUmW0iuhyjDA/ In summary, I raised these points when the draft was adopted - but eventually agreed to allow the draft to go forward. The

Re: [Lsr] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread John Scudder
Hi Acee, Thanks. I have a few followups (addressed to the WG at large, not just you). First, your point relates to OSPF. In the mail thread I cited, Les is talking about IS-IS. Are the concerns there similar? Second, you say "For non-routing information or advertising more information without

Re: [Lsr] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking as long-time LSR/OSPF WG Member and Co-author of RFC 4970 and RFC 7770: When RFC 5088 was being standardized, there was concern over both advertising non-routing information in OSPF and exceeding the maximum size of an OSPF Router Information LSA which was limited to a single LSA

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv-01.txt

2022-10-04 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Tony – We don’t agree – but that isn’t news. Let me try to start a meaningful discussion. Using the protocol to send what is best described as some subset of a PICS means that we propose to use the IGP flooding mechanism to send static information which the protocol itself cannot (and should

Re: [Lsr] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread John Scudder
Hi Everyone, +Adrian since he appears to have been the shepherd for RFC 5088, which is the root of Lars’ DISCUSS. +Hannes, Les, JP, Meral as people who may have more context on the question Since I haven’t seen any replies to this DISCUSS yet I did a little digging. The text in question:

Re: [Lsr] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Rob, From: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" Date: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 11:51 AM To: Acee Lindem , Ketan Talaulikar Cc: The IESG , "draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bund...@ietf.org" , "lsr-cha...@ietf.org" , "lsr@ietf.org" , Christian Hopps Subject: RE: Robert Wilton's No Objection on

[Lsr] Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Robert Wilton via Datatracker
Robert Wilton has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-11: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.)

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv-01.txt

2022-10-04 Thread Tony Li
Hi all, > On Oct 3, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Christian Hopps wrote: > > > [As wg-member] > > I think the draft should include a table of all top level TLVS as rows and > for columns we have > > - "Implicit Single TLV Only" (e.g., no key info) > - "Implicit Multi-TLV Only" > - "Explicit Single

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv-01.txt

2022-10-04 Thread Robert Raszuk
Tony & Les, I do think we should be signalling node's enabled/active capabilities including the ability to process various types of encoded PDUs in band. I do not believe in live management planes. Sure getting stats, config push etc ... it is all doable and deployed. But dynamic configuration

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv-01.txt

2022-10-04 Thread Tony Li
Hi Les, > Folks may well complain that management tools are not as good as they need to > be, but trying to compensate for this by adding management information into > the protocol itself isn’t a good solution. It is not a good solution. But it is the only practical solution available. At

Re: [Lsr] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Rob Wilton (rwilton)
Hi Acee, Ketan, One other alternative could be to add an Informative reference to the base OSPF YANG module (that is about to be an RFC), and indicate that the configuration is expected to be an update or augmentation to that base OSPF YANG module? Is there somewhere for these new config knobs

Re: [Lsr] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Ketan, From: Ketan Talaulikar Date: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 10:44 AM To: Acee Lindem Cc: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" , The IESG , "draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bund...@ietf.org" , "lsr-cha...@ietf.org" , "lsr@ietf.org" , Christian Hopps Subject: Re: Robert Wilton's No Objection on

Re: [Lsr] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Ketan Talaulikar
Hi Acee, Thanks for your quick response. My question was : Can we put an informative reference to https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-yang-augmentation-v1/ (of which you are co-author) in the OSPF L2 Bundles draft? This assumes that an upcoming version of this augmentation-v1

Re: [Lsr] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Ketan, See inlie. From: Ketan Talaulikar Date: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 10:23 AM To: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" Cc: The IESG , "draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bund...@ietf.org" , "lsr-cha...@ietf.org" , "lsr@ietf.org" , Christian Hopps , Acee Lindem Subject: Re: Robert Wilton's No Objection on

Re: [Lsr] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Ketan Talaulikar
Hi Rob, Thanks for your review and please check inline below for responses. The updates as discussed below will be included in the next update. On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 3:14 PM Robert Wilton via Datatracker < nore...@ietf.org> wrote: > Robert Wilton has entered the following ballot position for

Re: [Lsr] Éric Vyncke's Yes on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Ketan Talaulikar
Hi Eric, IMHO the reference to IEEE801.1AX needs to be normative. FWIW, this is the case also in RFC8668 that provides the similar functionality in ISIS. Thanks, Ketan On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 4:23 PM Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote: > Hello Ketan > > > > Thank you for your quick reply and the

Re: [Lsr] Éric Vyncke's Yes on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
Hello Ketan Thank you for your quick reply and the updated document. I am still unclear, though, that IEEE802.1AX is normative or informative. Nothing critical anyway. Regards -éric From: Ketan Talaulikar Date: Tuesday, 4 October 2022 at 11:03 To: Eric Vyncke Cc: The IESG ,

Re: [Lsr] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Ketan, et al, From: Ketan Talaulikar Date: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 4:34 AM To: Lars Eggert Cc: The IESG , "draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bund...@ietf.org" , "lsr-cha...@ietf.org" , "lsr@ietf.org" , Christian Hopps , Acee Lindem , John Scudder Subject: Re: Lars Eggert's Discuss on

[Lsr] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Robert Wilton via Datatracker
Robert Wilton has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer

Re: [Lsr] Éric Vyncke's Yes on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Ketan Talaulikar
Hi Eric, Thanks for your review and please check inline below for responses. The changes as discussed below will reflect in the next draft update. On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 1:20 PM Éric Vyncke via Datatracker wrote: > Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for >

Re: [Lsr] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Ketan Talaulikar
Hi Lars, Thanks for your confirmation. Acee/John, I haven't received any response (objection or support) from the WG on this change. I believe this may be a good interim step until the WG considers any IANA registry reorganization. Can you please share your views as shepherd and AD respectively?

Re: [Lsr] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-bfd-strict-mode-08: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Ketan Talaulikar
Hi Roman, Thanks for your review and please check inline below for responses. The changes as discussed below will reflect in the next update of the draft. On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 11:27 PM Roman Danyliw via Datatracker < nore...@ietf.org> wrote: > Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot

Re: [Lsr] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-24: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Roman, thanks for your comments, please see inline (##PP): On 03/10/2022 22:09, Roman Danyliw via Datatracker wrote: Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-24: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all

[Lsr] Éric Vyncke's Yes on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-04 Thread Éric Vyncke via Datatracker
Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv-01.txt

2022-10-04 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Chris - Inline. > -Original Message- > From: Christian Hopps > Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:52 PM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > Cc: Christian Hopps ; Robert Raszuk > ; Tony Li ; Henk Smit > ; lsr@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for