Re: [Ltsp-discuss] DRBL alongside LTSP?

2009-02-26 Thread Appiah
Hello Never heard of DRBL (did a quick google but didnt say me much). I do use LTSP for auth with Samba/LDAP when users login with likewise Also pam-mount (http://pam-mount.sourceforge.net/ It can mount user specfic shares... /// Appiah On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Peter Hartmann

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Gavin McCullagh
Hi, On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Richard Doyle wrote: Bootchart ( http://www.bootchart.org/ ) might be very useful. There is a useful discussion at http://www.gnome.org/~lcolitti/gnome-startup/analysis/ In case it's of help, there's an article on bootchart with ltsp below. It's a little out-dated,

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Gavin McCullagh
Hi, On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, José Queiroz wrote: That's a really interesting coincidence: I'm working on a very light kernel. I'll do the first real test tomorrow, with some P-150 terminals. Any sugestions on how to measure the results are welcome. I guess the output of free might be a start.

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] DRBL alongside LTSP?

2009-02-26 Thread David Van Assche
The answer is no. In fact if you have installed DRBL, it is very difficult to get rid of it and use LTSP without starting from scratch with a new system. Both use tftp and the dhcpd server, so without some major tinkering it wouldn't be possible to have these run along side each other as they do

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] need help crafting an rc script for thin client logoff

2009-02-26 Thread Michael Blinn
By the way, if anyone uses these scripts there are few syntactical issues in them. - Also, be advised that synchronizing via rsync (especially using checksums and compression) will really kill slower servers/IO channels when your number of concurrent users gets up there. ...not that I found that

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Angel Martin Alganza
Hello, On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 04:58:45PM -0500, Jim McQuillan wrote: What we ended up with is a pretty complete Linux environment running on a thin client, net-booted from a Linux server. For the newer hardware out there, based on the Via and Atom chipsets, it's pretty good. users get

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread jyoung
I think another significant factor is that XOrg is no longer being developed with our usage in mind. In the beginning, XWindows was developed as a REMOTE display. In an attempt to capture the Desktop PC market, I think much of the functionality that made XWindows suited for network based

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread jyoung
Angel Martin Alganza a...@ugr.es wrote on 02/26/2009 08:52:34 AM: Hello, On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 04:58:45PM -0500, Jim McQuillan wrote: What we ended up with is a pretty complete Linux environment running on a thin client, net-booted from a Linux server. For the newer hardware out

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Rob Owens
I just tested a few PII's at home. None gave a satisfactory experience, but they did boot. My main problem was video-card related. On some cards, X would fail to load. On the other cards, I was given a terrible screen resolution (800x600 or less on my 18 lcd). One of the PII's had Xubuntu

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Rob Owens
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:00:43AM -0600, jyo...@oreillyauto.com wrote: I think another significant factor is that XOrg is no longer being developed with our usage in mind. In the beginning, XWindows was developed as a REMOTE display. In an attempt to capture the Desktop PC market, I Is

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Rob Owens
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:14:44AM -0600, jyo...@oreillyauto.com wrote: Angel Martin Alganza a...@ugr.es wrote on 02/26/2009 08:52:34 AM: Hello, On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 04:58:45PM -0500, Jim McQuillan wrote: What we ended up with is a pretty complete Linux environment running on

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Jordan Erickson
*clap clap clap clap* jyo...@oreillyauto.com wrote: I think another significant factor is that XOrg is no longer being developed with our usage in mind. In the beginning, XWindows was developed as a REMOTE display. In an attempt to capture the Desktop PC market, I think much of the

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Άλκης Γεωργόπουλ ος
With Celerons @450 MHz, 64 Mb RAM, S3 video cards with 8 Mb VideoRAM, and new 19 Samsung TFT monitors I'm able to watch this video: http://movies.apple.com/movies/dreamworks/kung_fu_panda/kung_fu_panda-tlr1_h640w.mov full screen at 1440x900 with totem at all my 8 clients simultaneously with no

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread José Queiroz
2009/2/26 jyo...@oreillyauto.com: I think another significant factor is that XOrg is no longer being developed with our usage in mind.  In the beginning, XWindows was developed as a REMOTE display.  In an attempt to capture the Desktop PC market, I think much of the functionality that made

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Richard Doyle
On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 12:52 -0800, john wrote: Hi all, One of the reasons I originally found LTSP compelling was the modest specs required of the thin clients. Lately I've been feeling like my flavor of Linux/LTSP (ubuntu) has entered the same kind of systems requirement arms-race that I

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Scott Balneaves
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:48:15PM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: snip ... On the other cards, I was given a terrible screen resolution (800x600 or less on my 18 lcd). And this backs up my point, to a certain extent. When I started using LTSP back in late 1999, 800x600 was the good resolution,

[Ltsp-discuss] kiwi on opensuse11.1 / usb troubles on server

2009-02-26 Thread jef peeraer
got this working on a amd opteron machine ( 64bit). without kiwi, i could connect a usbdisk and use it on the server. now with kiwi-ltsp installed, i can plug the usb-disk in a thinclient, which is of course, very nice, but i can't plug it in the server anymore. is this a side-effect of

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
Hi Scott Scott Balneaves wrote: snip We might be able to come up with a scaled back kernel for each distro, and a hand crafted set of udev rules, but in the long run, it's a bit of a losing battle. And it's not like we haven't seen this before. The old 486 with 16 megs of ram didn't

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Rob Owens
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 02:45:10PM -0600, Scott Balneaves wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:48:15PM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: snip ... On the other cards, I was given a terrible screen resolution (800x600 or less on my 18 lcd). And this backs up my point, to a certain extent. When

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Jim McQuillan
Rob Owens wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 02:45:10PM -0600, Scott Balneaves wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:48:15PM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: snip ... On the other cards, I was given a terrible screen resolution (800x600 or less on my 18 lcd). And this backs up my point, to a certain

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Nicholas Metsovon
Just out of curiosity, from what I understand, there are a number of window managers and at least one desktop (xfce) out there that, from what I understand, don't need X to operate. There's also FreeNX, that I thought someone said doesn't need X. And I think it was about seven or eight years

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Rob Owens
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:00:34PM -0500, Jim McQuillan wrote: Rob Owens wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 02:45:10PM -0600, Scott Balneaves wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:48:15PM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: snip ... On the other cards, I was given a terrible screen resolution

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Rob Owens
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 07:09:03PM -0800, Nicholas Metsovon wrote: I was surprised that LTSP took the turn towards the LTSP 5 direction. From a user's perspective, I would have thought that the pre-version 5 approach would have been easier for the LTSP developers, since they, I would

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Nicholas Metsovon
So what about my idea of utilizing the lightweight distros for the chroot? If somebody can give me some guidelines about how it would work, and what the distro maintainers would need to do, I'll start joining their mailing lists. I've got no job for the next 2 weeks -- I'll get right to

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread john
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Nicholas Metsovon nmets...@yahoo.com wrote: Just out of curiosity, from what I understand, there are a number of window managers and at least one desktop (xfce) out there that, from what I understand, don't need X to operate.  There's also FreeNX, that I

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Robert Arkiletian
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote: So what about my idea of utilizing the lightweight distros for the chroot? If somebody can give me some guidelines about how it would work, and what the distro maintainers would need to do, I'll start joining their mailing

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Nicholas Metsovon
If you still want DSL I think DRBL has the ability to pxe boot DSL. What's DRBL? A link to it would be greatly appreciated! (I'd like to see what the options are.) Oh, and just from the website, Slax looks like it might be a real good approach for older hardware, too. It looks exactly

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is it time for LTSP-lite?

2009-02-26 Thread Robert Arkiletian
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Nicholas Metsovon nmets...@yahoo.com wrote: If you still want DSL I think DRBL has the ability to pxe boot DSL. What's DRBL?  A link to it would be greatly appreciated! http://drbl.sourceforge.net/ -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver,