Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to disable/limit pixmap cache in X

2007-11-21 Thread Ondrej Valousek
You do not understand me. I understand the client might seem to "freeze" when loading this crappy page - just because it is forced to swap intensively. I also understand the whole pixmap/firefox story - I have read it carefully. Most important is, that eventually my client freezes completely forev

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to disable/limit pixmap cache in X

2007-11-21 Thread Jim Kronebusch
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:51:27 +0100, Ondrej Valousek wrote > Ok, > to be more exact: > My client has 512Mb RAM + 1Gb swap. I launch firefox and this page: > http://www.carteretcountyschools.org/bms/teacherwebs/sdavenport/artgallery6.htm > makes the machine crash completely. > Try to replicate. > Ond

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to disable/limit pixmap cache in X

2007-11-21 Thread Craig White
You got to be kidding... The web site spools the full large scale image for each image and it takes forever to download each one. You would die of old age before that page gets fully downloaded. Perhaps it might be better to consider the problem is really poorly designed web site. Craig On Wed

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to disable/limit pixmap cache in X

2007-11-21 Thread Ondrej Valousek
Ok, to be more exact: My client has 512Mb RAM + 1Gb swap. I launch firefox and this page: http://www.carteretcountyschools.org/bms/teacherwebs/sdavenport/artgallery6.htm makes the machine crash completely. Try to replicate. Ondrej Jim McQuillan wrote: > Ondrej Valousek wrote: > >>> Also a worka

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to disable/limit pixmap cache in X

2007-11-21 Thread Jim McQuillan
Ondrej Valousek wrote: >> Also a workaround is the increase of NBD swap. I run 512MB RAM in my >> clients now, and >> 512MB swap for them as well. Also the tweak to not allow an application to >> consume more >> than 80% or so of client RAM should be included in Gutsy, so at least your >> cl

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to disable/limit pixmap cache in X

2007-11-21 Thread Ondrej Valousek
> Also a workaround is the increase of NBD swap. I run 512MB RAM in my clients > now, and > 512MB swap for them as well. Also the tweak to not allow an application to > consume more > than 80% or so of client RAM should be included in Gutsy, so at least your > clients won't > freeze. > >

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to disable/limit pixmap cache in X

2007-11-19 Thread Xavier Brochard
Le Monday 19 November 2007 21:24:55 Frank Cox, vous avez écrit : > On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:15:43 +0100 > > Xavier Brochard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The same problem exist with Kpdf > > I was trying out kpdf the other day on my LTSP terminal and it kept locking > up so tight that I had to reboo

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to disable/limit pixmap cache in X

2007-11-19 Thread Jim Kronebusch
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:24:55 -0600, Frank Cox wrote > On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:15:43 +0100 > Xavier Brochard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The same problem exist with Kpdf > > I was trying out kpdf the other day on my LTSP terminal and it kept locking up > so tight that I had to reboot my termin

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to disable/limit pixmap cache in X

2007-11-19 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:15:43 +0100 Xavier Brochard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The same problem exist with Kpdf I was trying out kpdf the other day on my LTSP terminal and it kept locking up so tight that I had to reboot my terminal. It sounds like that must have the problem. Is there any way

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to disable/limit pixmap cache in X

2007-11-19 Thread Xavier Brochard
Le Monday 19 November 2007 20:11:41 Jim Kronebusch, vous avez écrit : > On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:23:12 -0500, Francis Giraldeau wrote > > We are aware of this problem for years now. It does affect Firefox, but > > other major applications like OpenOffice. > > You are absolutely correct Francis, I see

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to disable/limit pixmap cache in X

2007-11-19 Thread Jim Kronebusch
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:23:12 -0500, Francis Giraldeau wrote > Hi, > > We are aware of this problem for years now. It does affect Firefox, but > other major applications like OpenOffice. You are absolutely correct Francis, I see similar problems with OpenOffice, just not near as often. > So, Fir

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to disable/limit pixmap cache in X

2007-11-19 Thread Francis Giraldeau
Hi, We are aware of this problem for years now. It does affect Firefox, but other major applications like OpenOffice. I did post on Firefox, OpenOffice and LTSP mailing list : http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.firefox/browse_thread/thread/eaa9f5f1ea7c3835/707f615365abcd43?lnk=gst#7

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to disable/limit pixmap cache in X

2007-11-19 Thread Ondrej Valousek
Jim Kronebusch wrote: > On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:49:31 +0100, Ondrej Valousek wrote > >> Hi Jim, >> Any success with the Xorg guys? >> > > Not really. A handful of ideas were passed around, but in all they still > think this is > not their problem. I tend to disagree, as their X server sho

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to disable/limit pixmap cache in X

2007-11-19 Thread Jim Kronebusch
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:49:31 +0100, Ondrej Valousek wrote > Hi Jim, > Any success with the Xorg guys? Not really. A handful of ideas were passed around, but in all they still think this is not their problem. I tend to disagree, as their X server should not allow clients to crash itbuy sinc

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to disable/limit pixmap cache in X

2007-11-17 Thread jam
On Sat, 2007-11-17 at 12:06 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, I am already using 512M on the clients - still not enough in > many > cases :-( > Anyway Ondrej Of course there will be examples; what business sites crap out with 512M? Really trying to break the TCs I managed 128M and 256M

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to disable/limit pixmap cache in X

2007-11-16 Thread Ondrej Valousek
Well, I am already using 512M on the clients - still not enough in many cases :-( Anyway jam wrote: > On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 10:16 -0800, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Hi Jim, >> Any success with the Xorg guys? >> >> " >> Am I making any sense here? I'll admit I don't really know much of >

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to disable/limit pixmap cache in X

2007-11-16 Thread jam
On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 10:16 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Jim, > Any success with the Xorg guys? > > " > Am I making any sense here? I'll admit I don't really know much of > anything about how X > > works, and as a result I have no real knowledge on how this should be > fixed. All I do >

[Ltsp-discuss] How to disable/limit pixmap cache in X

2007-11-16 Thread Ondrej Valousek
Hi Jim, Any success with the Xorg guys? " Am I making any sense here? I'll admit I don't really know much of anything about how X works, and as a result I have no real knowledge on how this should be fixed. All I do know is this is a huge problem that seems to be rapidly getting worse and is c