[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread David Tayler
Daniel, Don't retire before your production of "Litho Terpsichore" I live for the stone scene. dt At 05:09 PM 3/15/2008, you wrote: >That's twice now my name has appeared in the same sentence as Barto >and O'Dette. Time to frame the post and retire, I've accomplished all >I could hope for in t

[LUTE] Banchieri

2008-03-15 Thread David Tayler
One of the really interesting things about about the Banchieri is Arto's use of "Italian Inegal", a kind of rubato that reflects the underlying accents and rhythms of Italian. Also the inequality is varied in a way that mirrors the differences in the madrigal texts. Also in the contnuo playing i

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread David Rastall
On Mar 15, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: >> On Mar 15, 2008, at 7:58 PM, igor . wrote: >>> David don't be rasist >> If you're going to accuse me of being racist, Igor, at least learn >> to spell proper English. ;-) > Michael Thames never could, and never will. > RT Roman, Michael T

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread Roman Turovsky
On Mar 15, 2008, at 7:58 PM, igor . wrote: David don't be rasist If you're going to accuse me of being racist, Igor, at least learn to spell proper English. ;-) Michael Thames never could, and never will. RT == http://polyhymnion.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes. To get

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread David Rastall
On Mar 15, 2008, at 7:58 PM, igor . wrote: > David don't be rasist If you're going to accuse me of being racist, Igor, at least learn to spell proper English. ;-) > : Schall and Barto or O'dette ans Shoskes together , > why not ? they all play tempo moderato and mezzo piano all their lives I

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread Edward Martin
Congratulations, Danny! ed At 08:09 PM 3/15/2008 -0400, Daniel Shoskes wrote: >That's twice now my name has appeared in the same sentence as Barto >and O'Dette. Time to frame the post and retire, I've accomplished all >I could hope for in the lute world!! > >On Mar 15, 2008, at 7:58 PM, igor . w

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread Daniel Shoskes
That's twice now my name has appeared in the same sentence as Barto and O'Dette. Time to frame the post and retire, I've accomplished all I could hope for in the lute world!! On Mar 15, 2008, at 7:58 PM, igor . wrote: thanks Diego ! Pianca is now dead for me.There is no historical evidence

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread Sean Smith
On Mar 15, 2008, at 4:58 PM, igor . wrote: thanks Diego ! Pianca is now dead for me.There is no historical evidence for Swiss as a lutenist Ha! No historical evidence that Americans played ren lute either. Let's not start any "Paul is dead" rumors, ok? Sean To get on or off this list

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread igor .
thanks Diego ! Pianca is now dead for me.There is no historical evidence for Swiss as a lutenist David don't be rasist : Schall and Barto or O'dette ans Shoskes together , why not ? they all play tempo moderato and mezzo piano all their lives we all also know that theorbo was double strung. we also

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread David Rastall
On Mar 15, 2008, at 6:01 PM, igor . wrote: > They are Italians indeed ! What's wrong with that ? > Except for lute player who is as bad as my dead dog ! That's a bit strong isn't it? Enough to discourage anyone from wanting to share his/her music with the rest of the lute world. > One should

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread wikla
On 3/16/2008, "igor ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, apart from your "Giuliani " style continuo, i can see you distaste for > good, quality instruments : so , any stringing you use fits your poor > technique and bad instruments you play. Well, tell that to Stephen Barber... :-) Arto To

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread igor .
Well, apart from your "Giuliani " style continuo, i can see you distaste for good, quality instruments : so , any stringing you use fits your poor technique and bad instruments you play. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread wikla
On 3/16/2008, "igor ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Banchieri is fail because your continuo sounds much "alla Mauro Giuliani". > > that's what i think Arto. And what is your comment of me using only the "synthetic" string materials? Nylgut, "carbon", even nylon and even sometimes old Pyramid w

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread igor .
Banchieri is fail because your continuo sounds much "alla Mauro Giuliani". that's what i think Arto. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread wikla
On 3/16/2008, "igor ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They are Italians indeed ! What's wrong with that ? > Except for lute player who is as bad as my dead dog ! > One should play lute with no nails and double strung ! No other way ! > Barto, Valery , O'Dette , Shoskes,Tyler , Schall, Wikla use no

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread David Tayler
In my group we often play french music at A=370. 370 is a good pitch for french music, higher than 340 anyway. 392 is the max., and at this pitch muddiness can creep in. Another way to look at it is the strange situation that the 465 theorbo the top string (the second course) is is 349 HZ and a

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread Shaun Ng
Let's not read too deep into Igor's comments. I think this was directed to me, at my audacity in suggesting that I may know better. While I am well capable of performing Forqueray, I think to record a version of my own online with the sole purpose to prove that I can interpret Forqueray "better" is

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread igor .
-- Forwarded message -- From: igor . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Forqueray To: David Tayler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "lute-cs. dartmouth. edu" They are Italians indeed ! What's wrong with that ? Except for lute player who is as

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread igor .
They are Italians indeed ! What's wrong with that ? Except for lute player who is as bad as my dead dog ! One should play lute with no nails and double strung ! No other way ! Barto, Valery , O'Dette , Shoskes,Tyler , Schall, Wikla use no nails watch their great performances on youtube and compar

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread wikla
On 3/15/2008, "David Tayler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not saying there are mistakes, I think it is interesting on a > number of levels, these are good players, so they are making artistic choices. Well, yes, I just wrote "mistakes" in parentheses... Your analysis (better word?) was good.

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread David Tayler
I'm not saying there are mistakes, I think it is interesting on a number of levels, these are good players, so they are making artistic choices. I think it is totally OK to learn from the video, beacause it raises such interesting issues. I'm going to recommend it as a continuo study, and of cour

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-15 Thread David Tayler
y really are very cool. > > > > > > dt > > > > > > > > At 08:42 AM 3/15/2008, you wrote: > > >Hi David, > > >I thought that one benefits in high resolution recording because there is > > >some room left for mastering like re

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread wikla
On 3/15/2008, "igor ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i agree ! > please do that, record your version and show to the italians you can do > better and historically more accurate. I am kind of allergic only of two points in this longish essay: 1) "show to the italians you can do better": To me this

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-15 Thread Peter Martin
27;t loose > >quality in the end. Obviously this is more important when we deal with > rock > >or pop music where we have lots of effects involved, but still unless one > >records just the dry signal I think it's better to have some more bits in > >the beginning

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread igor .
i agree ! please do that, record your version and show to the italians you can do better and historically more accurate. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread David Tayler
I think this is a great video to look at to study continuo. Because the lute often is doubling the leading tones and other notes, you can see and develop a hearing sense for this sound, then you can decide if you like it. I want to make it clear that this is not a criticism, it just is unusual

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-15 Thread David Tayler
rds just the dry signal I think it's better to have some more bits in >the beginning don't you? Do correct me if I am wrong. >Best >Jaroslaw > > >__ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >database 2949 (20080315) __ > >

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread Shaun Ng
Anyone else notice how the continuo part sounds redundant at times as the viol is almost always playing it's own accompaniment? The archlute is rarely playing the bass either. Yes, theorbo would have been nicer. Historically more accurate and would definitely sound better. On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread Are Vidar Boye Hansen
> Very ineresting performance > I think I would choose the theorbo over the archlute because of the > desire to keep the accompaniment a bit lower. > Also there are an awful lot of doublings of the harmony. I can't see > doing that. > > But mainly, if I played this on the archlute, I would play

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread David Tayler
Very ineresting performance I think I would choose the theorbo over the archlute because of the desire to keep the accompaniment a bit lower. Also there are an awful lot of doublings of the harmony. I can't see doing that. But mainly, if I played this on the archlute, I would play the whole

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread igor .
uurgghhh : N A I L S ! "nur barto soll die laute spilelen" valery &co auch -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread Mathias Rösel
"Daniel F Heiman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Antoine Forqueray "La Couperin" on viol + archlute. > > http://www.youtube.com/v/Av20FgeJIok&hl > > Passionate playing. Looks like it may be copyrighted material, so catch > it quick before it disappears. Thank you so much. I'd love to save movie

[LUTE] Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread Daniel F Heiman
Antoine Forqueray "La Couperin" on viol + archlute. http://www.youtube.com/v/Av20FgeJIok&hl Passionate playing. Looks like it may be copyrighted material, so catch it quick before it disappears. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/ind

[LUTE] Re: How to become a great lute player...

2008-03-15 Thread igor .
> > let me tell you fellas : > he'll never be good as valery & co. > > -- > -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-15 Thread Jarosław Lipski
still unless one records just the dry signal I think it's better to have some more bits in the beginning don't you? Do correct me if I am wrong. Best Jaroslaw __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 2949 (20080315) __ The message was

[LUTE] Re: Goldberg Prize

2008-03-15 Thread howard posner
On Mar 15, 2008, at 5:55 AM, Benjamin Narvey wrote: > The > fact that a "generalist" early music magazine chose my submission > bodes well > for us, in that it seems a kind of litmus test showing the interest > given > the lute from civilian non-pluckers. Or perhaps yours was just far and a

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-15 Thread dc
Thanks, David, for all the further information. Very helpful! >For $100 or less you can get a sound card for a laptop or PC that has >exceptional sound. Do you have any specific recommendations? Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-a

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-15 Thread David Tayler
CDs are 44.1/16 bit, and 44.1 is a "bad fraction". In converting 44.1/24 to CD, the music is organized into blocks, and the extra bits are tossed (remember that they can be used for gain), but if you record at 44.1 you then can get almost exactly that info onto the CD. If you record at 48, you h

[LUTE] Re: Amateur recordings

2008-03-15 Thread dc
Warmest thanks, David, for all the detailed explanations. Much appreciated by the dummy I am! >In this case, you will want 48/24 unless you wish to make a CD >recording, for that you need 44.1/24. Does this mean that one can only burn this type of file to an audio CD? Thanks again! Dennis