Dear Roman,
The paper is indeed interesting, although I cannot be sure who wrote it.
In the paper, you are referred to as Roman Turovsky-Savchuk. Is this
really your full name? If so, is your choice of the name Sautscheck
for your own compositions, derived from the last part of your name?
A few
There were the wax tablets, but it seems likely that there were
multiple systems for compositions.
Sketches on paper show, obviously, that paper was used for sketches.
These systems could have been used in combination
Surely the keyboard was used by many composers
Dowland most likely composed for
Le 7 juin 08 à 21:02, Martin Shepherd a écrit :
Dear Jaroslaw,
I agree with everything you say - but my problem has always been
that (a) I wanted to know how the old guys really did it and (b) I
didn't like any of the options that were available. I admit that
(a) is not necessarily
Stewart,
I expect Roman will answer properly, but Sautscheck is the surname of his
grand mother. I saw a tomb with this name on it in Prague, in the cemetery
of important persons, apparently it's a common name.
In Italian all this ( wondering about the hidden meanings of it etc) is
called
From: Stewart McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Roman,
The paper is indeed interesting, although I cannot be sure who wrote it.
One Dan Hill, a violinist.
In the paper, you are referred to as Roman Turovsky-Savchuk. Is this
really your full name? If so, is your choice of the name Sautscheck
for
From: Stewart McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Roman,
The paper is indeed interesting, although I cannot be sure who wrote it.
One Dan Hill, a violinist.
In the paper, you are referred to as Roman Turovsky-Savchuk. Is this
really your full name? If so, is your choice of the name Sautscheck
for
Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
A few years ago, I told a friend about your compositions for lute, and
how you used the pseudonym Sautscheck. He was much amused. He is a
retired lecturer in German, and so is familiar with the German language.
He said that Sautscheck has certain
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From: Mathias Rösel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
A few years ago, I told a friend about your compositions for lute, and
how you used the pseudonym Sautscheck. He was much amused. He is a
retired lecturer in German, and so is
Damian
I suppose you do know the work of Partizio Barbieri, and I assume
you do not agree with his findings about Roman and Neapolitan gut
string ropes.
Patrizio Barbieri: Roman and Neapolitan gut strings, 1550-1590, GSJ,
May 2006, pp 176-7. PB appears to have shown that roped
Hi Martyn,
I just talked to Mimmo. He explained that the tension of 0.9 till 1.2 Kg
came out from mathematical calculations made by Ephraim Segerman considering
the bridge holes of surviving lutes. He calculated some 1.2 till 1.5 Kg. but
this was made considered the density of a low twist gut
Sorry I forgot to say, the new Piece of the Month is in the usual place:
www.luteshop.co.uk/month/pieceofthemonth.htm
I also forgot to apologize for the lack of an MP3 for the second piece -
I just felt it was too much of a handful to play on 9c, when it's
written for 10.
Martin
To get
Dear Donatella,
Thanks for your message. I'm afraid I made the same old mistake of
mixing up the various lists. Roman's message was to the Baroque Lute
Net, and I accidentally replied to the Lute Net. His original message
was:
An interesting paper from Cambridge-
Jaroslaw and Martyn
I believe the difference in calculation comes from Martyn using a
stiffish high twist (rather than a rope). This can possibly be pushed
through quite a narrow hole, where a flexible rope would not go through.
Mimmo is taking the calculation for a rope diameter as being
Oh I may have misunderstood. I thought Segerman's calculations were
with a rope, but if they were with a low twist then the results Mimmo
and Segerman mention include Martyn's results at between 1,2kg and
1,5kg,
Martyn is just at the higher side of this calculation. It remains
that the
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From: howard posner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008 8:39 pm
Subject: [LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?
To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
On Jun 6, 2008, at 5:37 AM, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote:
My
Dear Martin,
on your web page you say:
Altogether it appears in nine sources
Well, I have:
Source Page/No.Title in source
Schele 64/1 Corante Mercurij A[nn]o 1615.
Schele 87/2 Courante
Aegidius 99rCourante
Basel F.IX.53 11r-12r Courante
402211v/3 [Cou]rant
--- On Sun, 8/6/08, Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: Double headed 12c/loaded/Demi-filé
To: Jarosław Lipski [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL
PROTECTED], lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
On Jun 8, 2008, at 3:03 AM, Stewart McCoy wrote:
I have a vague memory of hearing
that Palestrina had a lute handy when composing.
If you google palestrina lute mass into google (without the quotes)
you should pull up a page of Jessie Ann Owens' The composer at work
from Amazon that
Thanks Martyn for these precisions.
It seems a fair point to say that technique has to adapt to a string
type. Indeed loaded strings also call for a change in technique. I
have found that even with the loaded string on my 7c, very much as
people have been saying of low tension strings, I
Hi Anthony, I don't know Patrizio Barbieri's article. I
will look it up and read it.
But the fact that there was an industry of ropemaking in
every port city, and nearly every
large city, is not evidence that this technology extended to
the art of making music strings
from lamb gut. I
Dear Roman,
Saying that I could not be sure who wrote the paper, was meant as a
joke, since the paper is about dodgy attributions. It is clearly by
Daniel Hill.
I have contacted my German lecturer friend by email, who has kindly
replied at once to explain what he had meant. He writes, Sau is the
Dear Howard,
Many thanks indeed. The Amazon site gives a lot of detail about
Palestrina, and confirms that he used the lute while composing. Jessie
Owens' book certainly looks a good read.
Best wishes,
Stewart.
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From: howard posner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08
He suggests that the -tscheck part of Sautscheck might be
derived from the German word for Czech. He was looking at the word from
a purely etymological point of view.
Please excuse my rude wording, but that is pure non-sense (in the very
sense of the word) because there are no bridges from
Let me assure that the mere Sautscheck word evokes no pejorative
undertones at all to me although the Sau- prefix is pretty common here
and means just what Stewart says. It is not very rude, though. Can be
used talking to your mother-in-law without any risk. Sautscheck merely
sounds
On Jun 8, 2008, at 2:46 PM, Stewart McCoy wrote:
The Amazon site gives a lot of detail about
Palestrina, and confirms that he used the lute while composing. Jessie
Owens' book certainly looks a good read.
I was mistaken in saying it was an Amazon site, BTW. It's Google
Book Search.
--
To
I have contacted my German lecturer friend by email, who has kindly
replied at once to explain what he had meant. He writes, Sau is the
German for sow (as in female pig), but is used frequently as a (fairly
rude) prefix to indicate a pejorative, e.g. Sauwetter (what we have been
getting up to the
From: Mathias Rösel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Besides, the modifying use of the prefix sau- is fairly confined to the
estates of Bavaria, btw not always pejorative (saugut, saugeil). Most
other parts of German speaking countries use Arsch- or Scheisz- instead
(arschkalt, Scheiszwetter, both pretty
Stewart,
You might be happy to know that your neologism has been recorded:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sautscheckerei
RT
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From: Stewart McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 5:38 PM
Subject:
Hi Anthony
Stringmakers use machines to add torsion to strings as they
dry. There are illustrations
of these in Bachmann, Alberto 'Encyclopedia of the Violin'
1925. But they are not the
same as the machines used to make rope.
I don't know what more evidence you don't need. Here is
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