[BAROQUE-LUTE] Lute music by Robert de Visee

2011-10-19 Thread Rob MacKillop
Here is the first video I've made with my new Malcolm Prior 13c [1]http://lutegroup.ning.com/video/tombeau-de-dubut-by-robert-de-visee Not strictly 13c repertoire, but close enough. And not a faultless performance, but I think you get the jist of it. Pinkie on bridge watchers -

[LUTE] BWV 998

2011-10-19 Thread dc
I apologize if this subject has already been discussed here, but I'm wondering if Bach's Prelude (marked Prelude pour la Luth ò Cembal), Fugue Allegro BWV 998 is playable as written (i.e. in E flat major, with all the low bass notes) on a type of lute Bach might have known. If so, what would

[LUTE] Re: BWV 998

2011-10-19 Thread William Samson
I have heard that 'luth o cembal' was perhaps a keyboard instrument that sounded like a lute - I've even heard it suggested that it was a harpsichord strung in gut, but I very much doubt the feasibility of such an instrument - It would be a nightmare to keep in tune, as we lutenists

[LUTE] Re: BWV 998

2011-10-19 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Bill, Amazingly, such instruments actually seemed to have existed; there seems to be evidence that JS Bach owned one (or even two). Modern reconstructions have been made and, indeed, I bought a CD a few years ago of a recital of the luth o cembal works played by Elizabeth

[LUTE] More on the lute-harpsichord (was Re: BWV 998

2011-10-19 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Bill, The following comes from one of the websites related to these instruments. I have not checked the sources myself. Notice that by drawing the lute stop (ie a row of jacks closer to the bridge) the writer says the instruments sounds more lute like - perhaps even more

[LUTE] Re: More on the lute-harpsichord (was Re: BWV 998

2011-10-19 Thread Rob MacKillop
On 19 October 2011 11:12, Martyn Hodgson [1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: . Notice that by drawing the lute stop (ie a row of jacks closer to the bridge) the writer says the instruments sounds more lute like - perhaps even more evidence for us to play our

[LUTE] Re: BWV 998

2011-10-19 Thread Rob MacKillop
Good question, Dennis. Interestingly, as Bach was running out of space, the last 19 bars of the Allegro movement are written in a more concise organ tablature. That would be an odd thing to hand to a lute player to play from! Hopkinson Smith published (Ut Orpheus Edizioni) an

[LUTE] Gabrieli, Andrea - Vieni Flora gentil

2011-10-19 Thread Anton Höger
Hi, I have uploaded a new lute trio for 3 lutes Unisono. with nice diminuitions. Sounds very well. - Gabrieli, Andrea - Vieni Flora gentil -- Enjoy. Anton To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] John Bull

2011-10-19 Thread Anton Höger
Hi, I have uploaded a new lute duett for 2 lutes Unisono. -Bull - Doctor Bull's my selfe (A Gigge) - Enjoy. Anton To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: BWV 998

2011-10-19 Thread Taco Walstra
On 10/19/2011 12:38 PM, Rob MacKillop wrote: Good question, Dennis. Interestingly, as Bach was running out of space, the last 19 bars of the Allegro movement are written in a more concise organ tablature. That would be an odd thing to hand to a lute player to play from!

[LUTE] Monteverdi-Lamento d Arianna

2011-10-19 Thread hera caius
Hello lutenists and guitarists, I was searching a lot for a nice edition of Monteverdi s Arianna for continuo and one voice (the complete thing not only Lasciate mi morire) as I have one but it s not so perfect. I would apreciate if anybody can send me a link or a pdf. Thank

[LUTE] Re: BWV 998

2011-10-19 Thread Christopher Wilke
Taco, --- On Wed, 10/19/11, Taco Walstra wals...@science.uva.nl wrote: BWV995 is also transposed from g to a but this has more to do with the baroque lute string range which will fit better in a when using a 13 course. In modern times, 995 has been transposed from G minor to A minor (Hoppy

[LUTE] Re: BWV 998

2011-10-19 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Hold it there, Bill. Lautenwerk appears to have been a perfectly real instrument. Check out fine recordings of Robert Hill, Geoffrey Thomas (in this case, Bohm's music, not Bach's), Elizabeth Farr, Kim Heindel, etc. on such a thing. In this case, Prelude pour La Luth o Cembal literally

[LUTE] Re: BWV 998

2011-10-19 Thread howard posner
On Oct 19, 2011, at 2:09 AM, William Samson wrote: I have heard that 'luth o cembal' was perhaps a keyboard instrument that sounded like a lute - I've even heard it suggested that it was a harpsichord strung in gut, but I very much doubt the feasibility of such an instrument - It

[LUTE] Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-19 Thread Rob MacKillop
Here's my first video with my new Malcolm Prior 13c, of a tombeau by Robert de Visee - not quite 13c repertoire, but close enough. YouTube: [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BTu2pLsye0 Or the same on the Ning site: [2]http://lutegroup.ning.com/video/tombeau-de-dubut-by-robert-de-

[LUTE] Re: Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-19 Thread Monica Hall
Lovely piece and really well played. The instrument has a very powerful bass hasn't it. Hope to hear some more soon. Monica - Original Message - From: Rob MacKillop robmackil...@gmail.com To: Lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:15 PM Subject: [LUTE]

[LUTE] Re: Lute matters

2011-10-19 Thread adS
Dear Ron, the rhythm in bar 33 of the Dowland piece is not correct - I think. Cf. bar 41. Rainer adS To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-19 Thread Edward Martin
Nice job, Rob! ed At 12:15 PM 10/19/2011, Rob MacKillop wrote: Here's my first video with my new Malcolm Prior 13c, of a tombeau by Robert de Visee - not quite 13c repertoire, but close enough. YouTube: [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BTu2pLsye0 Or the same on the Ning

[LUTE] Re: Lute matters

2011-10-19 Thread Ron Andrico
Dear Rainer: So nice to hear from you. I wrestled with whether I should fix that measure and decided it works as it stands in the ms. The absence of tablature letters under the rhythm signs can either be treated in the normal manner, as rests, or as tied notes after the initial

[LUTE] Re: Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-19 Thread Ron Andrico
Thanks, Rob. It's really, really nice to hear such good music played on such a great instrument by such a musical player. Congratulations. Ron Donna Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:15:26 +0100 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: robmackil...@gmail.com Subject: [LUTE] Robert de

[LUTE] Re: Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-19 Thread Daniel Winheld
Beautiful! OK- the IMPORTANT lautengeek question: What strings is she wearing? Also, further praise for that great Blind Boy Fuller piece (Meat Shakin' Woman) Same touch, same hand position technique, and open D tuning- pairs perfectly with the de Visee. Even a similar mood/feeling- just the

[LUTE] Re: BWV 998

2011-10-19 Thread sterling price
I have all these recordings of the lute-harpsichord and one thing has bothered me--the baroque lute has octave strings for the bass and the lute harpsichord almost never replicates this so it sounds more like a theorbo. Still fun though. There is even a guy on ebay selling

[LUTE] Re: Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-19 Thread Ed Durbrow
Yeah, I'll mirror those comments. I enjoyed both too. On Oct 20, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Daniel Winheld wrote: Beautiful! OK- the IMPORTANT lautengeek question: What strings is she wearing? Also, further praise for that great Blind Boy Fuller piece (Meat Shakin' Woman) Same touch, same

[LUTE] Re: Bach Chaconne

2011-10-19 Thread Ed Durbrow
Yes, he has an octave on the third course. He told me so. What a performance! Dominic is amazing. Too bad YouTube limits it to 11 minutes. On Oct 20, 2011, at 3:11 AM, Monica Hall wrote: I think he means a fully re-entrant tuning although I thought I detected a high

[LUTE] Re: [Fronimo_editor] Who is korkoliotis

2011-10-19 Thread Edward Martin
His name is Jason Kortis. ed I wanted to give credit to korkoliotis for encoding Daça fantasies. Can someone give me his real name? Thanks! --Sarge __._,_.___ mailto:sa...@gerbode.net?subject=Re%3A%20Who%20is%20korkoliotisReply to sender |

[LUTE] Re: Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-19 Thread wikla
Beautiful pieces beautifully played! Thanks! Arto On 20/10/11 05:24, Ed Durbrow wrote: Yeah, I'll mirror those comments. I enjoyed both too. On Oct 20, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Daniel Winheld wrote: Beautiful! OK- the IMPORTANT lautengeek question: What strings is she wearing?