At 09:37 PM 12/5/2003 -0500, Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>MO, there is a Paul Revere Trophy "for the unsurpassed excellence in e-mail"
>in the snail-mail for you. It is yours to keep forever. We are just non
>interested anymore.
Best news I heard all day! Just keep this non-interest
MO, there is a Paul Revere Trophy "for the unsurpassed excellence in e-mail"
in the snail-mail for you. It is yours to keep forever. We are just non
interested anymore.
RT
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>>> I have to admit that I don't follow the discu
At 08:35 PM 12/5/2003 -0500, Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have to admit that I don't follow the discussion closely and just by
> > accident jumped into this thread (MO's messages are immediatly deleted)
>Likewise, a couple of dozen list messages never reached me, so I went to
>c
At 06:21 PM 12/5/2003 -0500, Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'd rather be a professional socialist, than an amateur
>capitalist
I have no idea what is a professional socialist, but I do know something
about capitalism. I am glad you acknowledge the fact that I am only an
amateur in
However the publishers produce facsimiles not to make money. The facsimiles
make their OTHER books look trustworthy and sellable. In other words the
facsimiles are promotional material to a large degree.
RT
You do have a way with words, well said !!!
>>> Indeed he does. Eve
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From: "Matanya Ophee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: falce and unperfect
> At 03:18 PM 12/5/2003 -0600, Michael Thames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >However the pu
well said!
Don't you get tired of that - how do you call it? Dog fights?
There is no sense discussing with Mantanya - he is an ignorant person
mixing truth and lie at his will. And as a scientist ... better don't
try to decrease on his level of discussion.
Actually I don't believe TREE for insta
> bothered. But once I started, the only way to limit the costs was to drop
> the project. The costs were mainly imposed on me by the library.
Whopping 2 bottles of cognac
RT
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At 06:03 PM 12/5/2003 -0500, Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Distributors and dealers get their discounts off the official "suggested
> > list price".
>MO, we are not children here,
When I see grown men drawn into silly displays of foolish indulgence in
areas they know nothing about
>> However the publishers produce facsimiles not to make money. The facsimiles
>> make their OTHER books look trustworthy and sellable. In other words the
>> facsimiles are promotional material to a large degree.
>> RT
>> You do have a way with words, well said !!!
> Indeed he does. Every demagogu
At 03:18 PM 12/5/2003 -0600, Michael Thames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>However the publishers produce facsimiles not to make money. The facsimiles
>make their OTHER books look trustworthy and sellable. In other words the
>facsimiles are promotional material to a large degree.
>RT
>
> You do
>
> So a publisher that does nothing but facsimiles, like Minkoff for example,
> is using facsimiles to promotes facsimiles?
Madam Minkoff produces NOT facsimilia, BUT replicas of antique books of
various sorts, not necessarily with artistic content, for a totally
different and much larger market.
> Distributors and dealers get their discounts off the official "suggested
> list price".
MO, we are not children here, and we know that this "suggested list price"
is a myth designed to make palatable eventual "NICE PRICE!!! 20% OFF!!!"
label. Moreover, it is determined by marketing research. If
At 04:26 PM 12/5/2003 -0500, Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > but the distribution
> > scheme in place is comprised of the publisher>main distributor>subsidiary
> > distributors>dealers. They all get a cut.
> >
> > The cost per copy is $32.- Applying the rule, the list price should be
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From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: falce and unperfect
> > but the distribution
> > scheme in p
> but the distribution
> scheme in place is comprised of the publisher>main distributor>subsidiary
> distributors>dealers. They all get a cut.
>
> The cost per copy is $32.- Applying the rule, the list price should be
> $224. As you can tell from my on line catalogue, the suggested list price
> fo
At 07:02 PM 12/5/2003 +0100, Tony Chalkley wrote:
>maybe it would not be a bad idea for the publishers
>(seeing as two of them are on the list) to explain their market (and I don't
>mean by this "justify their prices"). What a print run on the average
>facsimile is, who buys it, etc.
Justifyin
> Put another way, and taking the gamut of the list which runs from the
> professional to the rank amateur, how people see the facsimile is going to
> be very different, and maybe it would not be a bad idea for the publishers
> (seeing as two of them are on the list) to explain their market (and I
Dear Stewart,
>
> It is the "falce and unperfect" aspect of modern editions, which
> make me want to look at facsimiles. I want to get as close as
> possible to the original text to learn as much as I can about the
> music. It's an academic thing, I suppose.
It
I wrote:
>a facsimile is by definition not an original work. The
>question has been decided in a published federal trial court decision, but
>not by a federal court of appeal.
Stewart McCoy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm afraid I don't know what the legal situation is in America. We
> usuall
Dear Tony,
It is the "falce and unperfect" aspect of modern editions, which
make me want to look at facsimiles. I want to get as close as
possible to the original text to learn as much as I can about the
music. It's an academic thing, I suppose.
During the recent thread s
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>> Date sent: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:24:38 -0000
>> To: "Lute Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> From: "Stewart McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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n J. Callon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Stewart McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: Falce and unperfect: was: Facsimeles etc.
> Here are the Broude Bros contacts:
>
> Broude Brot
: "Lute Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Stewart McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Falce and unperfect: was: Facsimeles etc.
> Dear Tony,
>
> If you wanted, you could probably track down an address for
ocess. This is what he had to say in the
> introduction to _The First Booke of Songes_ (London, 1597):
>
> "There have bin divers Lute lessons of mine printed without my
> knowledge, falce and unperfect ..."
>
> He was certainly not impressed by people stealing his music
on this subject seemed
to suggest that the situation wasn't absolutely clear.
Best wishes,
Stewart McCoy.
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To: "Lute Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Stewart McCoy"
<[EMAIL PROTECTE
ions), not to
mention a bit falce and unperfect. I therefore need to transcribe them,
hopefully without error...
Tony
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