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On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 3:22 PM Peter Vollan wrote: > Well I dunno, that DM's Personnel Service program was written to work > on a variety of microcomputers, and the TRS-80 is mentioned. > The exception that proves the rule :-) Indeed some books and magazine tried to cater to a broad swath of

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Well I dunno, that DM's Personnel Service program was written to work on a variety of microcomputers, and the TRS-80 is mentioned. I don't think they meant the model 100 but it runs on it just fine. BTW It is in the manual's description of STR$ that it is expained that positive numbers have a

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On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 12:36 PM James Zeun wrote: > Thanks for that John > > Could I ask then, does that apply to the rest of the TRS-80 range of > computers? I mean, aside from not taking advantage of the M100s graphics > abilities, could code from books focusing on these systems still be >

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Thanks for that John Could I ask then, does that apply to the rest of the TRS-80 range of computers? I mean, aside from not taking advantage of the M100s graphics abilities, could code from books focusing on these systems still be perfectly fine to work on my M100? On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 19:41,

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They're both Microsoft extended basics so they're similar but they are not the same version and are not compatible in either direction. -- John.

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I'm certain I've read a couple of times, that programs for the TRS-80 colour computer work on the M100. I'm guessing they share the same version of BASIC. On Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 7:00 am Ariel Millennium Thornton, < arie...@thornton2.com> wrote: > Hi, folks! Long-time lurker and 100 owner

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Hi, folks! Long-time lurker and 100 owner popping up. It's on pages 169 and 170 of the owner's manual, in Chapter 16 (BASIC Keywords), in the descriptions of the PRINT, PRINT #, and PRINT USING commands. In the PRINT USING command description, the field specifier that inserts a blank for

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Every version of BASIC is a little different than every other, even between different models of computer from the same company, even if they are all Microsoft basic. There are lots of little syntax and capability and behavior detail differences. Sometimes there are complete major features that

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Well at least the program did work, so it means I can go further with my book. :-) On Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 1:00 am Peter Vollan, wrote: > This is explained in the Model 100 user manual, although now I cannot > remember where, and turns up in other early Microsoft products. Where > negative

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This is explained in the Model 100 user manual, although now I cannot remember where, and turns up in other early Microsoft products. Where negative numbers have a dash, positive numbers have a space, and this needs to be taken into account if you have occaision to turn a number string into a

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";mid$(str$(tt),2) m - Original Message - From: James Zeun To: m...@bitchin100.com Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [M100] Books on programming PRINT USING being the actual command? I should point out I am just starting out programming

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uary 13, 2020 7:02 PM > *Subject:* Re: [M100] Books on programming > > So this evening > > I was reading one of my programming books. > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxv0SsvibDMTUzdWckVpSUlIb0E/view?usp=drivesdk > > > I'm not far in (page 5) and already something

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: Monday, January 13, 2020 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [M100] Books on programming So this evening I was reading one of my programming books. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxv0SsvibDMTUzdWckVpSUlIb0E/view?usp=drivesdk I'm not far in (page 5) and already something has pop up

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So this evening I was reading one of my programming books. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxv0SsvibDMTUzdWckVpSUlIb0E/view?usp=drivesdk I'm not far in (page 5) and already something has pop up that didn't work as expected. PRINT "TOTAL=";2*17 TOTAL=34 On my M100 TOTAL= 34 The M100

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I know that there is a program called D20 for dice rolling. Does anyone out there know where it is??? On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 14:19, James wrote: > > Peter sorry it took me a while to answer this, but here goes > > At present we are playing a 5th edition game, have been for about a > year. I keep

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Peter sorry it took me a while to answer this, but here goes At present we are playing a 5th edition game, have been for about a year. I keep having to replace my character sheet and did wonder if I couldn't program something on my M100. Like an electronic 5e character sheet. Presently I

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Given the vintage, that article is probably AD (1st edition). Maybe 2e, but 2e is not very different from 1e. (I can wax very nerdy on that subject, but this doesn't seem the right forum.) On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 6:52 PM Gregory McGill wrote: > Here's the issue in pdf:

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Here's the issue in pdf: https://annarchive.com/files/Drmg074.pdf On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 4:42 PM Peter Vollan wrote: > I mean, what edition of D? > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 23:42, James Zeun wrote: > > > > Dragon #74 > > > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:56 am Peter Vollan, wrote: > >> > >> What

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I mean, what edition of D? On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 23:42, James Zeun wrote: > > Dragon #74 > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:56 am Peter Vollan, wrote: >> >> What edition do you use? >> >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 17:06, James Zeun wrote: >> > >> > Great, I'll have to check that out! >> > >> > I'm

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No.  They pretty much work as is. But like I said, they won't use any of the "advanced" features of the M100/102 (like sound, positioning on the screen, etc.). Jan 8, 2020, 14:38 by james.z...@gmail.com: > Oh that sounds promising, did it work or require a lot of rework? > > On Wed, 8 Jan

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Oh that sounds promising, did it work or require a lot of rework? On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 7:10 pm Ron Lauzon, wrote: > Yes. As a matter of fact, I typed in a couple of those programs into my > M102 for fun last year. > > Jan 8, 2020, 12:29 by james.z...@gmail.com: > > Does that mean the programs

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Yes.  As a matter of fact, I typed in a couple of those programs into my M102 for fun last year. Jan 8, 2020, 12:29 by james.z...@gmail.com: > Does that mean the programs in that book WOULD work on the m100? > > >

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I have a paper copy of the Hartnell book. It has a brief section in the beginning outlining adapting the listings to other systems. At the end of the book is a table on what commands to switch out to get things to work. No direct conversions to a Tandy basic are shown, however they are all

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s wanted one but I was a poor student back >> then.. >> >> Jonathan >> >> jonathan.y...@mykopat.slu.se >> >> Från: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] för Ron Lauzon [ >> rlau...@tutanota.com] >> Sk

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n 8 januari 2020 17:50 > Till: M100 > Ämne: Re: [M100] Books on programming > > Yes, but the games wouldn't take advantage of the display capabilities. > > Jan 8, 2020, 11:48 by james.z...@gmail.com: > Basic Computer Games by David H. > > > Would the programs in t

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Från: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] för Ron Lauzon [rlau...@tutanota.com] Skickat: den 8 januari 2020 17:50 Till: M100 Ämne: Re: [M100] Books on programming Yes, but the games wouldn't take advantage of the display capabilities. Jan 8, 2020, 11:48 by james.z

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Yes, but the games wouldn't take advantage of the display capabilities. Jan 8, 2020, 11:48 by james.z...@gmail.com: > Basic Computer Games by David H. > > > Would the programs in this book work ok on the M100? > > I've read it's aimed at an Altair 8080. > > >

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Basic Computer Games by David H. Would the programs in this book work ok on the M100? I've read it's aimed at an Altair 8080. On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 7:42 am James Zeun, wrote: > Dragon #74 > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:56 am Peter Vollan, wrote: > >> What edition do you use? >> >> On Tue, 7 Jan

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, Peter -- Message: 30 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 09:26:45 -0600 From: Dan Higdon To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Books on programming Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" In my own random number based programs (for Traveller,

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Dragon #74 On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:56 am Peter Vollan, wrote: > What edition do you use? > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 17:06, James Zeun wrote: > > > > Great, I'll have to check that out! > > > > I'm currently checking out all the books that have been suggested to me. > > > > Really difficult to

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What edition do you use? On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 17:06, James Zeun wrote: > > Great, I'll have to check that out! > > I'm currently checking out all the books that have been suggested to me. > > Really difficult to find physically books. > > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:03 am C. Magaret, wrote: >> >>

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The Dragon was TSR's house organ. On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 17:06, James Zeun wrote: > > Great, I'll have to check that out! > > I'm currently checking out all the books that have been suggested to me. > > Really difficult to find physically books. > > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:03 am C. Magaret,

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Great, I'll have to check that out! I'm currently checking out all the books that have been suggested to me. Really difficult to find physically books. On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:03 am C. Magaret, wrote: > "Dragon" was about role-playing games, primarily D > > /CAM > > > > > On Jan 7, 2020, at

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"Dragon" was about role-playing games, primarily D /CAM > On Jan 7, 2020, at 16:48, James Zeun wrote: > > Was the Dragon Magazine a computer mag or a magazine about roleplaying? > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:30 am Peter Vollan, wrote: > Dragon. > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 15:52, James Zeun

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Was the Dragon Magazine a computer mag or a magazine about roleplaying? On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:30 am Peter Vollan, wrote: > Dragon. > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 15:52, James Zeun wrote: > > > > Is that the one from the dungeon magazine? > > > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 11:34 pm Peter Vollan, wrote: >

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Dragon. On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 15:52, James Zeun wrote: > > Is that the one from the dungeon magazine? > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 11:34 pm Peter Vollan, wrote: >> >> I have just about got the Dungeon Master's Personnel Service debugged >> and working on Virtual T. >> >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 14:14,

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Is that the one from the dungeon magazine? On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 11:34 pm Peter Vollan, wrote: > I have just about got the Dungeon Master's Personnel Service debugged > and working on Virtual T. > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 14:14, Britt Dodd wrote: > > > > I’ve read the M100 manual and it did have

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That's really great! Let me know when you post it somewhere, and thanks for saving me the trouble of doing the conversion myself. :) On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 5:34 PM Peter Vollan wrote: > I have just about got the Dungeon Master's Personnel Service debugged > and working on Virtual T. > > On Tue,

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I have just about got the Dungeon Master's Personnel Service debugged and working on Virtual T. On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 14:14, Britt Dodd wrote: > > I’ve read the M100 manual and it did have some examples on there, but the > majority of it was more a glossary of statements. > > Sent from my

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I’ve read the M100 manual and it did have some examples on there, but the majority of it was more a glossary of statements. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Dan Higdon wrote: > >  > The treasure horde program isn't posted anywhere. It's not long, but I don't > have a copy

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Argh, yes, it's probably Hoard not Horde. Sorry. English is my native language, so I have no excuse. On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:10 PM Dan Higdon wrote: > The treasure horde program isn't posted anywhere. It's not long, but I > don't have a copy on this machine. When I get home, I can send it to

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The treasure horde program isn't posted anywhere. It's not long, but I don't have a copy on this machine. When I get home, I can send it to the list. On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:00 PM Peter Vollan wrote: > You may be interested in knowing that I have already cut that text out > of the pdf of

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You may be interested in knowing that I have already cut that text out of the pdf of Dragon #74 and then pasted it back together in a text file. Better than typing it all in like the old days, yes? I just ran it in Virtual T (Model 100) and it barfs at the command "randomize". I did the same

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I see the examples as just that, examples. Ways to learn how code works, by modifying existing code to see what happens. I want to make my own program, eventually. Have to learn how to program first! :-) On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 9:40 pm John R. Hogerhuis, wrote: > Careful James. Don't let us ruin

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Careful James. Don't let us ruin your fun by doing your homework for you :-) We can give you info and nudges but code it yourself! It's the way to learn. -- John.

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In most cases the syntax could change but the command should mostly be the same. Depending on what machine you're using that particular book was published with versions for specific Basics Commodore Atari Apple TRS-80 etc. Do a Google search for Dragon magazine 74 PDF and there should be a

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It says for the TRS80 Model 3... I'm assuming that would still be alright? On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 8:55 pm Ken Pettit, wrote: > Hi James, > > I just remembered the title. It is "Golden Flutes and Great Escapes": > > http://www.apple-iigs.info/doc/fichiers/goldenflutesandgreatescapes.pdf > > Ken

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Cool, are those magazines easy to get hold of? On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 9:04 pm Jason Paul, wrote: > I was going to mention that title also I would say many Dragon magazines > have actual basic code fully listed for dice rollers character generators > dungeon generator treasure generators. I

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I was going to mention that title also I would say many Dragon magazines have actual basic code fully listed for dice rollers character generators dungeon generator treasure generators. I happen to have most of them I'll start tossing out some issue numbers when I get a chance to go through the

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Hi James, I just remembered the title. It is "Golden Flutes and Great Escapes": http://www.apple-iigs.info/doc/fichiers/goldenflutesandgreatescapes.pdf Ken On 1/7/20 12:48 PM, James Zeun wrote: Yes please! That would be great! On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 8:36 pm Ken Pettit,

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Yes please! That would be great! On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 8:36 pm Ken Pettit, wrote: > > On 1/7/20 11:12 AM, Jerry Stratton wrote: > >> I don't know if anyone has any books they'd be willing to part with or > just recommend one. > > > > If your D includes wanting to write text adventures in BASIC,

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On 1/7/20 11:12 AM, Jerry Stratton wrote: I don't know if anyone has any books they'd be willing to part with or just recommend one. If your D includes wanting to write text adventures in BASIC, Tim Hartnell’s Creating Adventure Games On Your Computer was very nice. Come to think of it,

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> I don't know if anyone has any books they'd be willing to part with or just > recommend one. I’ve been reviewing a bunch of the old BASIC books on Goodreads. https://www.goodreads.com/review/list/21430140-jerry?shelf=retro In particular, I thought Instant Freeze Dried Computer Programming in

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That's actually a cooler idea than what I was talking about. My code "shakes the cup" until you tap a key. But "hold down the key, and when you release it, then take the random number" is an even better idea. I need to try that out. Much more interactive. You can even use the old trick where you

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Ok holding down a key to 'roll dice' is a genius idea. I understood a bit of that line, but I've delved in to keypresses etc. So this will be all new territory for me. But sounds exciting :-) On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 3:27 pm Dan Higdon, wrote: > In my own random number based programs (for

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In my own random number based programs (for Traveller, not D, lol - Traveller subsector generation is fun) I usually have a "busy loop" that does something like D=RND(1) over and over until the user presses a key, and then takes the next RND(1) value as my roll. This is the computer equivalent of

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I've discovered on the very back of my bookshelf some books on BASIC, i thought originally they were exclusively for the Acorn (BBC) Micro & Sinclair Spectrum computers. However one of them mentions TRS-80 and another mentions TRS-80 Colour computer. On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 13:56, Charles Hudson

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On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 13:56, Charles Hudson wrote: > On January 7th James Zeun wrote: > "Are these books available as PDFs?" I would begin by looking in the > Internet Archive for PDFs and in Amazon for used copies. One more, for game > lovers: Tim Hartnell's GIANT BOOK OF COMPUTER GAMES, C.

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On January 7th James Zeun wrote: "Are these books available as PDFs?" I would begin by looking in the Internet Archive for PDFs and in Amazon for used copies. One more, for game lovers: Tim Hartnell's GIANT BOOK OF COMPUTER GAMES, C. 1984, Ballantine Books Board games, adventure games, dice games

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Many thanks Are these books available as PDFs? On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 1:37 pm Charles Hudson, wrote: > You might also investigate: > > Fun With Microcomputers and BASIC, Donald D. Spencer, C. 1981 Reston > Publishing Co. > Numerous dice and game simulations > > BASIC Programming, 2nd Ed.,

[M100] Books on programming

You might also investigate: Fun With Microcomputers and BASIC, Donald D. Spencer, C. 1981 Reston Publishing Co. Numerous dice and game simulations BASIC Programming, 2nd Ed., VanCourt Hare, Jr.,C. 1982 Harcourt, Brace, Jovanovich A more advanced discussion of BASIC, was used as a U Mass text.

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I found several instances of the topic; here is one you might like to consult: INSTANT FREEZE-DRIED COMPUTER PROGRAMMING IN BASIC 2ND ASTOUNDING! EDITION An Active-participation & Well-tested Instructional Workbook for the Student, Absolute Beginner, & Compleat Novice For any brand of computer

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I already have a reasonable idea how the program should work. When run, it will ask the user the number of dice required. (Value A) Having established that value, the next INPUT shall be to determine the type of dice in play. (Value B) With those two values, I will either use the randomiser to

[M100] Books on programming

On January 6th James Zeun wrote: "It would be even cooler on a TRS80 M100." I apologize for my ignorance in that I know nothing about the D game, never having played it, but I applaud your willingness to undertake the task. Programming breaks down into two (usually sequential, but don't ever let

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FLORENCE Y'ALL On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:37 PM Ken Pettit wrote: > Yeah, me too ... oops! ;) > > It has been so many years since I even thought about BASIC ... I'm not > sure I would have a good recomendation for a book. I learned BASIC in 1977 > when I was 12 standing at a Radio Shack TRS-80

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Well I had a quick look online for that book you suggested. I only went and found it for sale on fleabay for just short of £4. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F293305402906 Hopefully it'll get my foot through the door. I do know some

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Yeah, me too ... oops! ;) It has been so many years since I even thought about BASIC ... I'm not sure I would have a good recomendation for a book. I learned BASIC in 1977 when I was 12 standing at a Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 1, reading the BASIC for beginners book they had sitting next the

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keypresses to help make the random number more random. It rolls up to 4 D6’s and seems to be reasonable random and could be modified to roll other dice types. From: M100 On Behalf Of John R. Hogerhuis Sent: Tuesday, 7 January 2020 1:23 PM To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Books on programming

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On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:01 PM James Zeun wrote: > As cool as Google is, you know neither of you actually suggested a > programming book :-P > > I'm hoping for hints, help, suggestions guys lol > > > Oops, sorry about that. The way I learned was from the "Getting Started with Color BASIC"

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As cool as Google is, you know neither of you actually suggested a programming book :-P I'm hoping for hints, help, suggestions guys lol On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 11:57 pm James Zeun, wrote: > It would be even cooler on a TRS80 M100. > > At the moment I understood only a little bit of what you

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It would be even cooler on a TRS80 M100. At the moment I understood only a little bit of what you said. Which is why I'm trying to secure some sort of learning aid, commonly known in old days as book! :-) As to whether the organic storage medium is still working, I suspect it's developed a few

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\On 1/6/20 3:50 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 3:37 PM James Zeun > wrote: So I know bog all about programming. But part of me wouldn't mind dabbling a little bit on my M100. Someone once said the best way to program, is to have a

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On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 3:37 PM James Zeun wrote: > So I know bog all about programming. But part of me wouldn't mind dabbling > a little bit on my M100. > Someone once said the best way to program, is to have a project in mind. > > For me it would a Dungeons & Dragons Dice roller. Select which

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So I know bog all about programming. But part of me wouldn't mind dabbling a little bit on my M100. Someone once said the best way to program, is to have a project in mind. For me it would a Dungeons & Dragons Dice roller. Select which dice, D4, D6, D20 ect, number of dice and the let it roll.