Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Glenn
gt; >> Debbie >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas >> Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibili

RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Missy Hoppe
oun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 1:24 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this&quo

Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. > > Debbie > > > -Original Message- > From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas > Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM > To: Mac OSX &

Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Bryan Jones
I've recently been spending buckets of time learning to use various access tools that are new to me on several platforms, including Windows and Android. This is a requirement for the internship I'm fortunate to have with my University's Disabilities Services office, and while I must confess I am

RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Missy Hoppe
On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to ha

Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Gordon Smith
ill be really good. > > Debbie > > > -Original Message- > From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas > Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject:

Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread krystal watson
mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of krystal watson > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 10:17 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was > "so wish app

RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Missy Hoppe
t; From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:52 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was > &quo

Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread krystal watson
Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:52 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was > "so wish apple had done this"] > > I've nothing against vocaliser voices, especially Karen's voice, as it's the

Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Lyn & her faithful furry friends
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas >> Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant >&

Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Lyn & her faithful furry friends
ss-boun...@mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver >> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:52 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was >> &q

Re: My Thoughts on the Mac Accessibility was RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Mike Arrigo
Yes, the numpad does make things easier, and on the laptops, you can use the trackpad commander which also makes navigating much easier. On Sep 29, 2012, at 11:18 PM, Shaun Oliver wrote: > I've also had it said to me that if you can get hold of a numpad, bluetooth > or otherwise, you can make fu

RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Missy Hoppe
c-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:52 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"] I've nothing against vocaliser voices

Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Shaun Oliver
; -Original Message- > From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A P

Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Chris Moore
Well there is no reason why a developer could not create a Safari extension to perform the same functions as Flexible Web which is found in JAWS 14 (which I must admit is pretty awesome and innovative). Or perhaps Apple could consider adding such a facility to Activities within Voiceover prefer

RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Missy Hoppe
2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to re

Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Shaun Oliver
ac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas > Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant > [Was "so wish apple had done this"

Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Shaun Oliver
t; [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas > Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant > [Was "so wish apple had done this"] > > just

RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Debbie April Yuille
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"] just wish the HQ voices didn&#

RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Debbie April Yuille
er will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A P

Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread william lomas
just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris wrote: > I am greatful for all this as well. > > On 30/09/2

Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-30 Thread Chris
I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn & her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whet

Re: My Thoughts on the Mac Accessibility was RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-29 Thread Shaun Oliver
I've also had it said to me that if you can get hold of a numpad, bluetooth or otherwise, you can make full use of numpad commander and it makes the navigating experience just that much better. I personally had no issue with learning to use the mac. I learned to drive on around two years ago, as

Re: My Thoughts on the Mac Accessibility was RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-29 Thread Mike Arrigo
I love the mac, I no longer have a pc here, voiceover does things somewhat differently than the windows screen readers, but once you get usd to that, it works just as well as the windows screen readers and in many ways, it works better. On Sep 29, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Debbie April Yuille wrote: >

My Thoughts on the Mac Accessibility was RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-29 Thread Debbie April Yuille
Here, Here. Well said. I've just migrated to mac and I'm quite surprised with how accessible it really is. I have virtually no site, and I'm learning to get around it quite well. I particularly love the way that you can use the Item chooser to navigate around a page rather than tab around a hole sc

Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-29 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Hello Missy I think that is a fair and reasonable perspective. I'm certainly not trying to involve anybody in a "My toy's better than yours" debate. What people do and how they choose to do it is entirely down to their choice. All I can say in conclusion to this is that this group is here for a

RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

2012-09-29 Thread Missy Hoppe
Very well said! I'll be the first to admit that I don't take full advantage of all the tips and tricks that could make web browsing easier, but I don't blaim apple or other screen reader developers. It's entirely my fault if I'm too lazy or stubborn to take the time to learn how to use web browse