David,
I have a very long password I use for my banking site. I can tell you that
APple is not going to change how you receive feedback on entering passwords.
Whether you agree or not, security is their first concern and I can assure you
it took some effort to get even some audible feedback. Ho
more of an add on or after
>>>>>>>> thought then they are in windows. I don't mean this just from the
>>>>>>>> perspective of a blind user, but in general without any reference to
>>>>>>>> screen readers.
>>>>
Numpad commander sounds great but I just have a MBA. How do others use the
keyboard commander. Mostly so far I've just added commands to launch programs.
I have felt like I should learn the proper commands before replacing any.
Garth
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On 27/11/2011, at 2:26 AM, David Grif
I have come into this thread late so apologies if these points have already
been made.
I am a comparative new Mac user and to be honest also initially found many of
the VO shortcuts very key intensive. Quick nab helped a bit but I was
constantly having to turn it on and off which added c
g my MBA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Garth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 24/11/2011, at 11:50 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree. I'm v
gt; recently. Even the mail commands are fairly intuitive once you memorize
>>>>>>> them, which usually isn't a problem for me. I just
>>>>>>> can't get genuinely comfortable with any of the word processing options
>>>>>>> for
gt;>> things just seem more complicated than they have to be: for example, I
>>>>>> don't always know when interracting is mandatory, and
>>>>>> I've heard some instructions on this list that just seem way too complex
>>>>>> co
r 1 thing I read
>>>>> recently where there were 4-5 steps, including
>>>>> interracting several times, and I just thought to myself that whatever
>>>>> the task was isn't nearly so complicated to do under
>>>>> windows. St
Hello Garth,
There are vast numbers of keyboard shortcuts that have nothing to do with
VoiceOver.
To get a contextual menu, hold down the Control key and click with the mouse or
trackpad;
To get to the Apple menu, press Ctrl-F2;
To go to the dock, press Ctrl-F3;
To go to the Status menus, press
>>>> recently where there were 4-5 steps, including
>>>> interracting several times, and I just thought to myself that whatever the
>>>> task was isn't nearly so complicated to do under
>>>> windows. Still, I am to the point where I try to boot up the mac at
t;> wish I could think of an example, but I do remember 1 thing I read
>>>>> recently where there were 4-5 steps, including
>>>>> interracting several times, and I just thought to myself that whatever
>>>>> the task was isn't nearly so complicated
s. Still, I am to the point where I try to boot up the mac at least
>>>> a few times a week, but unless I can find a better
>>>> word processor, some audio games and/or a mud client that actually works,
>>>> I don't ever see myself abandoning the PC.
>&
d to do under
>>> windows. Still, I am to the point where I try to boot up the mac at least a
>>> few times a week, but unless I can find a better
>>> word processor, some audio games and/or a mud client that actually works, I
>>> don't ever see myself abandoning the P
o boot up the mac at least a
>>> few times a week, but unless I can find a better
>>> word processor, some audio games and/or a mud client that actually works, I
>>> don't ever see myself abandoning the PC.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
and/or a mud client that actually works, I
>> don't ever see myself abandoning the PC.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Garth Humphreys
>> Sent: T
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Garth Humphreys
> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 8:41 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mac feel natural
>
> Hi
>
> I would agree with the general sentiment that you need to just use your mac
Hi all,
Well I just got my first MBP June 18, 2011. Between taking care of income
property and working a job, an advocation, and a vocation with no vacation
coming up soon enough, I'm still learning slowly but surely whoever surely may
be. All I can say is that the folks on this list are pati
legroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Garth Humphreys
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 8:41 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac feel natural
Hi
I would agree with the general sentiment that you need to just use your mac for
a while. I have only had
Hi
I would agree with the general sentiment that you need to just use your mac for
a while. I have only had my Mac for a couple of months but I have used it
everyday.
I feel relatively comfortable on the Mac. I wouldn't agree that you need to
stop using Windows completely. I have been using W
Hi,
I have been using the Mac since 2008 and am never ever ever ever going to go
back to windblows again. It took me a weekend to set it up and once done, i
left windblows behind and have never looked back since. Ok, i've got a vm with
XP and one with 7 in it, just to see what i'm not missing. T
Traci,
the way I did it was to force myself to do everything I needed to do on the Mac
and stay away from Windows. No matter how tempting it was, I didn't allow
myself to use Windows at all While I was learning to use the Mac.
Mary
On Nov 23, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Paul Mimms wrote:
> Most of us
I could at least
>>>> function with the mac until finances permitted for me to get the pc fixed.
>>>> I think that using VM fusion or bootcamp would make me spend a lot more
>>>> time on my macbook, but since I can't afford to buy windows for it, I'm
>&
Hi,
When I started using the mac, I knew nothing about it. I had a friend in
another city that told me sort of how to use the e-mail client and that was
pretty much it.
I had a hard time with Safari. It just wasn't clicking for me. It wasn't at
all like windows and I couldn't get that con
'm not working,
>> text files are almost always adequate. I just wish I knew what I was doing
>> wrong with the mud client that's supposed to be accessible. it doesn't
>> talk at all.
>> Missy
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:mac
ies@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Traci
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:16 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mac feel natural
>
> *Smile,* and maybe I need to be patient. I used windows and window eyes for
> 10 y
ly
> into iTunes as a whole?
>
> Have you tried Bean as a text editor?
>
> And as a side note: CJ, congratulations on the new guide dog, what a
> brilliant way to bring in the holidays!
>
> Traci
>
>
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: Missy Hop
acvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Traci
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac feel natural
*Smile,* and maybe I need to be patient. I used windows and window eyes for 10
years. I've been using
>>> function with the mac until finances permitted for me to get the pc fixed.
>>> I think that using VM fusion or bootcamp would make me spend a lot more
>>> time on my macbook, but since I can't afford to buy windows for it, I'm
>>> just not to that
't know if/when the mac will feel natural for me, but I have to say
>> that I think I've come pretty far with it since buying it in May; am just
>> not in love with it, if that makes sense.
>>
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macv
come pretty far with it since buying it in May; am just not
> in love with it, if that makes sense.
>
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chad King
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 1:54 PM
> To: macvisionaries@goog
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:02 AM
Subject: RE: Mac feel natural
I'd love for the mac to some day feel natural, but so far, most of the stuff
I like doing just works better on the PC. I'm still not entirely impressed with
text edit or pages for word processing; don't like t
Second that. When my Windows machine crashed & it just wasn't worth repairing
the component that fried, all of a sudden the Mac got a lot more
friendly…*grin* And after 6 or so months, I realized it was feeling pretty
natural &, while occasionally I'm frustrated by some of Mac's quirky little
say
that I think I've come pretty far with it since
buying it in May; am just not in love with it, if that makes sense.
_
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Chad King
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 1:54 PM
To: macvisiona
Traci,
Indeed! It is an amazing experience. I'll put it this way. Use windows. But
only if you *have* to.
That's what I meant by its ok to use both. Because there were a couple of times
where i just, 'didn't quite get it."
Of course, i was also running Mac OS X Leopard at the time. Much has impro
Thanks for the replies.
I think my biggest thing is surfing the net. Reading and researching is a huge
part of the computer experience for me, and it is slow going getting use to
surfing with VO and Mac.
Maybe like you guys say, it'll take time. Hopefully it'll all feel natural
soon. There
if it makes you feel any better, my friends that use windows tell me
it is getting more and more like apple all the time. take care, max
On Nov 23, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Traci wrote:
*Grin,* I thought that might be the popular response. I should put
the old laptop upstairs or something and for
Tracy the fact of the matter is the Mac will never feel natural until you
decide to put your windows machine away for a while. Trying to use both is not
allowing yourself to fully experience and learn the Mac environment. Regardless
of the advice others give you it will always come back to you a
hi
When I first bought my mac a couple of years ago, I remember using both
Operating systems for a while. Untill my Windows PC crashed. Then I didn't have
much of a choice. LOL!
It's ok to use both. If you enjoy the experience, you probably will most likely
keep coming back to it. Take your time
Hi:
You need to stop using your PC. It is a crutch to learning how to use the Mac.
Just use it. That is what I did.
On Nov 23, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Traci wrote:
> *Grin,* I thought that might be the popular response. I should put the old
> laptop upstairs or something and force myself to use the
*Grin,* I thought that might be the popular response. I should put the old
laptop upstairs or something and force myself to use the Mac. The funny thing
is, every time I use the Mac, I enjoy the experience, it just doesn't feel like
second nature yet.
Thanks,
Traci
Sent by Macbook Air Mail
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Most of us are more comfortable with what we have become familiar with
using, therefore what is easier. You may find you just need to stop
making the decision whether to use the MacBook or the PC and remove the
PC from consideration. Make the MacBook the only computer you use and
make it work
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