Re: [maemo-developers] Bug in Maemo's version of GTK-2.6 (Please nokia-devs look into this)

2005-11-08 Thread Tapani Pälli
ext Tapani Pälli wrote: >ext Clemens Eisserer wrote: > > > >>This is the code I used for testing: >>printf("\nDepth: %d", gdk_rgb_get_visual()->depth); >>GdkPixmap* pix = gdk_pixmap_new (NULL, 10, 10, 16); >>void* cm = gdk_drawable_get_colormap ((GdkDrawable *)pix); >>printf("\nIt returned with

[maemo-developers] RFC: Qtopia Nokia N770 (maemo) porting layer

2005-11-08 Thread Holger Freyther
Hi Pals, Nokia, I would be intersted in leading the development of a LGPL/BSD licensed porting layer of the Qtopia platform for the maemo platform. Why such a layer is good: -Existing applications can be utilized for Maemo by easily migrating them to use osso/hildon technology

Re: [maemo-developers] RFC: Qtopia Nokia N770 (maemo) porting layer

2005-11-08 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2005/11/7, Holger Freyther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Pals, Nokia, > > I would be intersted in leading the development of a LGPL/BSD licensed > porting layer of the Qtopia platform for the maemo platform. > > Why such a layer is good: > -Existing applications can be utilized for Maemo by eas

Re: [maemo-developers] RFC: Qtopia Nokia N770 (maemo) porting layer

2005-11-08 Thread Kate Alhola
ext Holger Freyther wrote: > Hi Pals, Nokia, As only my personal viewbased on my prtsonal project > I would be intersted in leading the development of a LGPL/BSD licensed > porting layer of the Qtopia platform for the maemo platform. > > Why such a layer is good: > -Existing applications can be uti

Re: [maemo-developers] The future of the Application installer

2005-11-08 Thread Riku Voipio
On Monday 07 November 2005 18:35, Marius Vollmer wrote: > "ext Koen Kooi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I like the idea of extra software being in /var/lib/install so it can't > > mess up the rootfs is something goes wrongs. > Hmm. That is something I have been thinking about, but it would > re

Re: [maemo-developers] RFC: Qtopia Nokia N770 (maemo) porting layer

2005-11-08 Thread sampo . nurmentaus
Hi, I would be intersted in leading the development of a LGPL/BSD licensed porting layer of the Qtopia platform for the maemo platform. Sounds intresting. Do you mean something like this: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/gtk-webcore/NRCore/kwiq/KWQButton.cpp?rev=1.1.1.1&view=auto It

Re: [maemo-developers] RFC: Qtopia Nokia N770 (maemo) porting layer

2005-11-08 Thread Florian Boor
Hi! Holger Freyther wrote: > -In the future we should use Qt4 but that would require more porting > of the applications. I'm not sure if it is a good idea to use Qt2 first and then port to Qt4. Wouldn't it be easier to port the UIs to Hildon/GTK+ instead of porting them to Qt2/X11, t

Re: [maemo-developers] RFC: Qtopia Nokia N770 (maemo) porting layer

2005-11-08 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 11/7/05, Holger Freyther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Pals, Nokia, Hi Holger, I'm interested in have Qt/Qtopia/Opie to run on Nokia-770, however I have some points: - If you will spend resources, do it first to port Opie to Qt4, everyone will enjoy it and it will make things faster & easie

[maemo-developers] Playback of MPEG2?

2005-11-08 Thread trfm64q02
Hi, on the Nokia webpage I saw the hint that the N770 can playback MPEG4, Real Video, H.263, ... (see IceAge trailer) But do we have a change to playback MPEG2 video files? (e.g. DVB-S recordings or DVDs) Is the HW fast enough (with accelerator if any)? If yes: then the 770 is the ideal device

Re: [maemo-developers] Bug in Maemo's version of GTK-2.6 (Please nokia-devs look into this)

2005-11-08 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 18:03 +, ext Clemens Eisserer wrote: > Hi there, > > I think I've found a bug in Maemo's modified version of GTK-2.6. > The version which is installed on my 770 (both the original version > plus the latest update release) says that > "gdk_rgb_get_visual()->depth" is 24

Re: [maemo-developers] Alternative platforms ?

2005-11-08 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 19:59 +, ext Glen Gray wrote: > Hey Guys, > > The maemo project looks really interesting. Currently it seems > entirely focused on the Nokia 770 platform and I'm wondering if > that's a valid impression ? The Nokia 770 was the first (and only) device to use the maemo

Re: [maemo-developers] RFC: Qtopia Nokia N770 (maemo) porting layer

2005-11-08 Thread Clemens Eisserer
> ...which makes these sound a bit funky. If you use *anything* > GUI-related that is already implemented, you'll drag Gtk+ in. Which > will mean that you need to have both Qt and Gtk+ libraries in memory > at the same time, which I think is not too hot on the current > hardware. >From this point

Re: [maemo-developers] RFC: Qtopia Nokia N770 (maemo) porting layer

2005-11-08 Thread Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
Hi Holger, If you are going to base this on Qt2 how could it be LGPL/BSD licensed? If you are do to a LGPL/BSD licensed version of Qtopia you need to do it from scratch not using TrollTech's code at all. Also if the goal is to make it a porting layer you should in other words try to implement the Q

Re: [maemo-developers] RFC: Qtopia Nokia N770 (maemo) porting layer

2005-11-08 Thread Florian Boor
Hello, Clemens Eisserer wrote: >>From this point of view I think GTK2 was the completly wrong choice as > Maemo's GUI toolkit. Its slow (mameo contains even a hacked version > which tries to speed it up a bit) and heavyweight (megs of code > splitted in many different shared-libs), but it was choo

Re: [maemo-developers] RFC: Qtopia Nokia N770 (maemo) porting layer

2005-11-08 Thread Clemens Eisserer
> So the argument is to add another huge toolkit because GTK is too big? I can > remember someone else explained that situation before... on the other hand you > can take the device and run your own Qt based filesystem on it. But then you > won't need to port the tookit but port your applications t

Re: [maemo-developers] RFC: Qtopia Nokia N770 (maemo) porting layer

2005-11-08 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2005/11/8, Clemens Eisserer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > ...which makes these sound a bit funky. If you use *anything* > > GUI-related that is already implemented, you'll drag Gtk+ in. Which > > will mean that you need to have both Qt and Gtk+ libraries in memory > > at the same time, which I think is

Re: [maemo-developers] RFC: Qtopia Nokia N770 (maemo) porting layer

2005-11-08 Thread Kaj Grönholm
Hi, > Maybe > linking it statically isn't a bad idea if its just used by one single > program > Yep, but linking QT statically would make the binary probably too big to fit nicely in the N770 flash... It's doable anyway for the ones who really want it (not me ;-) > If I look at the tons of Hild

Re: [maemo-developers] RFC: Qtopia Nokia N770 (maemo) porting layer

2005-11-08 Thread klaus
Am 7 Nov 2005 um 22:17 hat Holger Freyther geschrieben: > How such a port would look like: > -We would use Qt2/X11 and make it look like the maemo gui > -We would implement libqpe,libqtopia, libqtopia1, libqtopiapim >using osso, hildon and Qt2 > -In the future we shoul

Re: [maemo-developers] RFC: Qtopia Nokia N770 (maemo) porting layer

2005-11-08 Thread Shawn Gordon
I've been watching this thread with interest, and I have some feedback for you. Qtopia is about a 3mb footprint, it is pretty small, has its own framebuffer and doesn't rely on X, this is for Qt2x. Qt3 was never made in to an embedded version because of its size. I'm told that Qt4x was modul

Re: [maemo-developers] RFC: Qtopia Nokia N770 (maemo) porting layer

2005-11-08 Thread Kalle Vahlman
Some further comments came into mind... 2005/11/8, Clemens Eisserer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: (Gtk) > [...] but it was choosen for > compatibility as the whole Xserver based approach. Yes, Maemo (coupled with the IT2005) is more of a distribution than simply UI for a PDA, so good compatibility with d

Re: [maemo-developers] Alternative platforms ?

2005-11-08 Thread Glen Gray
Thanks for the response Tommi, On 8 Nov 2005, at 16:23, Tommi Komulainen wrote: The Nokia 770 was the first (and only) device to use the maemo platform and some corners were cut in the process, and things like fixed display size and resolution were assumed. But limiting ourselves to only a

Re: [maemo-developers] RFC: Qtopia Nokia N770 (maemo) porting layer

2005-11-08 Thread Helge Hess
On 8. Nov 2005, at 22:28 Uhr, Kalle Vahlman wrote: So is there more candidates for this than Qt?-) Well, Cocoa/GNUstep of course! Na, just kidding ;-) Greets, Helge -- http://docs.opengroupware.org/Members/helge/ OpenGroupware.org ___ maemo-develo

Re: [maemo-developers] bi-di BT-link between two 770s

2005-11-08 Thread Johannes Eickhold
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 00:00 +0200, Johan Hedberg wrote: > On Sun, Nov 06, 2005, Patrick Ohly wrote: > > Another use of Bluetooth could be connecting the 770 to a GPS receiver. > > With its large screen it would make a nice moving map display, although > > my primary use would be to simply transfer

Re: [maemo-developers] bi-di BT-link between two 770s

2005-11-08 Thread Johannes Eickhold
On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 15:32 +0200, Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: > Hello > > Since my BT skills are non-existant, I'm asking for help for this project. > I'm > thinking of implementing a simple util library that would provide two-way > stream-communication between games running on two 770s (same ga

Re: [maemo-developers] bi-di BT-link between two 770s

2005-11-08 Thread Giuseppe Zompatori
2005/11/9, Johannes Eickhold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I just wrote a HowTo for setting up IP connections over bluetooth with > the 770. http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HOWTO-BluetoothNetworking I found another howto sometime ago which works better than what you describe on your howto to connect the 770 t

Re: [maemo-developers] bi-di BT-link between two 770s

2005-11-08 Thread Johan Hedberg
On Wed, Nov 09, 2005, Johannes Eickhold wrote: > > Searching for remote devices and creating outgoing RFCOMM connections > > (e.g. to serial port profile) doesn't require root privileges, so that > > should work just fine with the normal firmware. > > As the wiki states on http://maemo.org/maemowi