There are synergies between ubuntu and maemo.
Nokia does bluetooth and wifi much better. Ubuntu has better package
management and updates.
It would be wonderful if the tablet was just a subset of
Ubuntu-(mobile?)-for-ARM, perhaps with a few additions.
Hi,
> Sure. However as for today there is no Ubuntu productized for ARM, so
> it's not as easy as it might look like for the average Ubuntu
> enthusiast. The Mojo project (funded by Nokia, btw) is investigating
> that Ubuntu ARM port. It is probably not very difficult to put a "Maemo
> Ubuntu Hacke
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Simon Pickering
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yes I agree with your point, make it easier to plug in different codecs to
> the standard media player (or even open it up, and just keep the
> differentiation GUI closed source if required).
This *should* be what MIDAS
> There are several disjoint projects to bring Ogg/Vorbis/Theora support
> to the standard media player. None of them work completely as far as
> I can tell - some add the codecs, most don't do all the
> mime-associations. Nokia has already said they will never support it
> out of the box, so the
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Felipe Contreras
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 4:40 AM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Would VLC (http://www.videolan.org) be a good client ?
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Siarhei Siamashka
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday 01 November 2008, Ryan Abel wrote:
>> On Nov 1, 2008, at 5:47 AM, Simon Pickering wrote:
>> > Something with more mileage, though still not really a killer app,
>> > would be working on optimisation of the ba
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi!
>
>> Agreed, we have officially supported GStreamer and the excellent mplayer
>> which can be wrapped if someone wants a (different) gui. VLC certainly
>> doesn't classify as a killer app bearing these in mind
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 4:40 AM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Would VLC (http://www.videolan.org) be a good client ?
>> There was a port for Maemo but it was underpowered.
>> It has the capacity to be
Hi!
> Agreed, we have officially supported GStreamer and the excellent mplayer
> which can be wrapped if someone wants a (different) gui. VLC certainly
> doesn't classify as a killer app bearing these in mind IMHO.
You missed my entire point. :) mplayer is also a competitor of
GStreamer and afa
On Saturday 01 November 2008, Ryan Abel wrote:
> On Nov 1, 2008, at 5:47 AM, Simon Pickering wrote:
> > Something with more mileage, though still not really a killer app,
> > would be working on optimisation of the backend libs that all three
> > media players use (therefore any media player would
On Nov 1, 2008, at 5:47 AM, Simon Pickering wrote:
> Something with more mileage, though still not really a killer app,
> would be working on optimisation of the backend libs that all three
> media players use (therefore any media player would benefit). But this
> will have to wait until we see wh
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Would VLC (http://www.videolan.org) be a good client ?
>> There was a port for Maemo but it was underpowered.
>> It has the capacity to be embedded and could be a very good all-purpose
>> (all-codec) media player ...
>
> Perh
Hi!
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Would VLC (http://www.videolan.org) be a good client ?
> There was a port for Maemo but it was underpowered.
> It has the capacity to be embedded and could be a very good all-purpose
> (all-codec) media player ...
Perhaps t
On Oct 31, 2008, at 10:17 AM, tz wrote:
> Nokia has already said they will never support it
> out of the box, so the next best thing would be to have something
> available to fully integrate it.
It's coming in Maemo 5.
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Maemo Community Council chair
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On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Still unsure? My fault, then. Let's put it like this:
>
> We want Maemo 5 explorers squeezing Fremantle and making amazing
> end-user ready products out of it.
>
>> Whether existing projects can apply (or, on the contrary, cann
ext Neil Jerram wrote:
> (And I could be right to suggest that maximizing community benefit is
> a path to commercial success
Of course, why do you think Nokia hires (otherwise pretty useless)
people like me? :)
> I completely agree that the UI requirement differences are very
> challenging.
Hi Quim,
2008/10/24 Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Thanks for the very good feedback!
>
> Answering to Till and Neil, who came up with requirements difficult to
> combine: mobile uniqueness versus API compatibility across several
> platforms.
Many thanks for your response. It is clear that you
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2008/10/24 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Quoting koos vriezen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> 2008/10/24 David Greaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> for maemo is pyrecipe (http://pyrecipe.garage.maemo.org/ ).
>
> Pyrecipe is a great app, not fully mature
"ext Andrew Flegg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It's somewhat facetious, but after some discussion in the community
> one thing jumps out: we want the Application Manager to be such a
> star.
Ohh, cool.
An intriguing long-term idea is to use PackageKit in maemo, and spread
the package managemen
Ryan Abel wrote:
> What about something like powerlaunch? Music playback is a pretty
> common use case, and having to take the tablet out of your pocket to
> change the volume or the song is a pain. Some hooks into dsme/mce so
> you can issue commands with the screen turned off would be a nic
Hi Carsten, thank you very much for the time, energies and skills you
are putting in the Deblet project, and in this thread.
http://wiki.maemo.org/Mainstream_Linux_Alignment was born this morning
in a humble corner of the wiki. Let's compile there all the bugs and
enhancement requests relating to
Would VLC (http://www.videolan.org) be a good client ?
There was a port for Maemo but it was underpowered.
It has the capacity to be embedded and could be a very good all-purpose
(all-codec) media player ...
Fred
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What about something like powerlaunch? Music playback is a pretty
common use case, and having to take the tablet out of your pocket to
change the volume or the song is a pain. Some hooks into dsme/mce so
you can issue commands with the screen turned off would be a nice
feature.
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Quim Gil wrote:
> The strategy taken for Maemo is different, promoting the direct
> collaboration with the relevant upstream projects and going as far as
> possible with the open source way of working. Maemo is mostly based of
> open source components. Any manufacturer could take that code base
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We want to support a bunch of projects getting ready for primetime the
> same day maemo 5 is released. And we propose the community to help out
> selecting those projects.
>
> What kind of support? Whatever those cool projects
Hi.
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:51:24 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Quoting koos vriezen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 2008/10/24 David Greaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > for maemo is pyrecipe (http://pyrecipe.garage.maemo.org/ ).
>
> Pyrecipe is a great app, not fully matured (as Daniel Yerga will
> p
Graham Cobb wrote:
> On Friday 24 October 2008 16:46:12 Sarah Newman wrote:
>> David Greaves wrote:
>>> I propose:
>>> * The GPE suite (especially synchronising)
>>> * Canola (some limitations that become annoying quickly)
>> GPE seconded FWIW. I might be able to help with finger-friendliness an
Sarah Newman wrote:
> David Greaves wrote:
>
>> I propose:
>> * The GPE suite (especially synchronising)
>> * Canola (some limitations that become annoying quickly)
>>
>
> GPE seconded FWIW. I might be able to help with finger-friendliness and
> maybe location-based task reminders (as I
Quoting koos vriezen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/10/24 David Greaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> for maemo is pyrecipe (http://pyrecipe.garage.maemo.org/ ).
Pyrecipe is a great app, not fully matured (as Daniel Yerga will
probably admit) but is something that could be a 'deal breaker' for
some. Lov
Quoting Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> ext Neil Jerram wrote:
>> 2. The timescale is too short. Either people already have most of
>> their time committed for the next few months, or they don't. I would
>> venture that those with time on their hands are mostly unlikely to be
>> people who could
2008/10/24 David Greaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Quim Gil wrote:
>> More?
>
> I propose:
> * The GPE suite (especially synchronising)
> * Canola (some limitations that become annoying quickly)
(btw. wouldn't support for mesh networking and direct voip calls be
just a killer?)
Anyhow, today at my
Graham Cobb wrote:
> o Extending Opensync to non-PIM objects such as photos.
No, that's probably solved by http://www.conduit-project.org/ already.
Which would be nice to have on Maemo - and (using the search function
there) seems to be kind of available for Maemo already:
http://www.conduit-pr
On Friday 24 October 2008 16:46:12 Sarah Newman wrote:
> David Greaves wrote:
> > I propose:
> > * The GPE suite (especially synchronising)
> > * Canola (some limitations that become annoying quickly)
>
> GPE seconded FWIW. I might be able to help with finger-friendliness and
> maybe location-ba
Hello Quim we develop
http://retromessenger.sf.net and apply as well for nokia support.
Thanks for a feedback
Max
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm a bit surprised about the little discussion generated by our call to
> support cool projects.
>
> http://fl
I would add Pimlico apps from OpenHand...
It would be nice adding Remember the Milk API [1](tasks based in
location)... I've been researching a bit using RTM python API
[1] http://www.rememberthemilk.com/services/api/
2008/10/24, Sarah Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> David Greaves wrote:
> > I pro
I think, PIM's in Handheld devices with GPS should also embrace
location based services.
Traditionally PIM have been a time based application. Other than an
action taking place on a "when", it should also consider actions on a
"where".
~m~
Varghese
>
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:11 AM, David Gr
David Greaves wrote:
> I propose:
> * The GPE suite (especially synchronising)
> * Canola (some limitations that become annoying quickly)
GPE seconded FWIW. I might be able to help with finger-friendliness and
maybe location-based task reminders (as I have the time, no kidding this
is short f
Quim Gil wrote:
> More?
I propose:
* The GPE suite (especially synchronising)
* Canola (some limitations that become annoying quickly)
David
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Hi,
ext Quim Gil wrote:
> I don't know developers not willing to produce software that users find
> amazing and fall in love with. Ok, in fact I know some ;) but you get
> my point.
>
> Differentiation, in the way Nokia understands differentiation, is
> nothing we are looking for in this call.
(let's keep this in -developers to avoid cross-posting to -users as well)
This mail is about the relationship with Linux mainstream in general,
Debian/Ubuntu particularly. Moblin, LiMo, OpenMoko to be considered in
this view as well.
The principle is clear: we want to align as much as possible. T
Thanks for the very good feedback!
There is a common thread going down to the Maemo platform and its
relationship with Debian/Ubuntu aka Linux mainstream. This is a
discussion started many times, let's hope this time we move it forward
to higher stages.
Answering to Till and Neil, who came up wit
Hi,
> Rather than building Maemo up as yet-another-Linux-distro, I'd
> _rather_ see Nokia come inline with upstream and essentially ship
> Ubuntu or Debian, but with their own differentiation on top.
This makes a lot of sense and has been suggested numerous times on
this list already. Dude, an Ubun
On Oct 23, 2008, at 2:26 PM, lakestevensdental wrote:
> If Nokia is really serious about being a larger player, they ought to
> aggressively develop and license the Maemo tablet OS to other
> manufacturers so that it has an opportunity to become a dominant
> player
> in the this growing market
I sense two fundamental problems here.
1. You (Quim) are looking for applications that will help
differentiate the next Internet Tablet. But differentiation is
contrary to the interests of the majority of the community.
2. The timescale is too short. Either people already have most of
their tim
On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 10:19 +0300, Quim Gil wrote:
> And few days ago there were these screenshots of some kind of Inkscape
> lite (couldn't find the link).
This was mostly a menu hack. When I've looked at putting Inkscape on
the tablets there were two basic problems. One, we weren't using GTK
T
Hi,
i see many ports in that list, not only Xournal, but also scummvm etc.
While these are nice apps, i really wonder about the fact that Nokia is planning
to advertise their new plattform with the fact that it now can run software
that has been developed for other plattforms and has been used th
Actually the Xournal developer was working on adding on-line collaboration to
Xournal and I was planning to try to help him as soon as I would have a stable
Diablo version with full Hildon integration.
I am more than welcome to join other Maemo developers on trying to make a
union of all the featu
ext Kamen Bundev wrote:
> Isn't it more logical to wait for the alpha SDK before we start projects
> for Fremantle?
Sure thing, you will need an alpha and even the beta SDK to really know
all the details of what you want to do.
However, you don't need an SDK to think of an existing or a new pro
Aren't we getting too obsessed with the details? :)
ext Dave Neary wrote:
> So, as long as the project is free software, all 3?
Community is a requirement, free software is not. Between a non-profit
developer working in community mood with some freedom (like Henrik when
he started Mauku) or a co
gary liquid wrote:
> I obviously think Nokia can support my project.
ext Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
> Xournal has already been inserted in the list of proposed Fremantle apps.
In an ideal world, a team of excellent developers would collaborate
bringing to Maemo the definitive sketching app thought
Quim,
and of course let us allow that those 1 or 2 could include girls as
well as guys.
Best Regards,
John Holmblad
Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
* *
Quim Gil wrote:
> ext Andrea Grandi wrote:
>
>> I still don't know if I can propose an application that is not started yet.
>>
Hi,
Xournal has already been inserted in the list of proposed Fremantle apps.
Just waiting for the final list to be ... final.
I'll continue my work on Xournal anyway, but knowing that it is among the Star
applications for Maemo 5, would surely boost the time I would spend on it.
:-)
Aniello
On
Hi,
Quim Gil wrote:
> ext Dave Neary wrote:
>> It's a little unclear whether it's targeting volunteer developers
>> working on this in their spare time who might be interested in making a
>> living on it, or companies who are working on free software, or
>> volunteers who just want a hand, but are
Hi,
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 13:14 +0200, ext Andrea Grandi wrote:
> Hi Quim,
>
> > We want to support a bunch of projects getting ready for primetime the
> > same day maemo 5 is released. And we propose the community to help out
> > selecting those projects.
> >
> > What kind of support? Whatever t
Uff I really don't like the point 3 of the Yahoo Terms of Service:
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Yahoo! reserves the right to charge fees for future use of or access
to the Fire Eagle Service, or other Yahoo! services and web sites, in
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> >> My goal is creating a "GPS position sharing" client. What this
> >> application will do? I try to explain in few simple steps...
> >
> > did you see fireeagle?
> >
> > http://fireeagle.yahoo.net/
> >
> > much easier to use this than write something from scratch
>
> that's cool! I'll read th
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Kamen Bundev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Isn't it more logical to wait for the alpha SDK before we start projects
> for Fremantle? At least i don't have right now enough knowledge on the
> maemo 5 platform and what i can do with it. I can start a project now (or
Hi
2008/10/22 Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi
>> My goal is creating a "GPS position sharing" client. What this
>> application will do? I try to explain in few simple steps...
>
> did you see fireeagle?
>
> http://fireeagle.yahoo.net/
>
> much easier to use this than write something from scratch
th
Hi
> My goal is creating a "GPS position sharing" client. What this
> application will do? I try to explain in few simple steps...
did you see fireeagle?
http://fireeagle.yahoo.net/
much easier to use this than write something from scratch
Ian
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2008/10/22 Kamen Bundev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> [Sorry Quim, that was for the list...]
>
> Isn't it more logical to wait for the alpha SDK before we start projects for
> Fremantle? At least i don't have right now enough knowledge on the maemo 5
> platform and what i can do with it. I can start
[Sorry Quim, that was for the list...]
Isn't it more logical to wait for the alpha SDK before we start projects for
Fremantle? At least i don't have right now enough knowledge on the maemo 5
platform and what i can do with it. I can start a project now (or more
likely renew/retarget existing one),
> > 3) you start adding other people to your contact list and you choose
> > if you want to share your GPS position with them (I suppose
> yes, else
> > why you add them?? :P )
>
> There is already a method of providing location data over the
> XMPP/Jabber
> protocol which the built in messenger
> I still don't know if I can propose an application that is
> not started yet.
> Just in case you don't remember, I explain my idea again.
>
> My goal is creating a "GPS position sharing" client. What this
> application will do? I try to explain in few simple steps...
> 3) you start adding
Hi,
> What counts is whether it can be a complete product when Maemo 5 is
> released. The beta SDK is expected to be available on March-May, do your
> math.
>
> What also counts is a developer or a team behind that you can trust. 12
> totally unknown developers with a great and amazing idea count
ext Andrea Grandi wrote:
> I still don't know if I can propose an application that is not started yet.
What counts is whether it can be a complete product when Maemo 5 is
released. The beta SDK is expected to be available on March-May, do your
math.
What also counts is a developer or a team beh
Hi Quim,
> We want to support a bunch of projects getting ready for primetime the
> same day maemo 5 is released. And we propose the community to help out
> selecting those projects.
>
> What kind of support? Whatever those cool projects under development
> need to be stable and exciting for real
> > It's a little unclear whether it's targeting volunteer developers
> > working on this in their spare time who might be interested
> in making a
> > living on it, or companies who are working on free software, or
> > volunteers who just want a hand, but are very happy staying
> volunteers.
>
ext Duncan Cragg wrote:
>>
>> If you have questions ask.
>
> It would help me if you could reply to these questions: my possible
> project depends on the answers..! =0)
>
>
> 1. Will '5' have 3G, but not telephony APIs? - if so, is it possible
> that we'll be able to run VoIP over 3G? (!!
ext Dave Neary wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Frantisek Dufka wrote:
>> Quim Gil wrote:
>>> I'm a bit surprised about the little discussion generated by our call to
>>> support cool projects.
>>>
>>> Was the call so casual that it ended up being unclear?
>> Well, to me it is a bit unclear how Nokia could help
Quim Gil wrote:
> Access to hardware before sales start is expensive and highly regulated.
I see. Well, even at the same time as end users would be very helpful
(=posible discount codes working since day 1).
> Nokia provides such access business-as-usual to certain developers,
> usually through
>
> If you have questions ask.
>
It would help me if you could reply to these questions: my possible
project depends on the answers..! =0)
1. Will '5' have 3G, but not telephony APIs? - if so, is it possible
that we'll be able to run VoIP over 3G? (!!!)..
2. Will '5' have OpenGL|ES 2.0
Hi,
Frantisek Dufka wrote:
> Quim Gil wrote:
>> I'm a bit surprised about the little discussion generated by our call to
>> support cool projects.
>>
>> Was the call so casual that it ended up being unclear?
>
> Well, to me it is a bit unclear how Nokia could help to specific
> projects.
The sa
Hi,
Quim Gil wrote:
> Should we send an email through the garage interface (just once) :)
I'd be happy to send a mail - what would you like me to put in it?
Essentially what you put in your blog post?
Cheers,
Dave.
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Huh, the correction went through sooner than original text, here it is
again, please disregard if you already have it. I don't see it in list
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Original Message
Subject: Re: Projects Nokia should support (yours?)
Date
Frantisek Dufka wrote:
> this should be available to
> anyone who asks/subscribes (even to avoid duplicate effort for same
> issues of self-help from other developers).
s/of/or/
'even to avoid duplicate effort for same issues or allow self-help from
other developers'
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quim,
I obviously think Nokia can support my project.
At present liqbase is a usable beta quality application (which just got
added to extras after an extensive testing run), but I believe it could be
so much more.
I have spent the last 6 months putting together the building blocks of an
expansi
ext Dave Neary wrote:
> I just took care of this.
Good! Still the developer community at large should be involved.
For instance, any list contains "the usual suspects" but there are 705
projects in the garage and probably something really good (and unknown
for most of us today) could come out f
Sorry, it was my fault, it already exists a page for proposals:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Remarkable_community_projects#Proposals_for_Fremantle_Stars
Thanks and best regards,
2008/10/22 Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello Quim,
>
> I am not sure where this list should b
Hi,
Quim Gil wrote:
>> I am not sure where this list should be, but I suppose maemo wiki
>> could be a good place:
>> http://wiki.maemo.org/Projects_Nokia_should_support
>
> In fact the place decided was
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Remarkable_community_projects#Proposals_for_Fremantle_Stars
>
ext Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote:
> Hello Quim,
>
> I am not sure where this list should be, but I suppose maemo wiki
> could be a good place:
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Projects_Nokia_should_support
In fact the place decided was
http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Remarkable_community_projects#P
Hello Quim,
I am not sure where this list should be, but I suppose maemo wiki
could be a good place:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Projects_Nokia_should_support
Sorry, I have added more than 5 projects and not everyone is a real
existing project, but you can edit it and change whatever you want ;-)
Abou
ext Frantisek Dufka wrote:
> Quim Gil wrote:
>> I'm a bit surprised about the little discussion generated by our call to
>> support cool projects.
>>
>> Was the call so casual that it ended up being unclear?
>>
>
> Well, to me it is a bit unclear how Nokia could help to specific
> projects. IMO
Quim Gil wrote:
> I'm a bit surprised about the little discussion generated by our call to
> support cool projects.
>
> Was the call so casual that it ended up being unclear?
>
Well, to me it is a bit unclear how Nokia could help to specific
projects. IMO all developers will benefit from
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