On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 05:40:31PM +0100, Michael Scherer wrote:
2) @mageia.org lessens the personal spam problem, and looks more
official as well.
It doesn't lessen the problem, it move it to someone else ( ie, sysadmin
team ).
But the sysadmin team will have to do this task already anyways
'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 07/03/11 12:53 did gyre and gimble:
> On 5 March 2011 10:41, Buchan Milne wrote:
>> 1)What to use in the From tag in the mail to the changelog list.
>>
>> Mandriva: From: Full Name
>> Mageia: From: Mageia Team
>>
>> IMHO, it is beneficial to have the "name
On 5 March 2011 10:41, Buchan Milne wrote:
> 1)What to use in the From tag in the mail to the changelog list.
>
> Mandriva: From: Full Name
> Mageia: From: Mageia Team
>
> IMHO, it is beneficial to have the "name" of the submitter of the package in
> the From tag, you can easily, from just loo
On Sat, 05 Mar 2011, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
>
> I changed my mind.
> mageiaMaintainer: f...@mageia.org should be mageiaMaintainer: foo at
> mageia.org
> The reason is spammers now use the f...@mageia.org account. I got a spam
> essage
I'm not sure it will stop spam. I think most spammers know
Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 09:05:02 schreef Buchan Milne:
> On Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:43:25 Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > I think we need to have a name and email address. however, some options:
> >
> >
> > A. possibly "cn" could be editable in identity
>
> Please stop referring to possibilities t
On Saturday, March 05, 2011 05:47:32 am Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 09:05:02 schreef Buchan Milne:
> > On Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:43:25 Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > > I think we need to have a name and email address. however, some
> > > options:
> > >
> > >
> > > A. possibly
Op zaterdag 05 maart 2011 10:41:24 schreef Buchan Milne:
[...]
> So, the issues are:
>
> 1)What to use in the From tag in the mail to the changelog list.
>
> Mandriva: From: Full Name
> Mageia: From: Mageia Team
>
> IMHO, it is beneficial to have the "name" of the submitter of the package
>
Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 09:05:02 schreef Buchan Milne:
> On Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:43:25 Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > I think we need to have a name and email address. however, some options:
> >
> >
> > A. possibly "cn" could be editable in identity
>
> Please stop referring to possibilities t
On Friday, 4 March 2011 19:58:31 Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 05:50:23 schreef Anssi Hannula:
> > On 04.03.2011 00:51, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > > Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier:
> > >> On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > >>> Op donderda
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 10:05:02AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
> On Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:43:25 Maarten Vanraes wrote:
>
>
> > I think we need to have a name and email address. however, some options:
> >
> >
> > A. possibly "cn" could be editable in identity
>
> Please stop referring to pos
2011/3/5 Remy CLOUARD :
> On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 08:11:49PM +0100, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
>> Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 20:05:55 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
>> > 2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes :
>> > > well, maybe some belgians don't drink any beer... :-)
>> >
>> > Well, I have lots of witnesses that you do
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 08:11:49PM +0100, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 20:05:55 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
> > 2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes :
> > > well, maybe some belgians don't drink any beer... :-)
> >
> > Well, I have lots of witnesses that you do not belong to this very small
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 07:20:16PM +0100, Tux99 wrote:
>
>
> Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 15:49
>
> > Our mailserver (catering to @mandrivauser.de) does not
> > show such figures. The percentage of our mailserver shows
> > 56.16% accepted, 43.84 rejected. Of these accepted
On Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:43:25 Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> I think we need to have a name and email address. however, some options:
>
>
> A. possibly "cn" could be editable in identity
Please stop referring to possibilities that exist as if they don't ... it is
depressing that people keep as
Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
2011/3/4 Tux99:
Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 13:36
Why? Don't you know how to use filters in your mail client? I guess you
do know.
I have an inbox for each mailing list, my mail client (actually google
mail) stores each mail from all those l
Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
2011/3/4 Tux99:
Quote: Oliver Burger wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 12:30
After all: if you use an address in the mailing list, bugzilla etc. it
is publicly displayed. So what's the matter of displaying the same
adr
nicolas vigier a écrit :
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, andre999 wrote:
Frank Griffin a écrit :
Romain d'Alverny wrote:
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin wrote:
Maarten Vanraes wrote:
C. how about we make@packages.mageia.org, which could use the
maintainers database to forward the ema
Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 20:05:55 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
> 2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes :
> > well, maybe some belgians don't drink any beer... :-)
>
> Well, I have lots of witnesses that you do not belong to this very small
> group! Sorry for the OT!
haha, i think you will have to doublecheck tho
2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes :
>
> well, maybe some belgians don't drink any beer... :-)
Well, I have lots of witnesses that you do not belong to this very small group!
Sorry for the OT!
--
wobo
Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 19:41:59 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
> 2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes :
> > Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 19:23:51 schreef Tux99:
> >> Quote: Maarten Vanraes wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 19:15
> >>
> >> > to be honest, i reread this thread a few times, and i have no idea...
> >> > i
> >
Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 19:52:27 schreef nicolas vigier:
> On Fri, 04 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier:
> > > On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > > > Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
> > > > > O
2011/3/4 nicolas vigier :
>
> Actually I don't remember receiving any email from users who found my
> email in a rpm changelog. And if that happens, answering with the URL of
> bugzilla does not take so much time. So I don't think that's a problem.
In cases any user will contact a packager directl
On Fri, 04 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier:
> > On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > > Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
> > > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin wrote:
> > > > > Maarte
2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes :
> Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 19:23:51 schreef Tux99:
>> Quote: Maarten Vanraes wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 19:15
>>
>> > to be honest, i reread this thread a few times, and i have no idea... i
>> >
>> > clarified my point, but i donno why i was making such a point in the
>>
Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 19:23:51 schreef Tux99:
> Quote: Maarten Vanraes wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 19:15
>
> > to be honest, i reread this thread a few times, and i have no idea... i
> >
> > clarified my point, but i donno why i was making such a point in the
> > first
> > place, cause it does
Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier:
> On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
> > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin wrote:
> > > > Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > > >> C. how about we make @package
On Fri, 04 Mar 2011, Tux99 wrote:
>
>
> Quote: Oliver Burger wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 12:30
>
> > Tux99 schrieb am 2011-03-04
> > > Forgot to add:
> > > the primary email address in the mageia-identity db should only be
> > > used for comm
Quote: Maarten Vanraes wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 19:15
>
> to be honest, i reread this thread a few times, and i have no idea... i
>
> clarified my point, but i donno why i was making such a point in the
> first
> place, cause it doesn't seem to make any sense...
Hmmm, it's Friday evening,
Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 15:49
> Our mailserver (catering to @mandrivauser.de) does not
> show such figures. The percentage of our mailserver shows
> 56.16% accepted, 43.84 rejected. Of these accepted mails
> our spam filter shows 20% spam (average). Accordingly the
>
Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 19:01:09 schreef nicolas vigier:
> On Fri, 04 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 05:50:23 schreef Anssi Hannula:
> > > On 04.03.2011 00:51, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > > > Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier:
> > > >> On Thu,
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, andre999 wrote:
> Frank Griffin a écrit :
>>
>> Romain d'Alverny wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin wrote:
>>>
Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> C. how about we make@packages.mageia.org, which could use the
> maintainers database to forward the em
On Fri, 04 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 05:50:23 schreef Anssi Hannula:
> > On 04.03.2011 00:51, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > > Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier:
> > >> On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > >>> Op donderdag 03 maart
Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 05:50:23 schreef Anssi Hannula:
> On 04.03.2011 00:51, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier:
> >> On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> >>> Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
> On Thu,
2011/3/4 Tux99 :
>
> Well if you are happy with that then that's great for you.
> Here are the stats of my mail server for a single week:
>
> 122 received
> 126 delivered
> 0 forwarded
> 4 deferred (7 deferrals)
> 0 bounced
> 51124 rejected (99%)
>
> rejected is
I am in favour, of "should/would".
> The pros (as in "yes one should"):
> - that is the common way used in MDV and other major distributions
> - (email or name) it identifies the author of a change to the project/code
> - (email) it helps identifying & contacting directly someone in the
> proje
Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 13:57
> My experience of the last 3 years shows that the spam I get is very
> low.
> Spam escaping Google's spam filter is around 3-4 per week.
> Spam in Google's spam folder is between 15-25 per day, but that does
> not bother me anyway.
Well
2011/3/4 Tux99 :
>
> Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 13:36
>
>> Why? Don't you know how to use filters in your mail client? I guess you
>> do know.
>> I have an inbox for each mailing list, my mail client (actually google
>> mail) stores each mail from all those lists in its own
Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 13:36
> Why? Don't you know how to use filters in your mail client? I guess you
> do know.
> I have an inbox for each mailing list, my mail client (actually google
> mail) stores each mail from all those lists in its own box.
It has got nothin
2011/3/4 Tux99 :
>
> Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 13:13
>>
>> Subscribing to lists hosted on Mageia is done with the mail address
>> given in identity.mageia.org.
>>
>
> Ok I see, I haven't subscribed to any of those yet so I didn't know that.
> But that's again IMHO not a go
Tux99 schrieb am 2011-03-04
> And you can continue doing that, my suggestion doesn't force anyone
> to use multiple addresses, but if gives you the choice if you
> want to. Multiple email addresses is common practice
It is? Haven't met many people using that except on a private/work
basis...
But
Quote: Oliver Burger wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 13:19
>
> Which is in my opinion is unneccessary and a bit unfriendly to your
> communication partners. I use the same mail address, the same nickname
>
> and the same real name everywhere so people have a chance of
> recognising me.
And you ca
Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 13:13
>
> Subscribing to lists hosted on Mageia is done with the mail address
> given in identity.mageia.org.
>
Ok I see, I haven't subscribed to any of those yet so I didn't know that.
But that's again IMHO not a good idea, we should be able
Tux99 schrieb am 2011-03-04
> I think you misunderstood me, I'm not talking about multiple
> accounts, just a second email address associated with the existing
> mageia account.
You do on the old mailman lists, you won't on the new sympa lists
because you use your identity login there.
> I don't
2011/3/4 Tux99 :
>
> Quote: Oliver Burger wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 12:30
>
>
>> After all: if you use an address in the mailing list, bugzilla etc. it
>> is publicly displayed. So what's the matter of displaying the same
>> adress in the chang
Quote: Oliver Burger wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 12:30
> Tux99 schrieb am 2011-03-04
> > Forgot to add:
> > the primary email address in the mageia-identity db should only be
> > used for communication between mageia systems and the user, like
Tux99 schrieb am 2011-03-04
> Forgot to add:
> the primary email address in the mageia-identity db should only be
> used for communication between mageia systems and the user, like
> bugtrack notifications, forum notifications, etc. It should not be
> displayed or made available to the public anyw
Forgot to add:
the primary email address in the mageia-identity db should only be used for
communication between mageia systems and the user, like bugtrack
notifications, forum notifications, etc. It should not be displayed or
made available to the public anywhere.
--
Mageia ML Forum Gateway: h
Quote: Anssi Hannula wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 05:47
>
> On 03.03.2011 16:00, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
> > - public email addresses get spammed
>
> I don't consider this a big issue, the email addresses are readable
> from
> mailing lists etc. in any case.
True but many people (including myse
On 04.03.2011 00:51, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier:
>> On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
>>> Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin wrote:
> Maarten Vanraes w
On 03.03.2011 16:00, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
[...]
> The points to decide here are:
> a) should a contributor provide a public email address, to be used in
> changelogs, commits and everywhere her contribution to the project
> needs an id or contact id? (for instance changelog, commit, document
>
Frank Griffin a écrit :
Romain d'Alverny wrote:
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin wrote:
Maarten Vanraes wrote:
C. how about we make@packages.mageia.org, which could use the
maintainers database to forward the email to maintainers (in case of more)
(this could also be a packagegr
On Thursday, March 03, 2011 07:43:11 am Tux99 wrote:
> Quote: rdalverny wrote on Thu, 03 March 2011 15:27
>
> > So that's already a significant difference from the previous
> > discussion...
>
> It's not, I said that in the other thread too but obviously you never read
> my posts:
> http://magei
Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier:
> On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
> > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin wrote:
> > > > Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > > >> C. how about we make @package
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin wrote:
> > > Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > >> C. how about we make @packages.mageia.org, which could use
> > >> the maintainers database to forw
Romain d'Alverny wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin wrote:
>
>> Maarten Vanraes wrote:
>>
>>> C. how about we make @packages.mageia.org, which could use the
>>> maintainers database to forward the email to maintainers (in case of more)
>>> (this could also be a packagegro
Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin wrote:
> > Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> >> C. how about we make @packages.mageia.org, which could use
> >> the maintainers database to forward the email to maintainers (in case
> >> of more) (th
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin wrote:
> Maarten Vanraes wrote:
>>
>> C. how about we make @packages.mageia.org, which could use the
>> maintainers database to forward the email to maintainers (in case of more)
>> (this could also be a packagegroup. eg: fire...@packages.mageia.org coul
Maarten Vanraes wrote:
>
> C. how about we make @packages.mageia.org, which could use the
> maintainers database to forward the email to maintainers (in case of more)
> (this could also be a packagegroup. eg: fire...@packages.mageia.org could
> refer
> to maintainers of firefox, xulrunner, etc.
Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 15:00:01 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
> Hi there,
>
> in the past few days/hours, on sysadmin list has a discussion arisen
> about publishing packager email into commit/change log; you can check
> the whole thread, here are three starting points of it:
>
> * https://magei
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
>
> The points to decide here are:
> a) should a contributor provide a public email address, to be used in
> changelogs, commits and everywhere her contribution to the project
> needs an id or contact id? (for instance changelog, commit, document
> au
On 3 March 2011 16:00, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
[...]
> The points to decide here are:
> a) should a contributor provide a public email address, to be used in
> changelogs, commits and everywhere her contribution to the project
> needs an id or contact id? (for instance changelog, commit, docume
On 3/3/11, andre999 wrote:
>
> Personnally I like pse...@mageia.org, with real name and direct adresse
> optional.
>
> 1) anyone who wants to can give a phony name anyway.
>
> 2) @mageia.org lessens the personal spam problem, and looks more
> official as well. It will also give Mageia a higher p
Le jeudi 03 mars 2011 à 11:13 -0500, andre999 a écrit :
> 2) @mageia.org lessens the personal spam problem, and looks more
> official as well.
It doesn't lessen the problem, it move it to someone else ( ie, sysadmin
team ).
--
Michael Scherer
Quote: Thomas Backlund wrote on Thu, 03 March 2011 17:21
> Signed-off-by: Random J Developer
>
>
> using your real name (sorry, no pseudonyms or anonymous
> contributions.)
The Linux kernel has more than enough contributors so it can afford to
introduce hurdles that will stop some co
Romain d'Alverny skrev 3.3.2011 16:00:
The points to decide here are:
a) should a contributor provide a public email address, to be used in
changelogs, commits and everywhere her contribution to the project
needs an id or contact id? (for instance changelog, commit, document
authoring)
b) sh
Romain d'Alverny a écrit :
Hi there,
in the past few days/hours, on sysadmin list has a discussion arisen
about publishing packager email into commit/change log; you can check
the whole thread, here are three starting points of it:
* https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-sysadm/2011-March/0029
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 16:26, Michael Scherer wrote:
>> * packagers/contributors [sh|w]ould use & publish their real name (as
>> registered in identity),
>> * packagers/contributors [sh|w]ould publish their contact email (same),
>> * in their contributions to the project (here, in the changelog
Le jeudi 03 mars 2011 à 15:00 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit :
> Hi there,
>
> in the past few days/hours, on sysadmin list has a discussion arisen
> about publishing packager email into commit/change log; you can check
> the whole thread, here are three starting points of it:
>
> * https://mag
Le jeudi 03 mars 2011 11:00:01, Romain d'Alverny a écrit :
> Hi there,
Hello,
[...]
> a) should a contributor provide a public email address, to be used in
> changelogs, commits and everywhere her contribution to the project
> needs an id or contact id? (for instance changelog, commit, document
>
- "Romain d'Alverny" wrote:
> * packagers/contributors [sh|w]ould use & publish their real name
> (as
> registered in identity),
I would just like to note that, during registration on identity, we only prompt
for a 'First name' and 'Surname', however we populate the LDAP attributes
'giv
Quote: rdalverny wrote on Thu, 03 March 2011 15:27
> So that's already a significant difference from the previous
> discussion...
It's not, I said that in the other thread too but obviously you never read
my posts:
http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=2367&goto=7691
&S=afd88a4d
Romain d'Alverny wrote:
> The points to decide here are:
> a) should a contributor provide a public email address, to be used in
> changelogs, commits and everywhere her contribution to the project
> needs an id or contact id? (for instance changelog, commit, document
> authoring)
> b) should a c
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 15:20, Tux99 wrote:
> So the discussion started because some people wanted to change this.
That's why I pointed out several pointers to the initial discussion,
where Thierry asked it to be configured as it used to be in Mandriva
infrastructure.
Note that the existing setup
Romain you forgot to specify that currently aliases are used in the Mageia
packages and no email addresses are included.
So the discussion started because some people wanted to change this.
Well, I repeat my point of view as posted in the other thread:
- each packager should be free to decide
Hi there,
in the past few days/hours, on sysadmin list has a discussion arisen
about publishing packager email into commit/change log; you can check
the whole thread, here are three starting points of it:
* https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-sysadm/2011-March/002946.html
* https://mageia.org/p
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