the list are
```
X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10b1
Precedence: list
Subject: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman3 replaces [ with =?utf-8?q?=5B, why?
List-Id: GNU Mailman developers
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to see why they failed.
Note that you can run things like
```
tox -e qa
tox -e py311-diffcov
```
in your fork (you may need to install tox) to find and fix failures like
these before creating/updating your MR.
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he .bak
file(s) so messages are never lost for this reason.
[1]
https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/core/switchboard.py?ref_type=heads#L151
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due to one
of the core dependencies (aiosmtpd) not supporting 3.10 yet.
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se for new locales?
There won't be a new release just for this.
> No problem anyway, I can patch the Dutch into my local installation when I'm
> done and I figure out how to do that.
Just put the .po on the appropriate place.
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hosted.
In my case, trying this, when I hit "Unsubscribe" after "Cancel and
discard", I got this response
Bad confirmation string
Invalid confirmation string: ff24b71eb376782557629d0503ae28de89486408.
which is expected. This is with Mailman 2.1.39, so the issue may be
fixed
itty/-/merge_requests/454 and
https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/merge_requests/379
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to bootstrap 4. However the string exists in two templates,
templates/hyperkitty/overview.html and
templates/hyperkitty/thread_list.html, and should be translated.
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w thread` you may be able to translate this similarly or you may
need to translate it more like
```
Start a newclass="d-md-none">New thread
```
or even
```
Start a new threadclass="d-md-none">New thread
```
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I have just created https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/989 to
help deal with nonmember issues. Changing the munging of the ultimate
display name is not included in that issue.
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use --- to imply that something is missing. Perhaps ellipsis
would have been a better choice, but we didn't want anything that even
hinted at a domain.
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a tuple, the last
argument of which is a members, why do the above snippets store the
result in a variable called `member`?
The above snippets say member = registrar.register(...)[2]
I.e. member is set to the last element of the 3-tuple.
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=== modified file 'Mailman/CSRFcheck.py'
--- old/Mailman
A CSRF vulnerability has been reported by Riccardo Schirone of RedHat.
This is assigned CVE-2021-44227. I plan to release Mailman 2.1.38 on
Tuesday, 30 November to fix this.
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On 11/12/21 4:01 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Mailman 2.1.36 had a serious bug. Thanks to Joel Lord for finding and
reporting it.
I have just released Mailman 2.1.37 to fix that issue. It is reported at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1950833 and is fixed at
https://bazaar.launchpad.net
ttp://mailman.sourceforge.net/
Mailman 2.1.37 can be downloaded from
https://launchpad.net/mailman/2.1/
https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mailman/
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=== modified file 'Mailman/Cgi/options.py'
--- old/Mailman/Cgi/options.py 2021-10-18 23:56:42 +
+++ new/Mailman/Cgi/options.py 2021-11-03 19:02:21 +
@@ -346,6
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On 10/26/21 12:01 PM, David Gibbs via Mailman-Developers wrote:
Mark:
Is there a patch available for this?
See
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-annou...@python.org/message/GY3EVYWIGK2ERMPS25UA7XDAWWRM2S7Y/
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On 10/20/21 11:43 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 10/19/21 6:28 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Mailman 2.1.35 can be downloaded from
https://launchpad.net/mailman/2.1/
https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mailman/
There is an issue with my upload to gnu.org. Mailman 2.1.35
On 10/19/21 6:28 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Mailman 2.1.35 can be downloaded from
https://launchpad.net/mailman/2.1/
https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mailman/
There is an issue with my upload to gnu.org. Mailman 2.1.35 is not there
yet. I am trying to resolve
and to post a patch
for those who don't want to upgrade to address these issues. This is
scheduled for Tuesday, October 19.
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Has anybody seen anything like this before?
My fault. There was an issue on mpo causing a shunted message
<https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/881>, and I installed a
quick but incorrect patch to fix it which caused this. The patch has
since been removed. I've got a correct fix, but am work
at troubleshooting is needed to fix this issue?
Find the error and traceback in mailman.log.
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unce/
i18n/
lock/
This later configuration works fo importing any of flufl.bounce,
flufl.i18n and flufl.lock, but the former winds up looking in
flufl.bounce-3.0.2-py3.9.egg/ for everything and only finds flufl.bounce
and not the others.
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Because .tox/qa is it's own venv that included all the dependencies
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at least in some cases.
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On 1/29/21 11:48 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Mark Sapiro writes:
>
> > According to <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call> that list
> > is on Mailman 2.1.29. The default message footer separat
that list
is on Mailman 2.1.29. The default message footer separator was changed
from "___" to "-- " as of
Mailman 2.1.24
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log.info('DISCARD: %s', msg.get('message-id', 'n/a'))
to
log.info('DISCARD: %s, reason: %s',
msg.get('message-id', 'n/a')),
msgdata.get('moderation_reasons', 'n/a')
)
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embers --regular --nomail enabled list.example.com
where list.example.com is the actual list id to ensure there are members
who should receive the mail. Then check Mailman's mailman.log and
debug.log for clues. You may need to set
[logging.debug]
level: debug
[logging.error]
level:debug
To g
perKitty until core sends it back to
HyperKitty as part of core's processing of the message.
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everything it does. See
<https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/testing/helpers.py#L462>.
Would you really want testing to leave artifacts behind?
What is your actual goal?
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On 1/3/21 5:22 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
> Tests run that way will use their own sqlite DB which is removed after
> testing. You can use any database you like by configuring it in a file
> containing a [database] section with appropriate class and url
> definitions and then doing
definitions and then doing something like
> MAILMAN_EXTRA_TESTING_CFG=/path/to/db/config python3 -m nose2 -v
> mailman.model.test
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t;https://mail.python.org/archives/search?mlist=mailman-developers%40python.org=affinity>
for some discussion of these.
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now what you mean by "the same thing". See
<https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/mta.html#postfix>
for configuring Postfix for Mailman 3.
Mailman can generate either hash tables or regexp tables. The above doc
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is folded, and the resultant header ends up not folded.
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lly, it
remove all headers that don't match patterns in the
mm_cfg.py/Defaults.py setting ANONYMOUS_LIST_KEEP_HEADERS. By default,
this removes all X-* headers except X-Mailman-*, X-Content-Filtered-By:,
X-Topics:, X-Ack:, X-Beenthere:, X-List-Administrivia: and X-Spam-*.
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of:
http://www.list.org
https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman
http://mailman.sourceforge.net/
Mailman 2.1.34 can be downloaded from
https://launchpad.net/mailman/2.1/
https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mailman/
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ython.org/archives/list/mailman-developers@python.org/message/RB4YHZ77ULQSVIJATYAKVFCYDPNVPLZS/>,
is no longer relevant. Is that correct?
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} in the settings files?
Are the references to postorius.urls commented/removed from urls.py
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http://mailman.sourceforge.net/
Mailman 2.1.33 can be downloaded from
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S/mailman.mo es/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po
Yes, I see that I must have somehow just overlooked the error.
In any case, it's fixed now. Thanks again for reporting these things.
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2.1.32 (05-May-2020)
i18n
Fixed a typo in the S
ater today.
> Q1: how about the htdig patches? 1813 does not seem to be on par with
> 2.1.31. I am using the 2.1.30 patches (version 1812) for now.
I'll get to it.
> Q2: Is the CVE from 2018 going to be used for this vuln or will there be
> a new CVE number assigned?
The repor
On 5/5/20 9:01 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
> Python 2.6 is the minimum supported, but Python 2.7, preferably 2.7.17 -
> the final Python 2 release, is strongly recommended.
It has been brought to my attention that the final Python 2 release is
2.7.18, released April 20, 2020, and tha
ailman/
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Security
- A content injection vulnerability via the options login page has been
discovered and reported by Vishal Singh. This is
configuration and web access to the archives.
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do through the python prompt (>>>)
Where you see something like, e.g.,
>>> dump_json('http://localhost:9001/3.0/lists')
in the docs, translate that URL into
http://:8001/3.0/lists
for your curl command.
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On 4/25/20 5:36 AM, Tom Coradeschi via Mailman-Developers wrote:
>> On 24 Apr 2020, at 10:18 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>>
>> All that notwithstanding, I think this is the best patch for
>> avoiding/fixing the issue.
>>
>> === modified file 'Mailman/Archiver/p
m against the list.
-while i>0 and (L[i-1][0] in lowercase or
+while i>0 and (L[i-1][0] in lowercase[:26] or
L[i-1].lower() in smallNameParts):
i = i - 1
author = SPACE.join(L[-1:] + L[i:-1]) + ', ' + SPACE.join(L[:i])
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`Utils.UnobscureEmail(urllib.unquote(u))`.
urllib.unquote will convert %40 back to @ and UnobscureEmail will ignore
the '@', so all should be good.
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to interoperate with anything outside the Apple ecosystem, everything
will be fine".
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Current Apache requires
...
Require all granted
See "Run-Time Configuration Changes" at
<https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html>.
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2.1.30 (13-Apr-2020)
New Features
- Thanks to Jim Popovitch, there is now a dmarc_moderation_addresses
list setting that can be used to apply dmarc_moderation_action
scription. Now I have
> an email address that is both banned (first) and subscribed (second) to the
> mailing list.
See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/642>. This is fixed in
core 3.3.1. Note however that even though the banned address is
subscribed, it can't post.
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SQLAlchemy generated query should put the ORDER BY clause on the outer
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ng latest version of mailman from gitlab in
> production environment?
We do this on both mail.python.org and lists.mailman3.org as well as my
own production server.
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On 3/11/20 2:33 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote:
> On 3/11/20 2:38 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>> See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/605>
>
> So updating Mailman core via pip did not fix the issue. We had to do the
> following downgrade:
>
> pip inst
On 3/11/20 1:38 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote:
> On 3/11/20 2:38 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>> See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/605>
>
> So how do you apply the fix? Would running the following in a virtual
> environment do it?
>
> pip install --
locale or
>language settings
>I tried googling, but couldn't find anything"
>
>The log that gave the error was /opt/mailman/mm/logs/mailman.log
>
See <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/merge_requests/605>
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ably, it shouldn't parse it at all and just copy it, but this
creates potential issues if we aren't first stripping the original
Reply-To: or if we're adding other items to Reply-To: due to DMARC
mitigation.
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REST API is the
issue. If your list has lots (thousands or maybe fewer on a slow server)
of members, this could be a timeout. mailmanclient is just trying to get
the list bye calling the REST API. This should be OK.
Whats in var/logs/mailman.log for this?
The KeyError comes from Django's at
unning-hyperkitty-on-apache-with-mod-wsgi>
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g visible is the Python Path which is the least interesting
information. What we need to see is the exception and the traceback and
things related specifically to that.
And please no photo's or screen shots. Just copy/paste the relevant info.
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On 2/17/20 3:44 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> Over a month ago, I posted the following announcement particularly
> asking for i18n updates prior to the final release of Mailman 2.1.
>
> To date I have only received updates for the Japanese translation.
I have now received an up
@ritwak p Are you still working on this issue? Please let us know.
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On 1/11/20 7:09 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> I am pleased to announce the release of Mailman 2.1.30rc1.
>
> Python 2.6 is the minimum supported, but Python 2.7 is strongly recommended.
>
> This is a routine bug fix release with a few new features. See the
> attached READ
in
Django's attempt to log the original error, and is not the actual error.
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daily notifications to the owners of the list which of course should be as
> part of the cron job list (but it is not in my case).
>
> FYI, I am using mailman 3.2.3.
`mailman notify` is first available in Mailman 3.3.0.
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2.1.30rc1 (11-Jan-2020)
New Features
- Thanks to Jim Popovitch, there is now a dmarc_moderation_addresses
list setting that can be used to apply
On 1/7/20 7:35 AM, ritwik p wrote:
> Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
>> The comment says
>> # We can't assert anything about member. It will be None when
>> # the workflow we're confirming is an unsubscription request,
>> # and non-None when we're confirming a subscription re
On 1/4/20 5:10 AM, ritwik p wrote:
> Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
>> Because the comment is backwards.
>
> What do you mean by this??
The comment says
# We can't assert anything about member. It will be None when
# the workflow we're confirming is an unsubscription request,
# and n
On 1/4/20 5:13 AM, ritwik p wrote:
> Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
>> That's exactly the issue. The code doesn't fully account for
>> unsubscription. (And comments don't always agree with what the code
>> actually does.)
>
> So basically I need to modify/update/rewrite
tually does.)
> Even if it does, the returns I'm getting are not in conjunction to what is
> written over there.
> I'm getting a token hash AS WELL AS a member which is thus raising the error.
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ed from the `member` table but not from `user` table. Is
> it due to the fact that even if the person is not a member, they can still be
> user??
Yes. The user could be a member of other lists, but even if not the user
remains. This is the subject of
<https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/64
re out the command `commit()` to keep the mentioned change.
In mailman shell everything you change is part of a transaction. At any
point you can commit() to commit the transaction or abort() to abort it.
exit() will exit without committing, but control-D will do an implicit
commit upon exit.
g happened.
> I think my ISP is blocking port 25,
> Is there a workaround to this??
It is not unusual for ISPs to block outbound port 25. You may be able to
use the submission port (587) with TLS authentication if the MX accepts
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On 12/31/19 3:50 AM, ritwik p wrote:
>
> Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
>> It also would have worked if you had put 'unsubscribe' rather than
>> 'unsubs' in the Subject: as 'unsubscribe' is a valid command and
>> 'unsubs' is not.
>
> Why Does postfix reads the "S
mmand: unsubs
> regular_text: No such command: ono
> regular_text:
> regular_text: - Done.
It would have shown a confirmation request if you had either added -m
subaddress=leave to the inject command or put 'unsubscribe' in the Subject:
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y give priority to list email over personal email except in
cases where a list thread is becoming too arcane and is taken off-list.
I.e., if you want to invite me out for a beer, dm/pm is fine, but if you
have a question about Mailman, I prefer it be asked and answered on the
list and in t
evelopment environment to get a feel for everything.
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On 10/7/19 5:37 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
> I'm not at all sure what's actually implemented, but there is a feature
> for pre-approving a post with an Approved: header with a password. This
> is also supposed to work to approve held posts, but approving/discarding
> held posts by
implemented,
and a much better approach is to abandon the Approved: header in favor
of a pgp signature from an owner/moderator.
The other possible use for this password is if a user imported by
import21 wants to authenticate to Django, she might be able to use this
password. I don't think that's the case no
lla_list setting does is
send password reminders to the member lists' -owner or other specified
suffix rather than to the member lists themselves.
Since MM 3 doesn't send password reminders, there's nothing for an
umbrella_list setting to do.
Nothing in MM 3 precludes a list having members which are o
know
> where can I found. I have drilled down both Mailman 2 and Mailman 3 for
> this feature comparison.
UTSL
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