Okay, what I want to do seems conceptually simple:
If a message comes to me with X-Spam-Flag: YES, I want to automatically
move it to junk.
I can make a smart mailbox named Spam which holds all of these messages,
but I can't seem to figure out an event that will do the same sort of
thing. I t
On 11 Jan 2012, at 1:04, Robert Ricci wrote:
> every once in a while to back to the 'real' inbox to weed out the spam
> (spam filter does get false positives, of course), read the infrequent
> lists, etc.
The amount of spam I get is large enough that I simply can't try to keep
up -- I just acce
On 11 Jan 2012, at 7:28, Mike Brasch wrote:
> On 11 Jan 2012, at 8:54, Seebs wrote:
>
>> So I really do want to just move spam to the junk bin unread.
>
> Why do you not filter on server? My provider (fastmail.fm) lets me
> filter via the filter language SIEVE. All
On 11 Jan 2012, at 15:34, Mike Brasch wrote:
> You can move mails wherever I want depending on any desired header
> attribute. This happens at time of receiving mails. You can also
> toggle read status at the same time. You can do all the cool stuff
> directly on server (via Sieve) like in filt
On 11 Jan 2012, at 22:27, Emory L. wrote:
> I always assumed most users prefer to do it all in one place
> server-side, because they have multiple workstations, different MUAs,
> mobile devices and tablets. Needing to make sure a computer is on and
> running MailMate or some other MUA 24x7 to
So, I am sorta old fashioned and actually try to complain about some of
my spam. To do this, in the past, I've been using formail to strip the
last received header (note: Before you point out that this is stupid,
consider that I have a mail setup in which after mail is delivered to my
mailbox
On 23 Jan 2012, at 2:44, Benny Kj?r Nielsen wrote:
> On 21 Jan 2012, at 23:37, Seebs wrote:
>> So "forward" is nearly right,
> I assume you mean ?Forward as Attachment??
Actually, no. MH's forward basically just did "s/^/>/" on the message
and inlined
Issues:
1. I would like a Reply-To-List button.
2. If I drag an address from To to Cc, or vice versa, I think the
default should be to move it rather than duplicating it. I can't see
any benefit to having one address in two recipient fields.
-s
On 25 Jan 2012, at 17:23, Benny Kj?r Nielsen wrote:
> I agree. I use Apples NSTokenField class for the address fields and so
> far I have been unable to track drag'n'drop actions such that I could
> remove an address from a source NSTokenField. If anyone has any code
> which does something like
On 26 Jan 2012, at 1:49, Benny Kj?r Nielsen wrote:
> I almost decided to give an answer to that argument in my first reply
> :-) First, anything is possible and I did not claim that it was not
> possible to do it. I claimed it was non-trivial.
Wait, a perfectly obvious function that any develop
On 26 Jan 2012, at 2:13, Benny Kj?r Nielsen wrote:
> I already subclass NSTokenField and I believe I've googled and read
> everything related to NSTokenField. It took far to long before I gave
> up ;-)
Nooo! Mean Apple, not providing the hooks needed to fix things.
> And speaking of ways to c
I have a script:
{
name = 'Move Second';
events = ( 'account.synchronized' );
select = "(#recipient.address ~ 'seconddomain.com' and
#recipient.address ~ 'othername')";
actions = (
{ type = moveMessage; mailbox = Second; },
);
}
The idea i
On 7 Feb 2012, at 2:47, Benny Kj?r Nielsen wrote:
> 1. The UUID of a smart mailbox (see ~/Library/Application
> Support/Mailboxes.plist)
> 2. A standard mailbox name such as inbox, archive, drafts, sent,
> junk, and trash.
> 3. A full path for a mailbox within an account such a
On 7 Feb 2012, at 3:01, Benny Kj?r Nielsen wrote:
> On 7 Feb 2012, at 9:56, Seebs wrote:
>> BTW, I have a new complaint about this program: It has made my day
>> job much less pleasant, because for Sound Technical Reasons I can't
>> do my work email on a Mac reason
Georgetown U has a clever trick, a link that looks like:
javascript:location.href='mailto:'+String.fromCharCode(103,117,99,111,109,109,64,103,101,111,114,103,101,116,111,119,110,46,101,100,117)+'?'
This has the interesting trait that trying to paste it into a To line
(mistakenly thinking it'll b
In HTML mail, I would like to have some display somewhere (maybe a
status bar or something?) of where a link would go if clicked.
-s
On 20 Mar 2012, at 14:36, Benny Kj?r Nielsen wrote:
> The ticket describes a workaround you may find useful. It uses a
> feature of Apples WebView:
Good enough for me.
Thanks as always!
-s
Enter mailbox A, create a search, go to look in mailbox B, cancel
search, and you're back in mailbox A.
I think this is a bug, but I'm not sure. (My intuition is that
switching mailboxes intrinsically cancels a search, but I think I'd be
fine with the search staying active, and even prefer it;
On 8 May 2012, at 15:43, Benny Kj?r Nielsen wrote:
> By default, it lacks some headers which should be displayed when
> available, so if you add some of them then you are welcome to send me
> the result (for example, Resent headers).
Idle question:
Does the format used for this file have expre
I managed to get a "quick look" window into a different space.
So. It's not visible on the screen with mailmate. If I try to close
the window, I am moved back to the mailmate space. As soon as I go back
to the space with that window, it's visible again.
I was able to move it by dragging it o
On 11 Jun 2012, at 11:02, Bill Cole wrote:
> What you describe is an intrinsically abusive feature.
Yes. The problem isn't "can be abused". The problem is "is an abuse".
Headers are there for a reason, and messing with them is Very Bad Mojo.
-s
If a "new version available" message shows up, ALL processing ceases
until it is answered -- which can result in a heck of a lot of messages
showing up all at once overnight, and also means that mailmate will show
no new messages in the dock until I happen to page by it, see that
window, and cl
So, in searching, I see SPECIFIC headers, and I see "common headers or
body".
Is there any way to search for something in any header, but not
necessarily restricted to addresses?
-s
Printing a message with unloaded remote images loads the remote images
automatically. I am not sure this is desireable. It seems like it might
be nice for it to be conditional or optional.
-s
On 8 Nov 2012, at 15:28, John Roberts wrote:
> This does not work with all applications. Emailing photos from
> Aperture, for example, opens the Apple Mail.app. is there a way to set
> MailMate as the default mail client for all applications?
My guess is no, because some apps may not have so mu
On 8 Nov 2012, at 16:28, Benny Kj?r Nielsen wrote:
> MailMate has the same option in the General preferences pane (?,).
> MailMate also tells you with URL schemes are supported by the chosen
> email client. This is essentially what defines a default email client:
> Which application to open for
So, I talk to a small private mail server with a self-signed cert.
I had cause to update this cert recently.
Next time I opened MailMate, it asked me what to do about this
unfamiliar cert. I told it to trust the cert.
Beachball.
At this point, my system had entered a state wherein ANY activity
It is pretty much a safe bet that, no matter what I *do* want, "show me
the HTML that is used internally by Mailmate to render the plain text
part of this message, but which does not actually occur in the message
in any way" is not it.
I sometimes get mail where the sender has very carefully ad
On 6 Dec 2012, at 3:12, Benny Kj?r Nielsen wrote:
> On 6 Dec 2012, at 5:24, Seebs wrote:
>
>> It is pretty much a safe bet that, no matter what I *do* want, "show
>> me the HTML that is used internally by Mailmate to render the plain
>> text part of this message
On 7 Dec 2012, at 9:58, Benny Kj?r Nielsen wrote:
> Note that ?Show HTML Source? always shows the HTML source
> generated by MailMate. That may in some cases be the HTML part of a
> message, but that is not the (original) point of this option. The
> point was to make it possible for the user to
I recently noticed that all of these are now blank. They still work, I
can still select things, but they look blank. (The pop-ups for things
like sending identity, listing attachments, and so on.)
Only thing I can think of is that I was recently messing with system
font preferences, and it's p
On 8 Apr 2013, at 7:53, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
On 7 Apr 2013, at 8:36, Seebs wrote:
I recently noticed that all of these are now blank. They still work,
I can still select things, but they look blank. (The pop-ups for
things like sending identity, listing attachments, and so on.)
Only
Clicking "search" automatically jumps to All Messages. I almost never
want this, because usually I think first of the mailbox I want to look
in, and second of the possibility that I need to search it. Is there any
way to change this behavior?
-s
___
On 3 Nov 2013, at 2:21, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
And the next time I connected to the new server... Mailmate deleted
all the messages which had previously been considered to be
associated with that account, because they were no longer present on
the server.
Er. That is exactly the opposite
On 3 Nov 2013, at 3:29, Alasdair Muckart wrote:
If you want fetch-and-store rather than server-stored you want
something like POP rather than IMAP. Fetchmail to a local store you
access using IMAP and MailMate would act the way you sound like you
need and could be backed up locally.
That's b
On 3 Nov 2013, at 4:03, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
I hope everything goes well.
For reference: Mailmate crashed once about 60k messages into the
restore, but it appears to have been fairly clean, and the restore is
continuing peacefully. So, the local cache is now repopulated, it's just
gott
On 6 Nov 2013, at 4:08, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
I'll do what I can to make this more unlikely to happen (implement
some of the warnings discussed with Seebs), but in most cases this
problem is not much different than the risk of a local corrupted (or
stolen) disk. The exception i
On 8 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
I should also warn that moving messages from an online account to an
offline account does not work well. Internally, MailMate never deletes
a message from its source mailbox before it has been uploaded to the
destination mailbox (when it's dif
I've had occasional recurrences of a very strange UI glitch with
MailMate recently. The behavior is that, the moment I actually activate
MailMate's window and click on a message, suddenly a ton of messages
appear, all new and unread. No mail appears to be duplicated or lost
here, it's just that
On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:27, Steve Lianoglou wrote:
Are you on Mavericks?
If so, this might be the "App Nap" problem. There was a thread about
this a while back on the mailing list. The root of that thread is
here:
Oh-hoh! Yeah, that's probably it.
Huh. I wonder whether that's why my Server mach
On 13 Apr 2014, at 17:26, Steve Mayer wrote:
I'm going to have to be different here guys. I think that Esc should
continue to do as it's currently doing.
This is starting to feel like a Preference.
I... actually don't know which I want. I think my intuition is that
search should be local to
So, I got no mail today.
... Only actually I got a lot of mail today. And it showed up, and the
inbox was full of bold headings.
But the dock icon for Mailmate didn't show a badge, because there was an
"upgrade and install" prompt up. This seems like a bug.
-s
__
So, I got this useful tip from the list of disabling app nap for
MailMate, and life has been good...
Until this weekend, when Mailmate was pretty quiet and then I clicked on
it and I had 120 messages some three days old.
Whoops.
Is there something else I might need to do? I have double-check
So, I've been using mailmate for ages, works pretty well. Just today, I
started having a new experience. I start typing an address in the To
bar, and there's a very noticeable pause, maybe two or three seconds,
before the autocomplete list shows up.
Do I have too much email or something? Do I
On 29 May 2014, at 20:55, Gustavo Daniel Villarreal wrote:
I am having the same issue, with the letter "a" (addresses starting
with a). This was discussed [previously on the
list](http://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate%40lists.freron.com/msg02038.html) back
in February, but its not clear if it w
On 30 Jul 2014, at 11:22, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
For now, I've added specifiers named `tag` and `notag`, but I've
only added support for the (apparently) most widespread use
of `+` as the delimiter.
FWIW, in vanity domains, hyphens aren't uncommon. Although in vanity
domains, often the wh
Okay, so, I used to have a thing where app nap was keeping Mailmate from
getting mail, probably. Symptom: No mail shows up until I click on the
window, SUDDENLY MAIL.
Today, it did something weirder. I got no mail from about 3 AM to around
6:30 PM. But! I sent outgoing mail during that time. S
On 29 Aug 2014, at 13:45, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
No, I don't think that is related, but I have a new theory (unrelated
to the app nap problem). I've seen a bug myself two or three times the
past month: After sleep, one of my accounts does not take the INBOX
into the IDLE state (the “Connect
I would sort of prefer for "there is no date available" to be replaced
with either Some Other Date, or treated as newer than any date rather
than older than any date. Some mail (thus far, exclusively spam) comes
in with no date header, and if I have an inbox sorted by date received,
it gets sho
On 6 Oct 2015, at 16:44, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
Agreed. As far as I can see then this would only happen if a message
has neither Date header nor any Received headers. I guess I should
just make “Date Received” default to the current date (the first
time MailMate sees it).
D'oh. I meant "D
Sometimes mailmate gets into a state wherein I have a paragraph, and a
blank line, and more text. And then something happens such that, if I
enter text at the beginning of the line after that, mailmate inserts
another blank line.
And I am not sure what causes this, and I can't produce it on pu
So I have some rules, which appear to work. And I have other rules,
which... don't seem to. And I am not sure what I'm missing. But I
vaguely recall there having been an option for turning on logging so I
could see more information about rules.
As an example, consider the script MoveMlmt.mmCom
So, plain text emails are now displaying in a non-fixed-width font.
This is not ideal. But I can't find a way to change it. There's a "theme
for plain text emails is:" thing in preferences, which appears to have
some very subtle effect on rendering.
Also, there's a "show fonts" button in Font
On 1 Sep 2016, at 12:56, Rob McBroom wrote:
On 1 Sep 2016, at 13:46, Seebs wrote:
So, plain text emails are now displaying in a non-fixed-width font.
This is not ideal. But I can't find a way to change it.
Do you have a custom stylesheet as described at
https://manual.mailmate-ap
On 1 Sep 2016, at 14:09, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
On 1 Sep 2016, at 21:05, Seebs wrote:
I note also, on the main window, the toolbar no longer works in
text-only. Instead of textual buttons for the three actions, you get
the word "Actions". I actually really liked having butto
On 1 Sep 2016, at 14:24, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
On 1 Sep 2016, at 21:20, Seebs wrote:
So is there a straightforward way to indicate "please only send plain
text,
even if I do a thing which might otherwise suggest I'm thinking about
HTML"?
Not quite sure I understood the e
So, I found out how to trigger this. All I have to do is not notice that
markup language "markdown" was selected, and put *asterisks* around a
thing.
So apparently what actually caused some of the strangeness is that
markdown was turned on-by-default in the recent patch, maybe? And that
means
I have an 8GB machine (2015 13" MBP) which has taken to getting oddly
slow lately, as though overloaded by something. Poking around, I did
notice that a lot of apps have fairly large memory footprints, and a lot
of "compressed" memory. And one of the larger apps is Mailmate, now at
~500MB. (Fir
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