[MeeGo-community] invitation...

2011-09-29 Thread Jos Poortvliet
Dear MeeGo friends! Many people in your community wonder where to go since the Tizen announcement. At a MeeGo meet in Tampere, many expressed concerns: can we contribute to Tizen? How long will it last *this time*? How will Samsung behave? I know many of you are concerned about loosing the grea

Re: [MeeGo-community] Tizen: who is left then?

2011-09-29 Thread quim.gil
> http://nomovok.com/news/57/73/Nordic-System-Integrators-Welcome-Open-Source-Initiative-Tizen Pasi, I'm speaking for myself but it would be great to see the companies involved in that press releases creating a critical mass of Qt-Tizen maintenance taking ownership of the corresponding areas in

Re: [MeeGo-community] Tizen: who is left then?

2011-09-29 Thread quim.gil
To clarify things: > The impression I've gotten over the last few months was that Nokia was > reducing their investment in Qt ... Some measurable facts beyond personal impressions: New Qt SDK release today. Currently there is ongoing work for 3 Qt releases (4.7, 4.8 and 5). As I'm writing thi

Re: [MeeGo-community] [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Robin Burchell wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Nasa wrote: >>> So I'll shed some light on how I see this and how we should proceed: >>> >>> 1) Concentrate on the handset and *ONLY* on it from now onward. "Do >>> one thing and do it best (tm)". >>

Re: [MeeGo-community] [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 16:37, Robin Burchell wrote: > > Personal area of interest, perhaps. Anyway, we don't need to exclude > anyone here - anyone can come and play ball. In my view of the ideal > MeeGo universe, UX is entirely seperate projects from MeeGo itself - > MeeGo Core is just the basic

Re: [MeeGo-community] [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi, On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Nasa wrote: >> So I'll shed some light on how I see this and how we should proceed: >> >> 1) Concentrate on the handset and *ONLY* on it from now onward. "Do >> one thing and do it best (tm)". >> > > Why would you exclude 4/5 of the people involved in the meeg

Re: [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Robin Burchell wrote: > Obviously, we'd probably need to rethink some things like project > governance, infrastructure, etc - but provided these can be solved, > what do you all think? Can it be business as usual? > I believe so. In fact I think this could actually

Re: [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread John Veness
On 29/09/2011 15:12, Andrew Flegg wrote: How long until LF/Intel turn off *.meego.com? I guess LF will keep *.meego.com running as long as someone can pay for it, which obviously doesn't have to be Intel. I expect it's expensive, though. Anyone know the monthly bill to keep all the kit runnin

Re: [MeeGo-community] Tizen: who is left then?

2011-09-29 Thread Knut Yrvin
On Torsdag 29. september 2011, ext Andreas J. Thorvaldsen wrote: > BTW Qt: From Google news it seems Nokia is up to something today. We are constantly working on a lot of interesting Qt technology, helping application developers in 70 different industries, free software communities, including

Re: [MeeGo-community] Tizen: who is left then?

2011-09-29 Thread Robin Burchell
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Robinson Tryon wrote: > So from Nokia's perspective, the preferred development platform for > Meego/Tizen will still be Qt, is that correct? I don't know if Nokia can speak for Tizen, as they aren't involved, but the preferred development platform for MeeGo is Qt.

Re: [MeeGo-community] Tizen: who is left then?

2011-09-29 Thread Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
On Thursday 29 Sep 2011 15:25:05 Robinson Tryon wrote: > I share your enthusiasm for a cross-platform toolkit like Qt, however > I expect that many will be hesitant to invest in any framework not > supported by Nokia's latest line of mobile devices. Is there any > chance that Nokia will make Qt ava

Re: [MeeGo-community] Tizen: who is left then?

2011-09-29 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Knut Yrvin wrote: > > To be blunt Pau Garcia, Kate got it right. Here is why: Thanks for replying, Knut. I think it's very helpful for the community to get a better understanding of the game plans of the commercial partners of Meego and Tizen, and it's nice that y

Re: [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 15:03, Robin Burchell wrote: > So Intel has upped and gone Tizen. What I wonder is: does this have to > actually spell the end of MeeGo? No, but as you address - infrastructure is one of the biggest things. How long until LF/Intel turn off *.meego.com? > Obviously, we'd p

[MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Robin Burchell
So Intel has upped and gone Tizen. What I wonder is: does this have to actually spell the end of MeeGo? In the past few days, we have seen that there is definitely a community of individuals wanting to continue building products using Qt (or simply writing apps using Qt on mobile), and MeeGo Core

Re: [MeeGo-community] Tizen: who is left then?

2011-09-29 Thread t . swindell
I think it's safe to say if Nokia are cooking a Linux based system it will more likely be based on Maemo/Harmattan principles. Though there is no definitive information on any of this actually happening and for all we know it could just be a kernel with Qt slapped on top maybe using X11 or Wayla

Re: [MeeGo-community] Tizen: who is left then?

2011-09-29 Thread Andreas J. Thorvaldsen
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:13:15 +0200, Knut Yrvin wrote: On Onsdag 28. september 2011, ext Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: Is this a joke? To be blunt Pau Garcia, Kate got it right. Here is why: Symbian will be supported until at least 2016[1]. As we speak there are ... BTW Qt: From Google news

Re: [MeeGo-community] Tizen: who is left then?

2011-09-29 Thread t . swindell
Knut, That was a brilliant description of why Qt is here to stay in the Mobility sector as well as a good overview of why people should continue using and pick up this (Qt) development framework :) Thanks, Tom. On 29/09/2011 14:13 Knut Yrvin wrote: On Onsdag 28. september 2011, ext Pau Garci

Re: [MeeGo-community] Tizen: who is left then?

2011-09-29 Thread Knut Yrvin
On Onsdag 28. september 2011, ext Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: > Is this a joke? To be blunt Pau Garcia, Kate got it right. Here is why: Symbian will be supported until at least 2016[1]. As we speak there are +9 million apps downloads to Symbian daily. Many of those are made with Qt. The German

Re: [MeeGo-community] Tizen: who is left then?

2011-09-29 Thread Jonay Santana
Do you have "official" info stating that Qt will be a core part of Tizen? On 9/29/11, pasi nieminen wrote: > FYI, from our perspective we see this as an extension to current MeeGo, and > we'll continue supporting Qt as well. The big thing here is HTML5 apps that > would be an addition to native o

Re: [MeeGo-community] Tizen: who is left then?

2011-09-29 Thread pasi nieminen
FYI, from our perspective we see this as an extension to current MeeGo, and we'll continue supporting Qt as well. The big thing here is HTML5 apps that would be an addition to native ones. http://nomovok.com/news/57/73/Nordic-System-Integrators-Welcome-Open-Source-Initiative-Tizen Regs, Pasi

Re: [MeeGo-community] Tizen: who is left then?

2011-09-29 Thread Silke Oberle
As there has been some speculation about the future of Qt in the mobile space we would like to make you aware of the fact that WeTab OS will continue to support its multi technology environment including Qt. If you are interested see also our press release: http://www.wetab-community.com/index

Re: [MeeGo-community] Tizen: who is left then?

2011-09-29 Thread Peter Jespersen
Den 29-09-2011 10:55, Graham Cobb skrev: On Thursday 29 September 2011 06:10:45 Peter Jespersen wrote: Nokias primary contribution to the MeeGo project has been Qt and submits to Handset UX (plus delivering the N900/N9/N950 for developers to test on) - Qt is the crucial point here, but most

Re: [MeeGo-community] Tizen: who is left then?

2011-09-29 Thread Graham Cobb
On Thursday 29 September 2011 06:10:45 Peter Jespersen wrote: > Nokias primary contribution to the MeeGo project has been Qt and submits > to Handset UX (plus delivering the N900/N9/N950 for developers to test > on) - Qt is the crucial point here, but most of it has been GPL'ed - you > exaggerate t

Re: [MeeGo-community] Fwd: Tizen: who is left then?

2011-09-29 Thread Graham Cobb
On Thursday 29 September 2011 07:22:15 Thom Cherryhomes wrote: > To those with the money: > > * You tied the hands of the community leaders. Time and time again, to do > what amounted to making sure that your own short term financial interests > were kept, at the expense of a potential community o

Re: [MeeGo-community] Tizen: who is left then?

2011-09-29 Thread Martin Grimme
2011/9/29, Alison Chaiken : > Martin Grimme writes: >> At least the WeTab MeeGo tablet will transition to Tizen. > > Do you know that for a fact? Has 4Tiitoo announced Tizen participation? Just let the events unfold. After the dust has settled we'll sure know more. 4tiitoo is a commercial MeeGo