You have more chance of being able to change things for the better being
within the club than standing on the outside and complaining about how
things are run. I have issues with the local MB club as well but I do not
whinge about it. I do state my views if people ask but I am not white anting
Besides, WHERE DO YOU THINK YOUR CUSTOMERS COME FROM?
_
Frank Pembleton
Manchester, MO
KLEB FOR PREZ!!
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From: Hendrik Riessen
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 7:14 PM
You have more chance of being able to change things for the better being
I just don't associate with this kind of group. why would i want to be in a
club where bob beltz and george murphy try to get the FBI after me because i
don't agree with them? I am as puzzled why any of you would want to belong
to such a club as you seem to be puzzled why I would not want to
OK Gary, you owe us a story. And a good one at that.
Chris K
Cayce, SC
- Original Message -
From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] JOINED MBCA
I just don't associate with
most of my customers actually come from google. very few mention MBCA in
any context
i'm happy that you like your club. It's just not something i feel I can be
part of because of how representatives of the club behaved during my time of
membership.
I'm not against the MBCA. enjoy it.
On
A woman who works with my wife has a really nice 83 CD she has kept
stored for a number of years. We had expressed interest in the car
when my wife understood it to be a SD, and wanted to purchase. Since I
learn it is not SD, I do not need it.
It is a white with leather, all the options and
I thought it was a pretty well known story, but i will tell my version of it
anyway.
once upon a time, there was a mailing list for MBCA members. It was a
fairly benign list, but some of the content seemed to offend George Murphy,
who then shut down the list.
This really rubbed me the wrong
I am still not sure why I gave luther a pass into the SDL club. Im not
sure he is worthy yet.
Loren Faeth wrote:
Aye, Skipper!
I was just ribbing you a lil, The 126 Is the best road (trekking) car ever
made, with the possible exception of the 6.9 and the 600. Welcome to the
SDL club.
I need to find out if my membership has ran out or something, I dont
recall getting a magazine in a while.
Chuck Landenberger wrote:
Gary,
I joined MBCA in 1989 and have stuck with the club in various
sections in various positions.. I am a candidate for a Director at
Large position in
Yes but you are condeming a whole organisation because of the actions of a
few people and then calling them names on a mail list. Sounds like you have
some issues and using Kaleb's list to vent your anger.
Of course there is going to be members who are only interested in having
power and
Gary,
If a buddy of yours did something that hurt you personally EIGHT
years ago, would you still not talk to him today...
MBCA is a club that has endured some bad times and the times they
are achangin'.
The Peachtree Section has lots of very nice events and you might even
My first encounter with Beltz was years ago at Gemutleichtkeit (sp) when it
was at Elkhart lake. He was one of the people I didn't want to be
around. One year, his wife, Anna rolled her car on the course, and they
laughed about it. Now if I had just rolled a new $40k car on a track where
my
If my buddy narced me out to the freakin FBI for something I did not do I
would NEVER forgive him.Eight years or 80 that is just wrong.
Mike
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 09,
You don't know Hurst, do you?
_
Frank Pembleton
Manchester, MO
KLEB FOR PREZ!!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ]
how much does she want?
On 10/9/06, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A woman who works with my wife has a really nice 83 CD she has kept
stored for a number of years. We had expressed interest in the car
when my wife understood it to be a SD, and wanted to purchase. Since I
learn it is not
Kathy WAS on the right side.
May she rest in peace.
_
Frank Pembleton
Manchester, MO
KLEB FOR PREZ!!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Loren Faeth
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:38 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Mike,
Can't speak from a position of knowing it for sure, but a lot of
bluffing was going on back then. As for me, if my buddy did
call the FBI and nothing happened He would still be my friend and
laugh about it over a beer or three! That's how I am.. Nobody
has to agree
No, not yet...!
Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:01 PM, Frank Pembleton wrote:
You don't know Hurst, do you?
_
Frank Pembleton
Manchester, MO
KLEB FOR PREZ!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of
Frank,
I knew Kathy for a number of years and know that she was on the right
track about MBCA
What happened to her as regards MBCA is a dark spot... She was
a members' President of MBCA..
Take care,
Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:05 PM, Frank Pembleton wrote:
Several weeks ago, I posted asking if leaking delivery valve seals
could cause the SDL to take a full minute of cranking to start.
Someone suggested that it could be possible. I did see fuel pooling
between # 4 and #5, and didn't see any other leaks.
I finally managed to get the seals replaced -
Gary is telling one episode that concerns him. There are numerous others,
involving people now passed into memory from previous lists.
I can assure you that had you been present back when that certain cabal
effectively seized control of MBCA, you *might* not argue this issue.
Unless you condone
I don't even much know hurst. he's a strange fellow.
On 10/9/06, Frank Pembleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You don't know Hurst, do you?
_
Frank Pembleton
Manchester, MO
KLEB FOR PREZ!!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf
Having worked in the photo, graphics, and publishing business myself
for 20 years before moving to the dark side (IT), and having been a
member of MBCA for one year to get the Star - I have to agree.
Oh, and just to turn your crank: I have been in writing/editing/publishing
for 20+ years. For
i never took them seriously. Like most bullies, they are all huff and
bluff.
it's just sick that officials of an organization would engage in this sort
of behavior. what kind of organization even tolerates such people let alone
assigns them positions of responsiblity? why would i want
Mac,
No Kevlar or Nomex needed.. and I got CAPS!
I agree with most of what you have experienced. But, and a large
BUT, I believe there will be changes in MBCA. And, if elected as a
DAL, I will work to make history NEVER happen again.
History is something that is there and
Gary,
I can't deal with yesterday. All my attention is on TOMORROW!
Chuck
Phoenix, AZ
On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:35 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
i never took them seriously. Like most bullies, they are all huff and
bluff.
it's just sick that officials of an organization would engage in
this
She is not aware of the value of the model. It depends on her vision
of return on investment and what she is offered before it hits the
market. I would be surprised if she sells for under $3k
On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:02 PM, Sunil Hari wrote:
how much does she want?
On 10/9/06, Redghost
well, yeah, y'know, that's your thing. and my tomorrow thing doesn't
involve MBCA.
this is pretty insane. it's like i have to justify why i don't eat mashed
potatoes. I don't like mashed potatoes. i don't like mbca. i don't mess
with either.
i like old mercedes cars. i like the internet.
Usually idle control valve sticking shut, but leaking ICV hoses will
contribute, too.
A bad fuel pump relay is a possibility -- does it occasionally stall at
low speed/light throttle?
Peter
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/217954922.html
ONly wants $1500
--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner
1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Hey Gary,
Have a good tomorrow.. We all make decisions and I wasn't
trying to change your mind...
Maybe we can shake and have a brew someday and say we both done
good..!!!
Take care,
Chuck
Phoenix AZ
1992 500E
1986 190E 2.3 16V...
PS. Yup, it is insane..
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/217395991.html
--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner
1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
I don't know much about the new ones, but the old ones are kinda special
a couple of years ago one of our customers walked in and explained that his
new wife wanted his ratty benz out of their fancy driveway. so i bought it
from him
it's a 79 US spec 280CE. I had no real use for it and it sat
I was going to offer $2k for it, and hope she bit. The extra money would go
to shipping it to me.
On 10/9/06, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
She is not aware of the value of the model. It depends on her vision
of return on investment and what she is offered before it hits the
market. I
Damn, if that hadn't lost it's timing chain, I'd pay Kaleb to go get it.
--
Luther KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case?
'83 300SD (241 kmi)
'82 300CD (162 kmi)
'82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work
Quoting Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Damn, if that hadn't thrown a timing chain, I'd pay Kaleb to go get it...
--
Luther KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case?
'83 300SD (241 kmi)
'82 300CD (162 kmi)
'82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work
Quoting Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I wish it was on the East Coast!
I wonder what other Diesel engines would fit and mate to the tranny without
modifications? I'm thinking about W123 300D Turbo's or W124 300D Turbo's.
I guess those are 601, 602 and 603 engines?
Sorry I don;t know the proper engine numbers, I tend to learn
Hi Chuck,
I'm in the Central Va section - I live in Chester, Va which is about 20
mi S or Richmond off I-95. Our Newsletter is published 5-6 X's per year.
Would be glad to see you when you come thru this next of the woods -- ;-)
Where are you located? -
Thanks for the info --
Larry T
I can sortof agree with you but if he CALLED he was wrong...friends
don't narc on each otherIt's a matter of trust. Bluffing is one thing,
calling the law is another.
Mike
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From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List
If someone has a carfax account, would they mind running this for me?
3GKFK16Z33G183706
Thanks!
Dave Wakin
AgreedI'm worried I am agreeing with Gary.
Mike
- Original Message -
From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] JOINED MBCA
i never took them seriously. Like most
LarryT wrote:
I wish it was on the East Coast!
I wonder what other Diesel engines would fit and mate to the tranny without
modifications? I'm thinking about W123 300D Turbo's or W124 300D Turbo's.
123-no, 124-yes.
I guess those are 601, 602 and 603 engines?
Those would work. In USA,
Mike Canfield wrote:
I can sortof agree with you but if he CALLED he was wrong...friends
don't narc on each otherIt's a matter of trust. Bluffing is one thing,
calling the law is another.
How about using club money to pay a lawyer to bluff you?
Mitch.
Well that's just wrong as well.That's no better than stealing,
misappropriation at the least.
Ridiculous really for club executive behavior.
Childish even
Mike
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From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent:
I was disinclined to do the center mount replacement, so dropped SLC off to
George of Valley Wagon, Carson City. As it turns out it was both the mount
and one of the flex discs. Thanks for the diagnoses.
I furnished parts, and the labor for 2 flex discs, ctr. mount bearing, and
diff.
I have a 3.5 engine sitting in my garage. Im fixing to get some
shipping quotes.
LarryT wrote:
I wish it was on the East Coast!
I wonder what other Diesel engines would fit and mate to the tranny without
modifications? I'm thinking about W123 300D Turbo's or W124 300D Turbo's.
I guess
Report Run Date: 10/10/2006
Vehicle Description: 3GKFK16Z33G183706
TitleCheck: No Record Reported to AutoCheck
Problem Check: No Record Reported to AutoCheck
Odometer Check: Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck
Vehicle Information: No Record Reported to AutoCheck
Full History: Record(s)
Steve's right - and I still have most of the emails that flew baak and forth
when the whole thing came to a head a few years ago. Steve mentioned the
Roundel as a proper club magazine - I'm not familiar with Roundel but will
offfer the Porsche Club monthly as a favorable comparison - PCA
Thanks Kaleb!
Dave Wakin
- Original Message -
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax please
Report Run Date: 10/10/2006
Vehicle Description: 3GKFK16Z33G183706
The antifreeze sold at the Caltex stations has the MB compliant #s and
a life span upto 5 years on a scale.
mak
I believe the problem with using non-MB antifreeze in MB engines is it
attacks the alum head components.
Did you ever solve the temp gauge problems in the Ford?
Larry T (67
Hi
I have cleaned the ICV and also the pins of the pump relay . seems to be
perfect in idling again.
Originally It had stalled twice over a period of a few minutes and very
reluctantly restarted.
Hopefully all is well again.
regards
mak
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From: Peter
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 16:35:09 -0400, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Stephen D Murrell wrote:
anyone know of this WORLD PAC co. that you must HAVE A RESALE # TO
GET
PRICES OR PARTS?? and are THEY that much cheaper?
I'm sure they are much cheaper from Rusty than from your local
Ooooh, well I suppose when that sort of money is involved people will do all
sorts of nasty things to squeeze the goose that lays the golden eggs. Sounds
to me like there are not enough checks and balances in place to keep things
fair and honest.
Hopefully the club can sort itself out and
I belong to a woodworking club, on the board, and we just recently went
through an incorporation for legal reasons. The club had been going
along in some non-legal form for many years but because of liability
issues for the directors (figuring at some point someone will sue us for
a hangnail
If she gets wind of prices in PDX, I think she may just take it to
Oregon and make a mint. Hope she sells it for reasonable to one of you
On Oct 9, 2006, at 9:42 PM, Sunil Hari wrote:
I was going to offer $2k for it, and hope she bit. The extra money
would go
to shipping it to me.
On
that is my point. why belong to a club that behaves this way?
so i don't belong to it anymore
On 10/10/06, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well that's just wrong as well.That's no better than stealing,
misappropriation at the least.
Ridiculous really for club executive behavior.
D'OH!
I recently went through a similar exercise by undertaking
fun-but-unneeded-fixes to staunch leaking fuel from several places on the
1985 300CD.
On 10/9/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Several weeks ago, I posted asking if leaking delivery valve seals
could cause the SDL to take a
C'mon, Gary...you gotta like mashed potatoes. Everyone likes mashed
potatoes. How can you justify not liking mashed potatoes?
Chris K
Cayce, SC
this is pretty insane. it's like i have to justify why i don't eat mashed
potatoes. I don't like mashed potatoes.
Besides, we have our own club. It is in cyberspace, but it is a club
in almost every sense. We have no clubroom or magazine, but we also pay
no dues. I like it.
Tom Potter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
Sent: Tuesday, October
Sorry, but I think Roundel is one LAME name for a car magazine, even for
one as annoying as a BMW,,,
On 10/9/06, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mac,
No Kevlar or Nomex needed.. and I got CAPS!
I agree with most of what you have experienced. But, and a large
BUT, I
the only thing i like less than mashed potatoes are sig pistols!
On 10/10/06, Chris Kueny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
C'mon, Gary...you gotta like mashed potatoes. Everyone likes mashed
potatoes. How can you justify not liking mashed potatoes?
Chris K
Cayce, SC
this is pretty insane.
Fine, I'll pick yours up when I'm there. No need to thank me.
Chris K
Cayce, SC
- Original Message -
From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] JOINED MBCA
the only thing i like
you'll have to pry my 8mm FN-49 battle rifle out of my cold dead hand
though.
On 10/10/06, Chris Kueny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fine, I'll pick yours up when I'm there. No need to thank me.
Chris K
Cayce, SC
- Original Message -
From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes
Could you pitch an offer of $2000 for me?
On 10/10/06, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If she gets wind of prices in PDX, I think she may just take it to
Oregon and make a mint. Hope she sells it for reasonable to one of you
On Oct 9, 2006, at 9:42 PM, Sunil Hari wrote:
I was going to
The current Star Magazine says that a new publisher is taking over starting
with the next issue.
On 10/10/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ooooh, well I suppose when that sort of money is involved people will do
all
sorts of nasty things to squeeze the goose that lays the golden
Hi Dave,
Just to be clear... I said to Gary: We both like what we like and
still keep liking Benzes, old and new. I've owned both!Most of
all, I enjoy having many Benz owners as friends... The cars are what
has engendered those friendships..
I didn't say that we all like old
If Chuck somehow loses the MBCA DAL election, I will demand however many
recounts it takes to declare him a winner.
On 10/10/06, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Dave,
Just to be clear... I said to Gary: We both like what we like and
still keep liking Benzes, old and new.
Vegans have a phrase for carnivores: Too early dead meat.
On 10/6/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So bite me!
Brian
On 10/6/06, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
About twenty posts on food, no reply to the request for a link to buy
German Auto paint. I see nothing has
No!.. Next issue is Jan/Feb. March/April 2007 issue will be
first with the new editor.
Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Oct 10, 2006, at 1:08 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
The current Star Magazine says that a new publisher is taking over
starting
with the next issue.
I wonder at all these attacks on The Star. I think it has been an amazing,
beautiful publication, even though only about 25 - 35 % of the content is of
personal interest...
On 10/10/06, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No!.. Next issue is Jan/Feb. March/April 2007 issue will
yes, that is something i can agree with!
On 10/10/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If Chuck somehow loses the MBCA DAL election, I will demand however many
recounts it takes to declare him a winner.
On 10/10/06, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Dave,
Just to
Thanks, Andrew
Appreciate your support
Take care,
Chuck
On Oct 10, 2006, at 1:16 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
If Chuck somehow loses the MBCA DAL election, I will demand
however many
recounts it takes to declare him a winner.
On 10/10/06, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL
I'm with Jim. I have the normal manual antenna and keep thinking I should swap
it to a power antenna just to make
it less of a target for vandals. I would have to find some sort of aftermarket
unit that would work as I don't
intend to spend a fortune on it.
Randy
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