Re: [MBZ] Roadside Perils

2008-07-31 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:57:42 -0700, Jim wrote: > If it was a diesel, or a 6.9, I might have been all over it. > > -- Jim And your wife would have been all over you! *grin* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see officia

Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:25:41 -0400, Gary wrote: > ok, well, let me give you an example at a rate of 1/2 a > percent a month. ** snip ** > i did this all fast. someone please check the math and logic > for me. but i set the value of the finance at $150 per $1000 > financed as a q

Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Gary Hurst
well, in this problem he is not paying interest and wants to determine a cash value of this interest free transaction. in other words, at what point does it pay for him to buy for cash as opposed to buying via interest free financing. a "rule of thumb" is asked for. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:23

Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: > 6 yr is ridiculous, you'll be so far underwater you won't be able to get > out. He kept the last one for 21 years, maybe he doesn't want out. Besides, if his original intention was to pay cash, he'll have the $$ on hand to pay it off any time he wants. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Mitch Haley
Fmiser wrote: > Higher price plus interest charges equals more cost, not less. > So what am I missing? ...that the only reason he's considering financing is that he was offered 72 months at 0% in a 10% inflation environment. The only reason he doesn't jump at the free financing is that he figur

[MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it

2008-07-31 Thread harry watkins
No A/C, cruise or radio, the dash is cracked and it needs shocks, I could go on but I'm already ashamed of the condition I've let it get in. I took the 86 SDL on a 500 mile round trip yesterday, pulling an empty trailer there and a light load back.. I'm past three score and ten so I've owned a

Re: [MBZ] something for your football fans / car guys

2008-07-31 Thread Wonko the Sane
He and his *wife* plan to take it to VT football games. On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Rich Thomas < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I bet tailgating ain't all he's gonna be doing in that thing, something > else to do with tail. > > --R > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get upda

Re: [MBZ] something for your football fans / car guys

2008-07-31 Thread Wonko the Sane
I imagine he had a friend paint it for him. That paint job would have been difficult to pull off in his condo parking lot. On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sweet. Did he learn his painting/bodywork skills from you? > He will be the envy of student tail

Re: [MBZ] something for your football fans / car guys

2008-07-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
Did he get the VT bureaucracy to approve his using their trademark? On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I imagine he had a friend paint it for him. That paint job would have been > difficult to pull off in his condo parking lot. > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at

Re: [MBZ] Parts cars, FREE for the hauling

2008-07-31 Thread Loren Faeth
This isn't Canada. I don't think that is a worry At 12:07 AM 7/31/2008, you wrote: >A friend of mine got threatened with a long gun in such a situation, >followed by threats from the local law enforcement to charge him with >trespass and attempted theft. For attempting to pick up a vehicle he had

Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Gary Hurst
they don't actually read the thread, mitch. they just pick up on some words in the middle of one post and then rant. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:17 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rich Thomas wrote: > > 6 yr is ridiculous, you'll be so far underwater you won't be able to get > > out.

Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread John Robbins
Redghost wrote: > WHY IN GOD'S GOOD NAME are you even considering a 72 month finance? 0% interest... Their might be a higher purchase price, but you might also make more money investing the money now. Hence the question. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com Fo

Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Donald Snook
Gary Hurst: "well, in this problem he is not paying interest and wants to determine a cash value of this interest free transaction. in other words, at what point does it pay for him to buy for cash as opposed to buying via interest free financing. a "rule of thumb" is asked for." I think you

Re: [MBZ] something for your football fans / car guys

2008-07-31 Thread Rich Thomas
I guess he won't be having as much *fun* then! --R Wonko the Sane wrote: > He and his *wife* plan to take it to VT football games. > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Rich Thomas < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I bet tailgating ain't all he's gonna be doing in that thing, something >> e

[MBZ] Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread pm7088
What amazes my immature business mind is the 0% financing extended by Home Depot, several appliance and TV resellers. This after I have negotiated what I believe is the last dollar out of the deal. Why would I not take it? I spent about $10k last year at Home Depot, got itchy and paid it off wit

Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Rich Thomas
Reading the thread doesn't matter -- if you are getting into a 6 yr loan on a car, that is crazy no matter what the price, unless you expect The Chosen One and the Congress will create a bail-out for you like they did for all the stupid people who got into their stupid sucker-rate mortgages, an

Re: [MBZ] something for your football fans / car guys

2008-07-31 Thread Wonko the Sane
He probably bought the decal from them. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:14 AM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Did he get the VT bureaucracy to approve his using their trademark? > > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will

Re: [MBZ] something for your football fans / car guys

2008-07-31 Thread Curt Raymond
Wow, I'm not one for sports but I can surely appreciate the labor he's put into that... Makes me feel better about the work going into my 240D... -Curt Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:59:59 -0500 From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] something for your football fans / car guys To:

[MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread Donald Snook
"There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actuall

Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it

2008-07-31 Thread Loren Faeth
The 300SDL is the ultimate road car. Period. End of sentence. Bar none. End of Discussion. At 07:45 AM 7/31/2008, you wrote: >No A/C, cruise or radio, the dash is cracked and it needs shocks, I could go >on but I'm already ashamed of the condition I've let it get in. > >I took the 86 SDL on a 50

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread Loren Faeth
I'd like to see a transcript of his 7 1/2 minutes of "uhs" and "ummms" from his 20 minute speech in europe. 1/3 stammering. That is real presidential material! At 09:51 AM 7/31/2008, you wrote: >"There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. >Making sure your tires are pro

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread Donald Snook
Here's the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzZNP4tTfV0&eurl=http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/07/hot-air-obama-says-blowing-up-your.html Donald H. Snook -Original Message- From: Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: OT: Obama

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread John Robbins
Loren Faeth wrote: > I'd like to see a transcript of his 7 1/2 minutes of "uhs" and > "ummms" from his 20 minute speech in europe. 1/3 stammering. That > is real presidential material! Nukular, etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official

Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it

2008-07-31 Thread dave walton
The W140 is superior. However I have 2 300SDL's. They have their place. -Dave Walton On 7/31/08, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The 300SDL is the ultimate road car. > > Period. > End of sentence. > Bar none. > End of Discussion. > > > > At 07:45 AM 7/31/2008, you wrote: > >No A/C,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making > sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all > the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybo

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
What's the downside of OVERinflating tires to improve fuel economy? On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread John Robbins
Alex Chamberlain wrote: > I am no Obama fan but I wouldn't be surprised if that were true 20 > years ago---that is, if we didn't have computerized engine management > and cars still needed tune-ups. Your typical '70s or '80s carbureted, > minimally electronic engine could easily lose 25% of its mp

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread John Robbins
andrew strasfogel wrote: > What's the downside of OVERinflating tires to improve fuel economy? I'm not sure of others, but hydroplaning resistance is one of them. At least according to the autocross school I went to... They said 40psi for the track, but don't run that on the street. John ___

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread Rich Thomas
Hard ride, poorer handling (i.e., safety), I don't know about wear. What exactly do you tune up on a newer car? New plugs every 100k miles? An air filter once a year? Maybe some injector cleaner now and then if you use cheap gas? The sad thing is that there are people out there who listen to

Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Redghost
When we have gone to dealers for cars, I pay cash in essence. In reality there are incentives for the dealer to sell the car on credit which allows them to make some scratch on the front end kick back, which leads to a lower sales price. Example- I have $10k cash for car I want in pocket.

Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it

2008-07-31 Thread Loren Faeth
I don't believe so in terms of fit and finish, appearance, cost of operation, reliability, usefulness of the trunk, interior room, etc. Everything I have heard is that 140s are expensive to keep on the road. At 10:20 AM 7/31/2008, you wrote: >The W140 is superior. However I have 2 300SDL's. The

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread Loren Faeth
Why wouldn't he use 40 yr old data? There is nothing new in what he stammers and he is trying to portray himself as jfk 48 years ago. jfk, he ain't At 10:27 AM 7/31/2008, you wrote: >On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "There are things you can do individ

Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Redghost
Well as long as you are not actually going to be sending payment over that term and just looking for some incentive plan program that will render a lower purchase price, which you will then immediately pay. Sounds good. Values of cars are so out of whack, that financing one for that long

Re: [MBZ] Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Redghost
That knocked the cobwebs out of my brain. I did the 0% finance thing once. On a TV. Seemed like a truly good deal, low price, no interest, time to pay it off. What the mouse print lays out though is a bit different than the banner over the door says. IF YOU PAY ON TIME, you will not be c

Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Redghost
Very true. All the people who purchased the R350 from a dealer two years ago are now sitting on a car that not only looks like a Pacifica, but costs the same as one. From dealer floor price of $48k to $24k in two short years. clay On 31 Jul 2008, at 06:46, Rich Thomas wrote: > Reading t

Re: [MBZ] Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread John Robbins
Redghost wrote: > IF YOU PAY ON TIME, you will not be charged interest. Miss a payment > and you will be smacked with 19% interest on the whole purchase, > retroactive to the purchase date and all payments made will be > recalculated for interest owed. You need to make the payments each >

Re: [MBZ] Tire over/under inflation..

2008-07-31 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Andrew, If you overinflate your tires, the center of the tread will wear more than the outer edges and you reduce the area of the "contact patch" of your tires with the road surface. Less "patch" = less control. Underinflation causes the outer edges to wear at a higher rate. It can caus

Re: [MBZ] Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:02 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd rather put it on my > normal CC, get some cashback, and pay it off with the next statement. That's usually my MO as well, although some car dealers will try to pass the credit card company fee on to you, neatly negating

Re: [MBZ] Tire over/under inflation..

2008-07-31 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When autocrossing, the higher psi only > pertains to the front tires, not the rears. Really? Never heard that one before. Sounds like a recipe for godawful understeer to me (smaller contact patch = less grip in th

Re: [MBZ] Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What amazes my immature business mind is the 0% financing extended by Home > Depot, several appliance and TV resellers. This after I have negotiated what > I believe is the last dollar out of the deal. > Why would I not take it? Cars are different because a 0% car loa

Re: [MBZ] Parts cars, FREE for the hauling

2008-07-31 Thread R A Bennell
I think I recall the post. Loren is essentially being forced out of some property that has been in the family for generations by family who want to sell. I believe the cars are stored on the property and as such must be moved but there is a bit of unhappiness between them at the moment so you may

Re: [MBZ] Tire over/under inflation..

2008-07-31 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Well, when braking the tire flattens and full contact is attained. And tire roll is minimized. And these autocross runs last about 50-60 secs. and speeds rarely reach 50 mph. Most of the time one is trying to minimize distance by close cornering at the cones. A saying in autocross circl

Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it

2008-07-31 Thread R A Bennell
But isn't this the beginning of the rodbender engine? Will an 85 SD be almost as good and still have the earlier engine? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Sub

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread Mitch Haley
Loren Faeth wrote: > Why wouldn't he use 40 yr old data? There is nothing new in what he > stammers and he is trying to portray himself as jfk 48 years ago. > jfk, he ain't Right. JFK was born the son of a mobster. BHOJr was born the son of a bureaucrat, and had to move to Chicago to join the

Re: [MBZ] Tire over/under inflation..

2008-07-31 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, when braking the tire flattens and full contact is attained. > And tire roll is minimized. And these autocross runs last about > 50-60 secs. and speeds rarely reach 50 mph. Most of the time one is > trying to m

Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it

2008-07-31 Thread Luther
The rod bender started after the '87 model year. Luther R A Bennell wrote: > But isn't this the beginning of the rodbender engine? Will an 85 SD be almost > as good and still have the earlier > engine? > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it

2008-07-31 Thread dave walton
You want the ultimate road car or you want to save money? If you throw the right restrictions into the mix you could make the Yugo look good. -Dave Walton On 7/31/08, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't believe so in terms of fit and finish, appearance, cost of > operation, reliabi

Re: [MBZ] Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread R A Bennell
I'm guessing here but I suspect most folks who do the deal with Home Depot don't pay on time and end up paying the interest. They make more money on that than they lose on the few who do pay it out just prior to the cutoff date. We use their free financing often. My wife is very good at keeping

Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:24:42 -0400, Mitch wrote: > Fmiser wrote: > > Higher price plus interest charges equals more cost, not > > less. So what am I missing? > > ...that the only reason he's considering financing is that he > was offered 72 months at 0% in a 10% inflation environme

Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeahbut once you've paid off the note the vehicle will ALWAYS be worth more than you owe ;) I plan to buy my next pickup on credit. It'll probably be a 48 month note although I have yet to decide on new vs used, it'll depend on the prices of each and the financing. If its real close I'd probabl

Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Gary Hurst
it's a means of valuing the loan. if you didn't get free financing as a promo, how much would you have to pay for it? that seems to be its value. i suppose another way to value it would be to ask how much you could "sell" that money for, that is, investing it risk free. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 a

Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it

2008-07-31 Thread Wilton Strickland
My 91 350SDL is a mighty fine car, too; 'not very junky, though. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Loren Faeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it > The 300SDL is the ultimate ro

Re: [MBZ] Tire over/under inflation..

2008-07-31 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Alex, One of our members set up this website http-//www.kenrockwell.com/ mercedes/starfest-2006/index.htm.webloc Enjoy! It is from StarFest 2006 in Las Vegas. Will give you some idea that all kinds of Mercedes-Benz automobiles are driven like they are stolen. That advice comes from o

[MBZ] CHEAP! 126 diesel in Arkansas

2008-07-31 Thread Donald Snook
http://tiny.cc/EMyps Tons of miles, needs some work, but its cheap. Not mine, no affiliation. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscrib

Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it

2008-07-31 Thread Donald Snook
Randy wrote: "But isn't this the beginning of the rodbender engine? Will an 85 SD be almost as good and still have the earlier engine?" The 6 cylinder engine in the 300SDL was the basis for the rodbender. BUT, the 3.0 version was awesome. The problem was Mercedes bored them out to 3.5 when the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread Rolf
Wear will be heavily on the middle. PSI depends more on the tire than saying 40psi is to high for on the road. I run mine at 45psi because they are mushrooms. Next time I will get a smaller sidewall. Hydroplaning, I would think there would be less chance of it as the contact patch would be smaller

[MBZ] 80 300SD

2008-07-31 Thread Donald Snook
An 80 300SD is a 116, correct? 81 was the first year for the 126 300SD? Our summer associate (a law student who works for us for the summer hoping to get a job offer at the end) told me about his Sister's car that she is trying to sell. He knows it is a 300SD, but thinks it is a 1980 instea

Re: [MBZ] Tire over/under inflation..

2008-07-31 Thread Rolf
Any idea what the wear rating is on those BFG R1 tires? We are looking for 300+ racing compound for next years lemons. The nice BFG we had on them did quite well but you can always do better with rubber. -Rolf Chuck Landenberger wrote: > Andrew, > > If you overinflate your tires, the center of th

Re: [MBZ] CHEAP! 126 diesel in Arkansas

2008-07-31 Thread R A Bennell
Needs a bit more than paint on the back right corner. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:01 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] CHEAP! 126 diesel in Arkansas http://tiny.cc/EMyps

Re: [MBZ] Tire over/under inflation..

2008-07-31 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Rolf, BFG stopped making the R1 a few years ago. It's now the G-Force R-1. Back then they were, IIRC, only tires made in a 14 inch race tire That was what was stock on the W116 300SD.. At one time I had 8 bundt cake 14" rims with various street and race tires. More info is here

Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD

2008-07-31 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Donald, Yup! Chuck Phoenix On Jul 31, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Donald Snook wrote: > An 80 300SD is a 116, correct? > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubsc

Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD

2008-07-31 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An 80 300SD is a 116, correct? 81 was the first year for the 126 300SD? > Our summer associate (a law student who works for us for the summer hoping to > get a job offer at the end) told me about his Sister's car that

Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD

2008-07-31 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Alex, Not necessarily true. I replaced the servo on my 300SD with an aluminum one ($250, I think) and it worked great for years. Also requires chasing the vacuum lines, but it's not a terminal life ender! Need to vac the system and see if there are leaks Bigger killer is rust at

Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD

2008-07-31 Thread John Robbins
Alex Chamberlain wrote: > If the climate control is broken, the car is worthless except for > parts no matter how nice it is and how many receipts it has. There is a new digital version that ditches the servo and amplifier horror of the original system. Its pricey ($700), but if the car is mint

[MBZ] OT - Think we will see more of this

2008-07-31 Thread Redghost
http://www.murphyauctions.net/porteverett08sep.html Wonder how soon before you can pick up a boat for Kaleb costs? -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebe

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
Thanks - I worry about hydroplaning around here (D.C.), especially just after it rains for the first time in a week or more. The moisture combines with a residue of gasoline and oil built up on the road surface to create a very slippery condition... On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Rolf <[EMAIL P

Re: [MBZ] CHEAP! 126 diesel in Arkansas

2008-07-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
My "new" wagon has 317 K miles on the odo but the drive train is less than 200K. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:01 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Needs a bit more than paint on the back right corner. > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROT

[MBZ] PLEASE! Keep the Subject Topical!!!!

2008-07-31 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Andrew, Just a subtle suggestion... Change the Subject Line PLEASE!!! And eliminate all the previous posts! PLEASE!!! Keep the text on topic to the Subject!!! PLEASE!!! It ain't about Obama anymore Chuck ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] CHEAP! 126 diesel in Arkansas

2008-07-31 Thread Wilton Strickland
Wow! A mid-miles car with a low-miles drive train, then! Wilton - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CHEAP! 126 diesel in Arkansas > My "new" wagon has 317 K miles on

[MBZ] Great article on BS Committee Judging @ LeMons

2008-07-31 Thread Rolf
http://www.motivemag.com/pub/feature/culture/Motive_Culture_When_Life_Gives_You_Lemons_Confessions_of_a_Crooked_Lemons_Judge.shtml There is a few good laughs in there. Compared to how much cheating were were up against our 25th place looks all that much better. ___

Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it

2008-07-31 Thread R A Bennell
OK, so you have slightly lost me here. Is there also a 350SDL? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:10 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it Rand

[MBZ] Cathey needs this

2008-07-31 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Wrecked 190D 2.5 in Washington. Ingredients for another Franken-201? http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/pts/776427445.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [MBZ] Dicker with a Junkyard?

2008-07-31 Thread LarryT
Absolutely - you can dicker anything anywhere - you can go to the drugstore and try to get a better price on toothpaste altho you might be wating time. ;-) I got a AT for my 78 240D a couple years ago - $300 delivered to my tranny guy. If they have any 123 stuff it has probably been sitting fo

Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it

2008-07-31 Thread Wilton Strickland
Yes, my 126 is a 91 350SDL with 191 kmi. Wilton - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it > OK, so you have slightly lost me here. Is there also a

Re: [MBZ] Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread LarryT
Local furniture stores are huge n the "Zero Interest for 2 years" r some such nonsense.They are *counting* on people not paying it off during that time - or missing a payment. It usually works out so the customer (usually poor & ignorant of the type Redghost was ranting about - no money bu

Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Kris Gilmore
At 01:15 PM 7/31/2008, Hurst wrote: >it's a means of valuing the loan. if you didn't get free financing as a >promo, how much would you have to pay for it? that seems to be its value. > >i suppose another way to value it would be to ask how much you could "sell" >that money for, that is, investin

Re: [MBZ] OT - Think we will see more of this

2008-07-31 Thread Rich Thomas
You'd want to get a blow-boat, price of fuel will kill you on those stinkpots, unless you get one for next to nothing. --R Redghost wrote: > http://www.murphyauctions.net/porteverett08sep.html > > Wonder how soon before you can pick up a boat for Kaleb costs? > > > > > -- > Clay > Seattle Biobur

Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it

2008-07-31 Thread Loren Faeth
NO The 300SDL, and the 300d 124 are great engines! No valve adjustment, and if you drive 40-60k per year, that is a BIG deal! The Rodbenders are the 350SDL and 350SD only. Less power, even if they run right. At 11:39 AM 7/31/2008, you wrote: >But isn't this the beginning of the rodbender en

Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it

2008-07-31 Thread Loren Faeth
If you think an SDL is inferior, then don't buy one. Leaves more for those who appreciate one. At 11:47 AM 7/31/2008, you wrote: >You want the ultimate road car or you want to save money? If you throw >the right restrictions into the mix you could make the Yugo look good. > >-Dave Walton > > >On

Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it

2008-07-31 Thread Loren Faeth
350 SDLs that have documented new factory engines are ok. They are reliable also. But any 350 Diesel without a factory replacement short block or more is suspect. At 04:08 PM 7/31/2008, you wrote: >OK, so you have slightly lost me here. Is there also a 350SDL? > >Randy > >-Original Message

Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Mitch Haley
Kris Gilmore wrote: > they assume insurance cost of > $2400 a year (mainly for collision to protect the debt holder) while > in fact I have been paying $290 (liability only) on a debt free machine. Good point. 72 months interest free can be expensive if it makes you buy six years of comprehens

Re: [MBZ] OT - Think we will see more of this

2008-07-31 Thread Loren Faeth
the 32 Chriscraft would have twin screw setup. Repower with twin OM 617 turbodiesels and it won't stink any more! The 25' might not plane with a single OM617.Both should go for next to nothing. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts s

Re: [MBZ] Dicker with a Junkyard?

2008-07-31 Thread Curt Raymond
Well we'll see. I'm going to go there Saturday and wave $70 around. I know I offered $80 before but the guy never got back to me... -Curt --- On Thu, 7/31/08, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dicker with a Junkyard? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mer

Re: [MBZ] OT - Think we will see more of this

2008-07-31 Thread Rich Thomas
I had a boss once who had a buddy who worked for the T in Boston (that is the public transportation agency) as a maintenance engineer or something like that. He had a fishing boat of that sort or similar, that got repowered with a pair of brand new GMC diesels, just like the ones the buses use

Re: [MBZ] Dicker with a Junkyard?

2008-07-31 Thread Rich Thomas
Look, that thing is 25 or 30 years old, probably has been sitting in his yard for some lengthy period, I doubt there are that many scroungers who would want it, and for scrap it is worth maybe $5? There's your starting point. You might want to scavenge a few other bits from some other cars so

Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing

2008-07-31 Thread Allan Streib
Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > STOP with the financing already. Just pay cash. No cash, you do > not need the darn car or you should get one you can really afford. For a car I agree -- though if you plan to KEEP the car for 5 years, financing it for 3 or 4 at a good rate is not the wors

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Ohh man, he is starting to sound like the current white house resident, that's scary stuff. Now if he said the way to save fuel is to get off your fat behind and walk, that would make more sense but the voters wouldn't like that, just like they wouldn't like being told that their supersized urba

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread Allan Streib
Well so what? So what if it's true, and we could save that amount of oil by inflating our tires. Why does that in any way cancel the benefit of drilling for our own oil? In fact we're better off if we do both. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Hendrik > with an MB monster truck in the drive way Unimog? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] Cathey needs this

2008-07-31 Thread Jim Cathey
> Wrecked 190D 2.5 in Washington. Ingredients for another Franken-201? > http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/pts/776427445.html Ingredients for a franken-orchidectomy! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buym

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread OK Don
What is we just stopped EXPORTING our own oil? Crazystuff our there, but the oil companies are in business to make money, not to serve the best interests of the USA. >Why does that in any way cancel the > benefit of drilling for our own oil? In fact we're better off if we > do both. > -- OK Do

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread Hendrik & Fay
U1300L Hendrik Mitch Haley wrote: > Hendrik & Fay wrote: > > >> Hendrik >> with an MB monster truck in the drive way >> > > Unimog? > > Mitch. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For use

Re: [MBZ] Parts cars, FREE for the hauling

2008-07-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
send price sometime Loren Faeth wrote: > You can buy your SDL and drive it back too! I have to sell stuff off > besides giving away junkers > > At 06:54 PM 7/30/2008, you wrote: >> crap, too bad i was not coming up there anyway. Maybe I will haul one >> off if I get to drive back a SDL or some

Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it

2008-07-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No R A Bennell wrote: > But isn't this the beginning of the rodbender engine? Will an 85 SD be almost > as good and still have the earlier > engine? > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 20

Re: [MBZ] Dicker with a Junkyard?

2008-07-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Chances are the price will be higher than originally quoted. Curt Raymond wrote: > Well we'll see. I'm going to go there Saturday and wave $70 around. I know I > offered $80 before but the guy never got back to me... > > -Curt -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread Allan Streib
"OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What is we just stopped EXPORTING our own oil? Crazystuff our there, > but the oil companies are in business to make money, not to serve the > best interests of the USA. The US is a net importer of petroleum. We both export and import refined product where

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread Tom Hargrave
I agree 100%. Our oil companies making money is serving the best interest of our country! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:54 PM To: Mercedes D

Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread Wonko the Sane
It is Supply and Demand 101. They control the supply and demand more and more money of us. What could be more American than that? On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree 100%. Our oil companies making money is serving the best interest > of > our countr

[MBZ] OT: Oil companies, WAS:Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday

2008-07-31 Thread Loren Faeth
BZT WRONG! People generally hostile to civilization control a large supply of oil. Arabs, nigerians, that Wonko CHavez, Mexico and Russia control most oil supplies. American oil companies, (Who is left? Conoco Phillips?) control a relatively small amount of oil. BP-Amoco: The BP is

[MBZ] PHX CL '73 450SLC

2008-07-31 Thread Robert Rentfro
These are some odd pictures. Check out the engine temp in the one pic. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/car/777826314.html If they were any closer, I'd expect a shot of the inside of a cylinder. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see of

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