Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Why not fill the holes with that readily available vinyl repair stuff? You mix and match the color. Being just holes vs cracks it should probably stand up fairly well. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 12:46 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I have two W123 300TDs with

Re: [MBZ] WAS 110 Heresey Was: R107 heresey now Heresy

2012-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff
Kind of like what we called Kentucky chrome as a kid Dan former Rust Belt inhabitant Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 1:04 AM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: We refer to that shade of metallic bronze, as rust, up here in Canada. ;-) hee hee Ed 300E On 29 January 2012

Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

2012-01-29 Thread Gerry Archer
A kit I read about long ago had some kind of colored compound (probably like shoe goo) that went in the crack after some sort of reinforcement material was glued under the damaged area. If the edges can be approximated exactly, I imagine ordinary shoe-goo would work well. Jim may have used it to

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread Jim Cathey
Anyway, how good are the various blue dyes (e.g., Leatherique) in matching the OEM blue color on a touchup basis? Or will I need to fill the cracks and holes and respray each dash in its entirety? Leatherique 'dye' (a latex paint) looks perfect. The problem is the cracks. (Not sure about

Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

2012-01-29 Thread Jim Cathey
Would shoe goo be a good option to repair a tear? Not really. To do it right I'd take a heavy piece of canvas or leather and put it behind the tear, and glue it in place with fabric glue. (A rubber-based glue.) Then fill the crack with Leatherique's crack filler and dye (paint) the seat.

Re: [MBZ] Jeep Cherokee factory diesel

2012-01-29 Thread Jim Cathey
Vancouver is the armpit of Washington state, just over the river from PDX. You, sir, have obviously never been to Aberdeen! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] S65 is not for sale by me

2012-01-29 Thread Tim C
We are casually shopping for a passenger van, so sometime in the next few weeks we will probably be out that way - I'm sure the Chevy sales guy could roust up an MB tag and/or surround. I will warn you,the tags are probably just poster paper. Or would you rather not have it if we can get it

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond
They haven't been out long here so long term its hard to say. Supposed to be very fun cars to drive and quite easy on fuel. If I had that kind of money burning a hole in my pocket I'd probably pick one up. -Curt Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:38:23 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond
1920x1200 is a 16x10 monitor. From what I saw almost all 24 monitors are 1920x1080 or 1920x1200, I didn't want a larger monitor as I don't have the desk space for it, the 24 clears the printer and scanner by ~1/2. I can't see my needing any more real estate, I'm only using the left 2/3 of the

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for driving

2012-01-29 Thread Jim Cathey
Yesterday I started taking apart the replacement door, and the farther along I got the less happy I got. It was in worse shape than I'd thought, the whole bottom channel for the weatherstripping was rusted away, and there was a lot of rust in the door bottom too. Looks like it started under the

Re: [MBZ] WAS 110 Heresey Was: R107 heresey now Heresy

2012-01-29 Thread E M
LOL, I'll have to remember that one! ;-) Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 08:28, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Kind of like what we called Kentucky chrome as a kid Dan former Rust Belt inhabitant Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 1:04 AM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: We

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread Hans Neureiter
I bought a 'dash overlay' which worked pretty well. Don't remeber where I got it though. On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:46 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I have two W123 300TDs with dash issues. One has some cracks on the top of the dash, and the other has four small holes

Re: [MBZ] Look at these

2012-01-29 Thread WILTON
I can't understand the need to cut a hole in a perfectly good steel top to install a movable, potentially leaky and expensive panel, oftentimes of some other material. Wilton - Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent:

Re: [MBZ] Look at these

2012-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff
Reminds me of the California coupes they made with the 107s (?) that had a removable hard top but no convertible top. What's the point? Dan On Jan 29, 2012, at 10:20 AM, WILTON wrote: I can't understand the need to cut a hole in a perfectly good steel top to install a movable,

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for driving

2012-01-29 Thread WILTON
ATTABOY! Keep eyes out for a better door; meanwhile you can keep picking at the original one and may make it good enough that you don't need another one. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent:

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread WILTON
#1 grandson's '85 Bimmer has a dash overlay - looks good. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash I

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread andrew strasfogel
Not a fan of dash overlays, but thanks for the suggestion anyway, On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: I bought a 'dash overlay' which worked pretty well. Don't remeber where I got it though. On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:46 PM, andrew strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread Rusty Cullens
Hmmm, who might sell those Coverlay dash caps? Hmmm. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com To:

Re: [MBZ] Look at these

2012-01-29 Thread E M
I agree, even though most of my cars have them. Given the option, I would order without. I figure, if the windows roll down, that's good enough. If more air than that is needed, a motorcycle might be a better mode of transport. ;-) hee hee Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 10:20, WILTON

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for driving

2012-01-29 Thread G Mann
A tip on Kentucky Windage style door work. [just good enough to work style]. As you work the inside with your wooden hammer driven ram have your helper back up the blows with a piece of 4x4 wood. [two 2x4 nailed together will work, you just want some mass to strike against and push the door skin

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Jabba? Autohausaz? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, who might sell those Coverlay dash caps? Hmmm. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for driving

2012-01-29 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 29, 2012, at 10:46 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Grant... [In Arizona where rust free cars are thrown away every day] Yeah, I know. Almost brings me to tears thinking about it. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Look at these

2012-01-29 Thread WILTON
Both of mine have'em, of course, but I rather they didn't; I've never opened either one of 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Look at these I

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for driving

2012-01-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: At this point the door was fully operational, but still could use some more cosmetic shaping of the metal, and the trim pieces repaired and replaced. This is the CW car, right? Let the remaining damage be a reminder to the driver as they enter the car? You deserve an

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for driving

2012-01-29 Thread WILTON
BTW, in Nov '79, I'd had the new '80 240D 'bout 2 weeks. I was sawing stiles for the kitchen cabinets in house that I had built. New 240D was sitting in garage just outside the open double doors of the adjoining workshop. I let the saw throw a 2-inch wide piece of wood into left rear

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for driving

2012-01-29 Thread Jim Cathey
This is the CW car, right? Yes, the Chicken Wagon. Formerly faded and with one weird surface rust patch (egg damage?), but almost completely straight and rust-free. And 310kmi and purring like a kitten. Up 'til now all it really needed was paint, and for me to install that good dashboard I

Re: [MBZ] Look at these

2012-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff
I always likes the manual sunroof I had in my 79 300TD. Simple and easy to use, no messing with motors and grease Dan On Jan 29, 2012, at 12:17 PM, WILTON wrote: Both of mine have'em, of course, but I rather they didn't; I've never opened either one of 'em. Wilton - Original

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Bad day for driving

2012-01-29 Thread Jim Cathey
As you work the inside with your wooden hammer driven ram have your helper back up the blows with a piece of 4x4 wood. I will keep that in mind, we should have another session today. I think, however, in keeping with the spirit of the thing I'll use another piece of firewood, maybe run it

Re: [MBZ] Look at these

2012-01-29 Thread Jim Cathey
What's the point [of a California coupe]? If it's built without the soft top altogether there's more room in the back seat area. Think SLC back seat instead of SL back seat, though not with as much leg room I'm sure. If you rarely _need_ a top at all that might be sort of attractive. But

Re: [MBZ] 300SD in St Louis

2012-01-29 Thread Mike Piles
It needs a battery, The steering is sloppy, 1985 ~287000 miles I think the front tranny seal may bee leaking. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:44 AM To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for driving

2012-01-29 Thread Jim Cathey
struck the inside of it twice with hammer. Ding disappeared! So nice of the saw to be kind and ding the car where you _could_ get a hammer behind it! I could do a _much_ better job on the CW if I could freely get a hammer behind it all. But it's a door, so you can't. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-29 Thread Brian Toscano
The main reason for wanting to run 2560x1440 or 2560x1660 is that you can have two full screen windows up at the same time. On my 17 laptop screen which runs 1920x1200, I end up minimizing or sending one halfway off the scene a lot of the time when I'm working on two documents at the same time.

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for driving

2012-01-29 Thread WILTON
In '56, I pried and hammered out a bent left rear fender on my '51 Chevy; used tire tool as pry bar. 'Sanded off resulting pimples on outside; primed/painted for perfect with original metallic green. 'Sprayed paint with vac cleaner, BTW, the same one I now use to power my $2 oil

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 29, 2012 7:43 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Not a fan of dash overlays, but thanks for the suggestion anyway, Why not? A good one (Coverlay) properly applied is virtually undetectable. I didn't know my '87 had one until I pulled the instrument panel to replace the

Re: [MBZ] Jeep Cherokee factory diesel

2012-01-29 Thread Greg Fiorentino
As a native New Yorker and a naturalized Vancouverite I sincerely resent that!!! Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject:

Re: [MBZ] Jeep Cherokee factory diesel

2012-01-29 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Clay, I would have to be on Banned to give you an appropriate reply to your post! Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] Look at these

2012-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff
Interesting. I have seen a number of them around here for some reason, and when I have, I never really paid that much attention, as I immediately lost interest. I had a friend who wanted to buy one that asked me to do a PPI on it for him. That's when I first discovered what they were and the

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread Dwight Giles
Yes I have a friend who put a Coverlay on his 85 300D blue dash- -it was undetectable. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Jan 29, 2012 7:43 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Not a fan of dash overlays, but thanks for the

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Bad day for driving

2012-01-29 Thread G Mann
Should work well with a piece of hardwood. Sheet metal actually flows when you work it right. Play with it a bit and you will be surprised at how smooth you can get it. Add a few layers of masking tape to the backing block and you can often preserve the original paint pretty well. Want a good

Re: [MBZ] Look at these

2012-01-29 Thread E M
I remember there was a thread awhile back about a California coupe, but I can't remember just what it was? Refresh my memory please ? Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 13:15, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: What's the point [of a California coupe]? If it's built without the soft top

Re: [MBZ] Look at these

2012-01-29 Thread E M
I'd prefer to have the couple of extra inches of headroom. All my cars also have cruise control. I've never once used it, not sure I'd even know how to. I'm sure it's useful to some, but I don't see the point. I've driven hours and hundreds of miles at a time, without ever feeling I need it.

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Allan Streib
Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)? Head gasket was a trouble spot on those. Allan Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: They haven't been out long here so long term its hard to say. Supposed to be very fun

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-29 Thread Allan Streib
Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com writes: The main reason for wanting to run 2560x1440 or 2560x1660 is that you can have two full screen windows up at the same time. Two separate, smaller monitors used to the the cheaper way to do this, as prices went up exponentially with size. Not sure

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I think there are two good solutions: 1) Wait (a long time) until a good crash free one appears on eBay and exchange it. It happens, believe me. 2) Buy a black one and spray it blue. Exchanging the dash is a lot of work, but not unreasonable or as bad as you might think... you can do it in a

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I also should add that if you decide to use a dash cover, be careful with how you secure it. I'd much rather buy a car with a few cracks in the blue dash than a dash cover thats glued in place. In other words, make sure its removable with out damage to the original dash. With some, there are

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Replace all the vacuum pods while you have the dash out Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I think there are two good solutions: 1) Wait (a long time) until a good crash free one appears on eBay and exchange it. It happens, believe

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You have to be pretty blind not to be able to tell the difference Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I also should add that if you decide to use a dash cover, be careful with how you secure it. I'd much rather buy a car with a few

Re: [MBZ] Jeep Cherokee factory diesel

2012-01-29 Thread clay monroe
I have made a number of visits to the Aberdeen/Hoquiam area. Having lived in Vancouver, I would have to give the coast the benefit of the doubt as to quality of life. Might be Aberdeen is the pustule upon the buttock of the state, but Vancouver claims the armpit. I am certain one can still

Re: [MBZ] 300SD in St Louis

2012-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
How much? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Mike Piles mikepi...@charter.net wrote: It needs a battery, The steering is sloppy, 1985 ~287000 miles I think the front tranny seal may bee leaking. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-29 Thread clay monroe
A fine 21/22 inch screen will suffice for most of your computing needs. I decided to invest in multiple monitors to increase my screen real estate. Allows for multi-tasking such that each screen hosts its own mess, It has also been a great way to get the lightbox for S.A.D. lumens. Have to

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-29 Thread Brian Toscano
Apple sells their 27 display for $900 or $1000 that also serves more or less as a docking station. One cable bundle from the monitor for laptop charging thunderbolt which will carries video along with everything else. A few years ago their 30 was considerably more expensive. Even if you have a

Re: [MBZ] Look at these

2012-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff
As described below, it's a 107 chassis with a hardtop and tonneau cover for the space under the hard top when removed. There is no soft top, nor is there a frame for it. It is essentially a coupe with a removable top, NOT a convertible. I don't think many were made, and it's unlikely that you

Re: [MBZ] Jeep Cherokee factory diesel

2012-01-29 Thread clay monroe
What, pray tell, is so special about that rat hole of a town? SWMBA comes from there, my oldest was born there, I lived there for a time, and so far, I have found nothing of lasting value in the place. Except for SWMBA's grandmother. She is a jewel, but ended up in Vancouver, after moving

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)? 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL. Decades apart, in other words. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-29 Thread clay monroe
How new are the iMac? They do support extended and mirroring, but at that price, I would be looking at the 2009 as oldest to be of that value. You can source a nice MacPro that is much more upgradable for the same price off of eBay. I jacked up mine to 32 gig ram and 1 gig Vram to support

Re: [MBZ] Look at these

2012-01-29 Thread E M
Wonder if it was just a cost saving thing dreamed up by the marketing guys? They couldn't pitch such a car as a lightweight speedster. I guess they could, they've been cheeky enough to keep the SL badge on it all these years. ;-) hee hee A car that requires even more faith in the weather man

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread E M
They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now. As you say, The problem diesels are now decades behind them. If there were such problems, I'm sure it would be well reported. Hard to keep such problems quiet with things like YouTube and the internet now. If the car isn't took old, I think BMW

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-29 Thread Allan Streib
clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net writes: How new are the iMac? They do support extended and mirroring, but at that price, I would be looking at the 2009 as oldest to be of that value. They probably are about 2009. University tends to replace desktops on a 3 year cycle. You can source a

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I agree. The color is always a bit off and when you touch the dash the difference is clear. I'd also rather have a few cracks. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: People say you can't tell the difference... you can if you're critical to

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for driving

2012-01-29 Thread kevin kraly
I just love those Cathey stories! If I only had half his ability to resurrect things that seem to be unserviceable, I would be happy! Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Look at these

2012-01-29 Thread WILTON
'Really enjoy the cruise cont on the 350SDL; makes it seem even more like flying. CC on the 87 300D doesn't always hold well. Wilton - Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 3:12 PM Subject:

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I was trying to be nice, Kaleb... On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: You have to be pretty blind not to be able to tell the difference ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread Allan Streib
To some people can't tell the difference probably means looks good at a glance or maybe even looks better than the cracks not that it necessarily looks original. I have one of those velour mats on my dash in the 300D, and I think it looks better than the cracks but it's certainly obvious

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-29 Thread Fmiser
Curt Raymond wrote: From what I saw almost all 24 monitors are 1920x1080 or 1920x1200, I didn't want a larger monitor as I don't have the desk space for it, the 24 clears the printer and scanner by ~1/2. I can't see my needing any more real estate, I'm only using the left 2/3 of the screen

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for driving

2012-01-29 Thread Fmiser
Jim Cathey wrote: I have a pin punch or two, but nothing that small. I'd worry about breaking off a tool steel punch anyway, and I've had extremely good luck using nails for this kind of thing. When I use nails to drive roll pins, I grind the end flat so the point isn't trying to spread the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-29 Thread clay monroe
you would think. Using paypal, you are pretty safe, since the ebay/paypal duo skew toward the buyer, and screw the seller out of cash in a dispute. You have to spend a good two weeks pursuing the box you want. I have no idea what prices are going now, with the rumors that Apple is going to

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread clay monroe
I am a cheap SOB and if I can get a nice result for a few bucks, I will run with it instead of paying retail for replacement that will age in a few years and end up with the same issue. I guess were I to want concourse, I would gladly shell out and then have a hermetically sealed vault to

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-29 Thread clay monroe
Really, you should hold off until the newest TV things come to market with 3d and 4k lines. Then you can plug in with HDMI and get all sorts of great resolution on your 60 inch screen. Supposed to not be able to discern pixels at 24 inches and you have 240mhz refresh clay On Jan 29, 2012,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-29 Thread Allan Streib
clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net writes: I picked up a G5 tower for $100 off CL. At this point I would not buy a PPC machine because the only reason I would buy a new (i.e. Intel) Mac is to get into iOS development, which you can't do on a PPC Mac. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread Hans Neureiter
Bottom line: you cant't fix a crack in the dash board unless you have a Williy's with naugahide glued to metal. The plastic surface gets brittle , curls up and the foam underneath opens up like the Grand Canyon. Sun and temp changes do that over time. Here in Houston, my '82 126 dash (pitch

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Hans Neureiter
BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels. Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors. Actually, Peugot produced the first commercialy sold diesel passenger car, ahead of Daimler Benz. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: They sell a lot

Re: [MBZ] Jeep Cherokee factory diesel

2012-01-29 Thread Greg Fiorentino
...opossum pie... Don't knock it till you've tried it! Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 12:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jeep Cherokee

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread WILTON
'Lucky so far that black dashes in both my 21-year-old 126 and 25-year-old 124 here in humid and sunny eastern NC are still not cracked. They both sit outside all the time, too. Fingers still crossed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread Allan Streib
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: 'Lucky so far that black dashes in both my 21-year-old 126 and 25-year-old 124 here in humid and sunny eastern NC are still not cracked. They both sit outside all the time, too. Fingers still crossed. For some reason color makes a difference. You'd think

Re: [MBZ] Jeep Cherokee factory diesel

2012-01-29 Thread Greg Fiorentino
1. We moved here from Vancouver BC, so we didn't have to re-memorize the name of our town. 2. We live adjacent to the beautiful Salmon Creek trail. 3. The people are friendly. 4. The crime rate is low. 5. Commuting is easy. 6. One can experience the weirdness of Portland without being always

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread E M
The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they? I was always fond of the styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the years. Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no longer are. I really like some of their current offerings too. If they ever

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Allan Streib
I just cannot imagine ever owning a French car. The old joke: Heaven Is Where: The French are the chefs The Italians are the lovers The British are the police The Germans are the mechanics And the Swiss make everything run on time Hell is Where: The British are

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Hans Neureiter
Boxy, maybe, but they had that strangely slopng rear end. One had to get used to it. Last one I had was a '82. Traded it in for a used 123 in '86 + a ton of cash. Resale value of these cars was zip. When it comes to Ero's, here is my take: Brits - non exist, barely Germans - Over priced and over

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
That's pretty funny except, the French were actually responsible for Bugatti and the Citroen DS- a legend. Andrew and I have a good French friend in DC and he is one hell of a good shadetree mechanic! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread Hans Neureiter
Blue was always most prone to cracking. Must have something to do with the polymers they used. Humidity is a friend. Heat is not. If one would take care of ones dash as ones wife does to her skin, they would just wrinkle or divorce you. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Allan Streib

[MBZ] '98 SLk230 Roadster

2012-01-29 Thread Gerry Archer
Next time the list gets slow how about discussing the '98 SLK230 roadster; opinions, etc? There's a red one in a nearby town with a for sale sign on it that looks to be in pretty good condition. Asking price $10,000 but with taxes coming up, probably get it for less. It has a four cylinder 16

Re: [MBZ] Look at these holes in the roof

2012-01-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
The main purpose of a sunroof is to separate the peasants from the better people. Seriously though, they sorta caught on in Europe because they have long autumns and springs, with little sunlight. So opening a hole in the roof made em feel better and let more light into the cabin. Remember the

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread andrew strasfogel
Notre ami Gael can build a Mercedes from elemental carbon, hydrogen, and iron. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: That's pretty funny except, the French were actually responsible for Bugatti and the Citroen DS- a legend. Andrew and I have a good

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Hans Neureiter
Imagination is one thing. Experience is another. The French can't cook. The Italians do. The Swiss can count money, so do the Germans And the Brits built some of the best looking cars in the past, non of them fit to go past towing distance from the garage. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Look at these manual holes in the roof

2012-01-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
Yeah I guess the designers where pretty tired after coming up with the S123 design and just thought bugger it, we can't be bothered to engineer a powered sunroof into it. Hendrik who owned a 230TE with manny roof Dan Penoff wrote: I always likes the manual sunroof I had in my 79 300TD.

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Hans Neureiter
Who's that guy? (Notre ami Gael ) If I had to build a car (or refrigorator, washmachine, etc.), that's what I'd use. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:20 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Notre ami Gael can build a Mercedes from elemental carbon, hydrogen, and iron. -- Hans

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread E M
lol, I'll have to copy and save that one! :-) Don't know about the cars though, there are a few I'd love to own. One of my neighbours bought an old DS a few years back, and drives it in the summer. I would love to have that car!!! So advanced for it's time, and is still super cool today. For

Re: [MBZ] Look at these P4 machines

2012-01-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
Speaking of convertibles http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEFT-HAND-DRIVE-EX-MOD-PEUGEOT-P4-BASED-MERCEDES-G-/190629619673?pt=Automobiles_UKhash=item2c626927d9 the convertible top is a bit sad. Hendrik who wouldn't mind one of these beasties if they where RH drive Dan Penoff wrote: As described

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread E M
The Bugattis were cool cars, but not so sure they were any wonders of engineering. Not until the Germans from VW came along anyway. Still, they had some cool ideas, and they were pretty committed to the idea of building light cars, like the type 35, when Bentley were building cars there were

Re: [MBZ] Look at these holes in the roof

2012-01-29 Thread Hans Neureiter
Never use mine. Too scared it woun't close when the rain comes. Actually the sun roof was an expensive fall-out from the Citroens CV 2's and Fiats 500's roll-back tops. They saved sheet metal. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: The main purpose of a

Re: [MBZ] Look at these aspiring actress trucks

2012-01-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
As the name implies, the purpose was to have extra seating in the sunny world of California and started with the 113 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W113#California_Coupe I guess the studio execs where complaining that they could only carry so many starlets home in a 2 seater.

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
He's one badass mofo that can fix or make or build or modify anything Mercedes! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: Who's that guy? (Notre ami Gael ) If I had to build a car (or refrigorator, washmachine, etc.), that's what I'd use. On

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-29 Thread Jim Cathey
You have to be pretty blind not to be able to tell the difference Can't say about non-107, but with the plastic caps it's not that you can't actually tell the difference, but it's moderately difficult and you don't care. Looks _almost_ like it belongs there. Maybe the others fit worse? --

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Hans Neureiter
Matra/Simca put a turbo on a 4 cyl F1 about 1965. Rules stipulated that a CAI motor can only be half of the displacement of a NA motor. And they won. My dad hd a '30's? Citroen C 4. What a car! Than he bought a ID 19 (60?, hydraulic suspension, 1-spoke sterring wheel, luminescent roof, what

Re: [MBZ] Look at these top ten things

2012-01-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
Top ten things retired aviators do: Install lights on either side of the drive way. Refer to the missus as the flight attendant because she gave you a black eye after calling her a stewardess. Convert the speedo to read in knots. Put a bumper sticker on the car that reads: I'd rather be

Re: [MBZ] '98 SLk230 Roadster

2012-01-29 Thread Mitch Haley
'98s are the oldest ones. Would have to be absolutely perfect to merit a $10k price tag, at least up around here in January. You're talking 320 AMG money (and the AMG package had a five digit price tag when new IIRC) http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/ctd/2781223507.html I believe the 99s got

Re: [MBZ] Look at these top ten things

2012-01-29 Thread WILTON
Don't forget: Fill out the Form 781 (maintenance log/equipment operating discrepancies). Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Look at these

[MBZ] Look at these top ten things

2012-01-29 Thread WILTON
Oh, also don't forget: Call home to report RTB (returning to base) and an ETA (estimated time of arrival). Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Look at

Re: [MBZ] Look at these top ten things

2012-01-29 Thread OK Don
Back when I was 16 and taking flight lessons, I installed an altimeter and turn bank indicator in my '51 VW bug. The altimeter didn't move much, and the TB pegged with most every bump and correction to stay in my lane. We don't make many two minute turns in a car --- On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:59

Re: [MBZ] Look at these top ten things

2012-01-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
Well you can sorta tell that I have only ever sat up the back of a plane. Hendrik who has pilot controls but can't fly WILTON wrote: Oh, also don't forget: Call home to report RTB (returning to base) and an ETA (estimated time of arrival). Wilton

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