Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD in MO on ebay

2012-06-05 Thread Fmiser
andrew strasfogel wrote: The list of problems seems daunting, considering the starting price for the car. I doubt he'll get a bid. http://search.ebay.com/130707397983 Mitch Haley wrote: Dead A/C is enough to keep it from being worth 3.5K. Bad paint is also enough in my opinion.

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question

2012-06-05 Thread Barry Stark
Kevin - I have an 81SD and I screwed around with all that stupid valve system on top of the valve cover. If I understand its purpose is twofold, first to control the EGR system, and second to modulate the vacuum signal to the vacuum modulator on the tranny. Well on my car it seems that a BB

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question

2012-06-05 Thread Gerry Archer
The '83 300D has been flairing for over 100K since I bought it. Sometimes think about replacing the parts that will fix it but have gotten so used to it the way it is, why bother? Gerry I sold the rusty, trusty, high mileage 240D, so now it's onto the next Mercedes Diesel. I found a

Re: [MBZ] OT: for GM 3.8-liter V-6 fans (Mitch? Snook?) asybu3aj

2012-06-05 Thread Dan Penoff
Boatloads of these things down here. Very popular with the blue haired crowd. Dan Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Copied from a post by Esq. Snook. As far as cheap reliable cars from GM, I would

Re: [MBZ] OT: for GM 3.8-liter V-6 fans (Mitch? Snook?) asybu3aj

2012-06-05 Thread Dan Penoff
For that matter, the inlaws have a couple of Buicks. Hers is pretty plain, but Dad's is something really nice, like a Lucerne or something. I wouldn't mind driving it - it is a nice car. Dan Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Boatloads of these things down here. Very popular with the blue

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question

2012-06-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
I think the correct word is flaring. On 6/5/12, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The '83 300D has been flairing for over 100K since I bought it. Sometimes think about replacing the parts that will fix it but have gotten so used to it the way it is, why bother? Gerry I sold

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question

2012-06-05 Thread Rich Thomas
He's talking about Nature Boy Ric Flair --R On 6/5/12 10:17 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I think the correct word is flaring. On 6/5/12, Gerry Archerarche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The '83 300D has been flairing for over 100K since I bought it. Sometimes think about replacing the

[MBZ] Fwd: The Transit of Venus asybu3aj

2012-06-05 Thread Rich Thomas
Original Message Subject:The Transit of Venus Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:03:07 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com This is a once in several lifetimes experience. I think watching it

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question

2012-06-05 Thread Gerry Archer
You young guys misspell so many words, I forget the true spelling and my declining memory doesn't help either. Many people born after WW-2 don't know how to spell. It's because of the whole word learning system adopted by many schools back then that enriched textbook publishers because schools

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question

2012-06-05 Thread Rich Thomas
There all loosers --R On 6/5/12 11:12 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: You young guys misspell so many words, I forget the true spelling and my declining memory doesn't help either. Many people born after WW-2 don't know how to spell. It's because of the whole word learning system adopted by many

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question

2012-06-05 Thread clay monroe
I would go with the 126 Kevin. Though they are not as ubiquitous as the 123, the finish is nicer and lots more room. You can use much of the same parts as the 123 to keep it on the road. I am not enamored of the 123, it is common and most of them do not get the care they deserved by being the

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question

2012-06-05 Thread clay monroe
I agree. I was going to improve Frosch by removing the AC clutter, since it does not function. Mechanic told me not to. I would gain no measurable power and probably piss off the next owner when he wanted to do a complete restore and it was missing all the a/c goodies. I decided that when

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question

2012-06-05 Thread clay monroe
It could just be an issue with fluid level and gunk in the filter. What does the fluid look like? High miles and minimal care would doom a transmission. Does he have records? I was pretty pleased that Frosch had records since 1987 that showed continual care and major work was done as

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question

2012-06-05 Thread clay monroe
car would have to be excessively inexpensive for me to bite, knowing I would have to redo the trans that quickly. Budget $2k for a trans, and the car would have to come in at $1k, have no other issue and be wanting only fluids, filters and detailing clay On Jun 4, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Allan

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Merritt's car

2012-06-05 Thread clay monroe
I get a bag of them when my indy works. Good to show SWMBA that it was cash well spent, and indy saves on disposal fees. clay On Jun 4, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Likely no lawsuit here, unless you can demonstrate a pattern of the shop doing this routinely. Gawd you hate to

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question

2012-06-05 Thread Curt Raymond
I learned phonics, I think most everybody has for the last 30 years or so... -Curt Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:12:04 -0400 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question Message-ID:

[MBZ] OT - copper thieves

2012-06-05 Thread WILTON
Last Sunday afternoon, I visited my sister and her husband in rural, eastern NC; not a densely-populated area but not very sparsely-populated, either - houses across road from each other and many less than quarter mile apart, etc. Sitting on their porch facing the main highway, BIL told me

Re: [MBZ] OT - copper thieves

2012-06-05 Thread Allan Streib
Often cable TV and telephone share roadside poles with power lines. The power lines are on top, the cable/phone lower down on the pole. Could have been a cable or phone line. Power lines are not copper. Allan On Tue, Jun 5, 2012, at 02:06 PM, WILTON wrote: Last Sunday afternoon, I visited

Re: [MBZ] OT - copper thieves

2012-06-05 Thread WILTON
The TV cable/phone cable(s) -easily recognized - are strung underneath the one that was taken. BIL said that stolen cable was replaced with a galvanized steel cable by the power co. (Progress Energy). Wilton - Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes

[MBZ] OT - copper thieves

2012-06-05 Thread WILTON
Just found May 31 headline in local (for that area) newspaper, Rocky Mount Telegram, Two men charged with 282 counts of theft of Progress Energy wires. Unable to read article, 'cause don't have a subscription to the paper. 'Course, wires may not have been copper, but they WERE part of power

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question

2012-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: I learned phonics, I think most everybody has for the last 30 years or so... Phonics has gone in and out of style for a long time. Around 1940, when my mom learned to read, it was in fashion. 1945ish, my grandma taught my aunt to read at home because they weren't teaching

Re: [MBZ] OT - copper thieves

2012-06-05 Thread Rich Thomas
There was some idiot here a few months back who decided to steal the grounding wire from a large transformer serving a subdivision. While he was cutting the wire off the transformer he got fried, but Darwin did not get him -- he survived and was taken to the burn hospital most likely to be

[MBZ] 1985 300TD

2012-06-05 Thread M G
Who was looking for a TD? This one looks to be not all that bad for the price. http://gainesville.craigslist.org/cto/3049825584.html Manfred 1984 Mercedes Benz turbo diesel 300 wagon. Tires are 1 year old. Regular oil changes. New high pressure hydraulic line. New air filter. Brake pads are 1

Re: [MBZ] OT - copper thieves

2012-06-05 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I agree with the permit thing. My brother bought a foreclosure a little while back which had all copper pipes stolen. After he bought it there were repeated break-ins into the basement to steal what was already stolen. We laughed at the morons. He then had it all re-plumbed with PEX. Sent

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD

2012-06-05 Thread Randy Bennell
I wonder if no a/c means all the parts have been removed? Randy On 05/06/2012 4:00 PM, M G wrote: Who was looking for a TD? This one looks to be not all that bad for the price. http://gainesville.craigslist.org/cto/3049825584.html Manfred 1984 Mercedes Benz turbo diesel 300 wagon. Tires are

[MBZ] 2008 C350?

2012-06-05 Thread Dan Penoff
A woman I work with has a 2008 C350/350C, whatever it is. Nice sedan, claims she bought it from the local MB stealership last year for $12,000 with only 7,000 miles on it. Said she traded a 2004 diesel sedan in on this car. Does this sound right? I can't imagine this car depreciating that

Re: [MBZ] OT - copper thieves

2012-06-05 Thread Dan Penoff
Big issue here with AC condensers. I think you have to provide a valid ID to sell them for scrap, but knowing the local scrap dealers that's easy enough to get around. Dan On Jun 5, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: There was some idiot here a few

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question

2012-06-05 Thread Dan Penoff
Had phonics in the mid/late 60's in my part of Indiana. By the mid 70's it had already fallen by the wayside. Dan On Jun 5, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: I learned phonics, I think most everybody has for the last 30 years or so... Phonics has

Re: [MBZ] OT - copper thieves

2012-06-05 Thread Dan Penoff
Ground conductors in an aerial distribution system are on top and commonly referred to as an aerial. Dan On Jun 5, 2012, at 2:06 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Last Sunday afternoon, I visited my sister and her husband in rural, eastern NC; not a densely-populated area but not very

Re: [MBZ] 2008 C350?

2012-06-05 Thread John Freer
Other issue is that there were no 2004 MB diesels in the US. John Sent from my iPad On Jun 5, 2012, at 3:43 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: A woman I work with has a 2008 C350/350C, whatever it is. Nice sedan, claims she bought it from the local MB stealership last year for $12,000

Re: [MBZ] 2008 C350?

2012-06-05 Thread Dan Penoff
It would have been a later model, then. This was a quick chat on the way to the parking garage after work, so I could have gotten it wrong. She definitely said she traded a diesel in for it, and got almost what she paid in trade for it. I was more interested in the 350 for $12k. If that is

Re: [MBZ] OT - copper thieves

2012-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: Here in Charleston County you now have to go to the Sheriff to get a permit to sell any kind of scrap metal, and they check that at all the yards. So the thieves steal in Charleston and sell elsewhere? Mitch. ___

[MBZ] OT use number 93 for a dead cat

2012-06-05 Thread Hendrik Fay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS8EXkiicOofeature=related Spose flying it over the dog pound would be kind of cruel. Hendrik who will not be turning his cat into a helicopter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] 2008 C350?

2012-06-05 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Doesn't sound right at all. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: A woman I work with has a 2008 C350/350C, whatever it is. Nice sedan, claims she bought it from the local MB stealership last year for $12,000 with only 7,000 miles on it. Said she

Re: [MBZ] Poles

2012-06-05 Thread RELNGSON
...Often cable TV and telephone share roadside poles with power lines.  The power lines are on top, the cable/phone lower down on the pole.  Could have been a cable or phone line.  Power lines are not copper... Almost always. Highest voltage is at the top (single uninsulated conductor)

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question

2012-06-05 Thread barrystark
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Re: [MBZ] OT - copper thieves

2012-06-05 Thread Scott Ritchey
There's all kinds of paperwork for honest citizens to sell scrap metal here but somehow it seems to get overlooked whenever real thieves sell their booty. Like gun control: a barrier for law-abiding citizens but no effect on crooks. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT use number 93 for a dead cat

2012-06-05 Thread G Mann
Hendrik, Thanks, I'll be saving this one for replay every time the fur covered dictator of the house uses my custom made boots for scratching post... ... h.. wonder if a simple application of duct tape / cat / and machine would fly h... water landing anyone???... auto cat wash?

Re: [MBZ] OT - copper thieves

2012-06-05 Thread WILTON
What is the lower, single (not insulated) one above the TV and phone cables? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - copper thieves Ground conductors

Re: [MBZ] OT - copper thieves

2012-06-05 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
The scrap yards should have state officials come by to conduct random periodic inspections to make sure that the sellers are licensed. I hate big government but I hate scumbags even more. Those copper thieves are the lowest form of pond scum. I have a friend who had his copper pipes stolen and

[MBZ] Telephone Poles

2012-06-05 Thread Jerry Herrman
on the phone. Thinking about it now, I'll bet he was calling his girlfriend. Jerry 82 240D __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7198 (20120605) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Re: [MBZ] Telephone Poles

2012-06-05 Thread Dan Penoff
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[MBZ] Oz has to go nuclear

2012-06-05 Thread Gerry Archer
Prominent University of Adelaide climate scientist Professor Barry Brook says it's inevitable that Australia will embrace nuclear energy in the battle against greenhouse gas emissions. The director of climate science at the university believes that by the end of the century, Australia will need

Re: [MBZ] Telephone Poles

2012-06-05 Thread Gerry Archer
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Re: [MBZ] OT - copper thieves

2012-06-05 Thread Mountain Man
Dimitri wrote: I hate big government but I hate scumbags even more. I cannot disagree, but government does not do this type of work. I would much rather be one of the fellow citizens outside the scrap yard ready to nail the thief than to depend on taxes to pay government to accomplish these

[MBZ] Poles 2

2012-06-05 Thread RELNGSON
I posted: Highest voltage is at the top (single uninsulated conductor) feeding the transformers, next is transformer output serving the power drops to the subscribers. Next is telephone and TV is on the bottom. The poles (NOT telephone poles but utility poles) are owned by the power company

Re: [MBZ] Telephone Poles

2012-06-05 Thread Dieselhead
During the '30s, '40s, and '50s in Florida there were telephone poles along main roads with multiple crosspieces that had dozens of telephone wires. REA power poles were separate. Driving along the highway you could hear the telephone wires singing. Even after studying electronics, I never

[MBZ] OT - Russia Today tv

2012-06-05 Thread Mountain Man
Someone please watch a few issues of Russia Today tv and tell me where the Putin schmooze is coming through. I am enjoying what I hear on their programs - Capital Account with Lauren Lyster and The Alyona show. These can be watched at youtube. If you sort by upload date you can see today's

Re: [MBZ] 2008 C350?

2012-06-05 Thread Allan Streib
Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: A woman I work with has a 2008 C350/350C, whatever it is. Nice sedan, claims she bought it from the local MB stealership last year for $12,000 with only 7,000 miles on it. Said she traded a 2004 diesel sedan in on this car. Does this sound right? I

Re: [MBZ] Telephone Poles

2012-06-05 Thread Allan Streib
Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com writes: This is interesting. Were they at one time real telephone poles, owned and operated by the telephone company? If so, would this have been the old familiar Bell System of 30 plus years ago? Or did I have it wrong all these years and the power company

Re: [MBZ] Poles 3

2012-06-05 Thread RELNGSON
...During the '30s, '40s, and '50s in Florida there were telephone poles along main roads with multiple crosspieces that had dozens of telephone wires. REA power poles were separate... That would be correct, back before multi-pair cables when manual switchboards were manned by Operator

Re: [MBZ] C350

2012-06-05 Thread RELNGSON
A woman I work with has a 2008 C350/350C, whatever it is. Nice sedan, claims she bought it from the local MB stealership last year for $12,000 with only 7,000 miles on it. Said she traded a 2004 diesel sedan in on this car. Does this sound right? I can't imagine this car depreciating

Re: [MBZ] C350-2

2012-06-05 Thread RELNGSON
..Said she traded a 2004 diesel sedan in on this car... Oops, 2004. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] Golf and Benz

2012-06-05 Thread Rich Thomas
... But, the interesting part I see in the paper today is Also, as an official PGA patron, Mercedes-Benz will provide free parking in the public parking area for any spectator arriving in a Mercedes-Benz. http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20120605/PC16/120609566/1165/pga-officials-unveil-traffic

Re: [MBZ] Telephone Poles

2012-06-05 Thread Rich Thomas
allowed him to call anywhere with no long distance fees. Sometimes he'd be up there for a long time on the phone. Thinking about it now, I'll bet he was calling his girlfriend. Jerry 82 240D __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7198 (20120605

Re: [MBZ] Poles 2

2012-06-05 Thread Brian Toscano
That's generally true. If the power company also runs fiber, it is typically between their power lines and the phone company lines. On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:03 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: I posted: Highest voltage is at the top (single uninsulated conductor) feeding the transformers, next

Re: [MBZ] Telephone Poles

2012-06-05 Thread Mountain Man
--R- wrote: Who was the first telephone pole? Alexander Graham Belinski! Your such a looser. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Telephone Poles

2012-06-05 Thread WILTON
it now, I'll bet he was calling his girlfriend. Jerry 82 240D __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7198 (20120605) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http

Re: [MBZ] Poles 2

2012-06-05 Thread WILTON
I think the wire I'm talking about is a pole-to-pole ground. Wilton - Original Message - From: relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] Poles 2 I posted: Highest voltage is at the top (single uninsulated conductor) feeding the

Re: [MBZ] Telephone Poles

2012-06-05 Thread Dieselhead
I thought he was just a loose nutperhaps 10 mm? --R- wrote: Who was the first telephone pole? Alexander Graham Belinski! Your such a looser. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT use number 93 for a dead cat

2012-06-05 Thread Hendrik Fay
Perhaps print this off, frame it and place next to fancy boots http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/photo-gallery-of-cat-helicopter-constructed-by-artist-bart-jansen-fotostrecke-83221-6.html Hendrik who has an outside cat On 06/06/12 09:22, G Mann wrote: Hendrik, Thanks, I'll be saving this one

Re: [MBZ] Telephone Poles

2012-06-05 Thread Rick Knoble
What were the poles along the RR tracks with two cross bars, wires, and the colored glass insulators? Telephone or telegraph? Stop Rick stop Sent from my wireless telegraph. Stop ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD Question

2012-06-05 Thread Kevin Kraly
I went to look at the 1982 300SD today, and it didn't follow me home. It had many strengths although it had lots of little issues, but one big thing chased me off. The first red flag went up when he pulled in with the car as we were pulling up. I personally like to start a car cold to see