G Mann wrote:
Some wind tunnel data I've seen, which came out of Wright
Patterson so I tend to believe it, says below 50 MPH drag
force on a car is not really a factor. Certainly, in rush
hour, start stop, it is not, At sustained speed above 50 MPH
the drag factor increases with speed to
OK Don wrote:
I was asking if there was any negative effect on
one of the list members -
Rick Knoble wrote:
Probably Philip, who originally asked for the cap to be
raised. Oops.
*weak smile*
A link would have been nice...
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On Jan 14, 2013, at 12:22, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote:
No they do not grow back, the pieces are still floating around in there.
Rehab was exercising the back muscles that
Out of curiosity I looked up the rules of conduct for Okiebenz:
This is the replacement to the mbz.org banned list. The original banned
list was started in 1999 because many of the core MB list folks were banned
from various other lists for many different reasons, some valid and some
not. We are
No sound for me, viewed on my Motorola RAZR Maxx.
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OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
Did anyone have a problem with the attached video? I didn't ---
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Gerry,
I would respectfully submit that you appear to be reading the description for
the Okiebenz Banned list, not this list.
Dan also a founding member of the original Banned and R/E list
On Jan 15, 2013, at 5:22 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
Out of curiosity I looked up
ELEPHANT MOUNTAIN, Maine -
Flying low over snowy terrain on a Cold War training mission, Lt. Col. Dan
Bulli's massive B-52 bomber hit turbulence that shook the plane so violently
that he couldn't read the gauges. Pulling back on the yoke and pushing
forward on the throttle, he tried to fly out
By George, you're right. I looked at the address: www.okiebenz.com/lists/
and assumed it applied to all the lists. Careless of me; sorry. That was
the only rules list I saw. Is there no rules list for the Mercedes list?
Gerry
From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
Gerry,
I would respectfully
OK Don wrote:
Did anyone have a problem with the attached video? I didn't ---
It downloaded while I was away from the computer, but IMO it should have been
saved on Kaleb's server and a link inserted in the email.
What happened with the digest subscribers?
Mitch.
It's ugly and does indeed look hyundai-esque. All those silly creases and
curves What where they thinking? Audis have much nicer and cleaner
designs. Look at the gorgeous A7.
Mercedes nowadays is just one giant disappointment.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Chris James
Yeah - what gives? I thought we were protected from this sort of OT stuff.
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
By George, you're right. I looked at the address: www.okiebenz.com/lists/
and assumed it applied to all the lists. Careless of me; sorry.
I would probably ignore it.
I haven't met anyone on either side of the fence that will change their
mind on the issue so debating seems pointless.
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:
My question is what would the outcome be if someone posted a link to a
G Mann wrote:
I personally believe most of the Swoopy built into cars currently is for
marketing more than anything else. If it looks a certain way, you must be
saving money on gas, school of engineered marketing. On par with the
marketing of the 50's and 60's when you could Hear the power so
Well, I took the plunge and decided to list some shoes on ebay! It will just be
a hobby, but maybe it will pay for the shoes I buy.
Here are the listings if anyone needs some dress shoes.
Does that include Tasmania? I thought Tasmania was sort of Wild West?
Gerry
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com
wrote:
My question is what would the outcome be if someone posted a link to a
website where you can sign up to support gun control?
Anyway whatever
Sounds like you are quoting the banned page
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:22 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
Out of curiosity I looked up the rules of conduct for Okiebenz:
This is the replacement to the mbz.org banned list. The original banned
list was started
I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list.
--R
On 1/15/13 9:47 AM, Donald Snook wrote:
Well, I took the plunge and decided to list some shoes on ebay! It will just be
a hobby, but maybe it will pay for the shoes I buy.
Here are the listings if anyone needs some dress shoes.
Someone please explain exactly how I can identify which list I am
responding to.
Notice that there is NO identifying information in the email headers that
says Banned List Message, cursing and eating of young permitted .. or..
Only politic correct comments and Mercedes discussions [except oil and
See you have some bids already, good luck!
On 1/15/2013 9:47 AM, Donald Snook wrote:
Well, I took the plunge and decided to list some shoes on ebay!
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lol
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-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich
Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:02 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion
My nozzle adjusting tool (straight pin) has always worked great on the 4
MB's that I've had. 'Glad to send anybody one, or even 2, for 5 bucks plus
shipping.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent:
Well.. actually, it does. When your Mercedes is broken, what do you have to
use? Your Shoes. Think.. Ultimate Spare Tire. Out of fuel, Shoes. Spare
tire flat, Shoes. Won't start in a remote location with no phone service,
Shoes again...
Just saying... for those of us who think further outside
I thought we were protected from this sort of OT stuff.
--R
On 1/15/13 10:58 AM, G Mann wrote:
Well.. actually, it does. When your Mercedes is broken, what do you have to
use? Your Shoes. Think.. Ultimate Spare Tire. Out of fuel, Shoes. Spare
tire flat, Shoes. Won't start in a remote location
. slide rule? None; use baby powder, or appropriate talc not so heavily
perfumed. ;)
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT GUN: RKBA
On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:07 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
Someone please explain exactly how I can identify which list I am
responding to.
Re: [MBZ]
As opposed to
Re: [Banned]
Sorry if that was a rhetorical question. I answer those sometimes...
You have to sign up for Banned. There
On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:07 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
Grant...
-Waiting to hurl invectives and eat young kittens while being assaulted by
my equals while wearing big boy pants-
Sign up here then.
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com
Pretty tame lately.
On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah - what gives? I thought we were protected from this sort of OT stuff.
We have a gentleman's agreement about no politics, and no cursing. No written
rules, that I am aware of. We should probably add to that
http://www.froglube.com/roothome.htm
Absolutely the best lubricant for the application you seek. I'm sure there
are Mercedes Diesel uses for it also.. I will continue to explore them.
Since it both lubricates and rejects water AND dust it seems it might be
the lubricant of choice for door locks
On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
Well, I took the plunge and decided to list some shoes on ebay! It will just
be a hobby, but maybe it will pay for the shoes I buy.
Have you scrounged any Frye or Stewarts boots yet?
Rick
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 15, 2013, at 7:08 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
All those silly creases and curves What where they thinking?
Creases add strength to otherwise flat panels...?
Rick
Trying to think like an engineer and not a marketing consultant.
Sent from my iPhone
You don't see these too often.
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/3536505834.html
Alex
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It's hard to know when the wipers quit because i didn't try them after
messing with the ignition switch . we went right on to the engine
mount
i think the engine mount exchange caused little disturbance to very much
i only did the driver's side it had been soaked with leaking ATF
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:58 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
-Who always keeps spare boots and socks as part of his first aid bug out
bag in the trunk-
I keep a change of work clothes (somewhat too big*) in a vacuum storage bag
in the trunk, and also a pair of old sneakers. Good for
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote:
On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
wrote:
Yeah - what gives? I thought we were protected from this sort of OT
stuff.
After-the-fact Kaleb can ban (and has). He doesn't
On 15/01/2013 11:38 AM, Rick Knoble wrote:
On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah - what gives? I thought we were protected from this sort of OT stuff.
We have a gentleman's agreement about no politics, and no cursing. No written
rules, that I am
We have a gentleman's agreement about no politics...
Fair enough. At the time that I posted the link I was not aware of this.
If I am moved at any time in the future to share such items I will restrict
such postings to Banned.
Greg
-Original Message-
From: Mercedes
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:11:39 -0500 Gerry Archer
arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
ELEPHANT MOUNTAIN, Maine -
Flying low over snowy terrain on a Cold War training mission, Lt. Col.
Dan Bulli's massive B-52 bomber hit turbulence that shook the plane so
violently that he couldn't read the gauges.
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote:
We have a gentleman's agreement about no politics...
Fair enough. At the time that I posted the link I was not aware of this.
If I am moved at any time in the future to share such items I will restrict
such
Rich wrote: I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list.
You are probably right. I am not planning to inundate the list with Ebay
listings of shoes. I just sent the one. PLUS, I did label it OT (for Off
Topic). :)
Donald H. Snook
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Rick wrote: Have you scrounged any Frye or Stewarts boots yet?
I wasn't looking for boots. But, if I find any, I'll let you know OFF LIST.
Donald H. Snook
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Can't say it is your problem, but I had the radio and wipers fail at the
same time. It was a single fuse, and I remember that it was labeled oddly
- neither radio nor wipers. I don't remember if there was any other
symptom.
Could be wiring but if you have a sheet of spares it might be worth
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:39 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.froglube.com/roothome.htm
Absolutely the best lubricant for the application you seek. I'm sure there
are Mercedes Diesel uses for it also.. I will continue to explore them.
Since it both lubricates and rejects water
THE HAIRCUT
Blessed are those that can give without remembering, and take without
forgetting.
One day a florist went to a barber for a haircut. After the cut, he
asked about his bill, and the barber replied, 'I cannot accept money
from you, I'm doing community service this week.'
The florist
Yes, and very aware of additional warnings in flight manual re. mountain
wave, excessive turbulence, side loads on vertical stabilizer, etc.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:51 PM
Subject: Re:
That's why I said semi civilised.
Hendrik
who found a hole in the exhaust system and no not the one on the end
On 16/01/13 01:23, Gerry Archer wrote:
Does that include Tasmania? I thought Tasmania was sort of Wild West?
Gerry
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Hendrik and fay
Grr.
Rick
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
Date: January 15, 2013 5:50:03 PM CST
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Shoes
On Jan 15, 2013, at 3:34 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
Rich
This is tempting
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hazet-4850-1-washer-nozzle-adjusting-tool-w-magnet-/200873265517#shId
The problem with some of these make do set ups is that the pin can break
off, especially if the nozzle is a tad seized.
Hendrik
who is trying to justify the purchase, ahh hang on
WHAT??? You read the manual??
Hendrik
who must confess that he has read a manual or two
On 16/01/13 08:19, WILTON wrote:
Yes, and very aware of additional warnings in flight manual re.
mountain wave, excessive turbulence, side loads on vertical
stabilizer, etc.
Wilton
Just buy coupla my nozzle adjusting tools (seamstresses and I call 'em
straight pins) - 5 bucks plus shipping. ;)
BTW, what do you mates call 'em?
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday,
Only as a last resort. When thumbing through it looking at the pretty
pictures, one couldn't help but see the occasional WARNING: AT LOW ALTITUDE
BE WARE OF POSSIBLE EXCESSIVE MOUNTAIN WAVE TURBULENCE ON DOWNWIND SIDE OF
MOUNTAINS!!;)
BTW, such turbulence can also occur at higher
Oh well
dojo...@dcacable.net has been removed from Mercedes.
walton.d...@gmail.com has been removed from Mercedes.
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OK wrote:
Did anyone have a problem with the attached video? I didn't ---
I didn't either, but the okiebenz approval process had a 9-day problem
of approving the attachment.
mao
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I believe the term is sewing pins.
Hendrik
who bought the PROPER tool
On 16/01/13 11:08, WILTON wrote:
Just buy coupla my nozzle adjusting tools (seamstresses and I call 'em
straight pins) - 5 bucks plus shipping. ;)
BTW, what do you mates call 'em?
Wilton
My KE 4080-3 still swells in humid weather and sticks. It works fine in
dry weather. Will Mobil1 cure this problem? Also, the top rail of the
hair-line holder has cracked in two places and the pressure spring is
broken. Where can I get spare parts? This is my apocalypse calculator,
since I've lost
Wilton,
Tell them how the USAF modified the airplane to reduce the structural loads.
I think all those with an aviation perspective will find it amusing.
Scott
-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013
It's a TOOL - you don't need an other reason to buy it!
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:
This is tempting http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/**Hazet-4850-1-washer-nozzle-*
Hi,
I want to thank you guys for the feedback on the 1999 E320 4matic (90K) I
was considering. I passed on the car after getting a mechanic to check it out.
It needed the 4 tires I knew about plus all 4 brakes. The climate control
screen was cracked and the zenon headlight was cracked
Greg wrote:
I strongly believe in open and fair discussion on the course our nation has
taken and should take. I do not believe that silencing one side of a
discussion has a place in a democracy.
Shall I let Kaleb ban me right now? - go ahead.
I want to know that place of which you speak -
Two out of how many? Not too bad.
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:
Oh well
dojo...@dcacable.net has been removed from Mercedes.
walton.d...@gmail.com has been removed from Mercedes.
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Waitaminit! I just posted something referring to politicians today...
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On Jan 15, 2013, at 5:22, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
Out of curiosity I looked up the rules of conduct for Okiebenz:
This is
You know, all kinds of OT things get addressed on this list, generally
uncensored. I find it absolutely astounding that folks who are called
liberal (look it up) think they have the right to censor anyone that
doesn't agree with them.
Seriously, if the anti-gun folks have facts and data (not
On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote:
I am now going to look at a 2004 E320 4matic 70K. It's a two owner vehicle
with one minor fender accident.. no frame issues. Opinions on this
car would again be greatly appreciated before I go for my first look
Not usually in Maine.
On Jan 15, 2013, at 7:49 PM, WILTON wrote:
Only as a last resort. When thumbing through it looking at the pretty
pictures, one couldn't help but see the occasional WARNING: AT LOW ALTITUDE
BE WARE OF POSSIBLE EXCESSIVE MOUNTAIN WAVE TURBULENCE ON DOWNWIND SIDE OF
These clips from The View may be instructive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmmWzRzaYFw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKid4Dwg7MA
-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime
Kopchinski
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Mercedes
I do not mean to offend anyone but I have very little patience or respect for
somebody who is scared of the very mention of guns.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
Two out of how many? Not too bad.
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Kaleb C.
I will turn in all my guns and ammo if one person can come up with some facts
as to how banning guns, passing more laws or having more restrictions would
have prevented recent events. Only law abiding citizens follow the law.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Scott Ritchey
Well, yes, that's another name we call 'em, too.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles with a magnetic
M1 talc should take care of the KE sticking prob. 'Haven't used mine in so
long, I've probably forgotten how.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:04 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT Slide
Wow I am informed, I agree with all that
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 15, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:
These clips from The View may be instructive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmmWzRzaYFw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKid4Dwg7MA
-Original
Well, we were restricted to 270 knots IAS at low level (altitude) for years.
I think any other fix for it may have been done during the 3 years I was
off active duty, and I don't remember what it was. When I left G models at
Robins, restriction was still on; when I came back to H models 3
That's good enough reason to buy my sewing pin nozzle adjusting TOOLS - 5
bucks plus shipping. ;)
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new
My thoughts, too.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness
Not usually in Maine.
On Jan 15, 2013,
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:03:17 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
M1 talc should take care of the KE sticking prob. 'Haven't used mine
in so long, I've probably forgotten how.
I haven't used mine in quite a long time (it was a college graduation
present!). I can do the basics, but I cannot
OK. In simple terms, they wacked the top several feet off the vertical tail
and removed the ailerons. This produced interesting control coordination:
when you bank you need to add power and up elevator (both more than
expected) to maintain level flight. Even so, there were guys (back then all
I saw them new for $70K. Doesn't seem all that long ago either...
How the mighty have fallen...
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:
You don't see these too often.
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/3536505834.html
Alex
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:04:07 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
This is my apocalypse calculator, since I've lost the ability to
multiply manually due to the excessive use of electronic calculators :-)
It will work just fine, as long as you accept that 2 x 2 = 3.99.
Craig
I don't recognize Jones, but Dave had some good MBZ info.
Mitch.
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Oh well
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walton.d...@gmail.com has been removed from Mercedes.
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Oh, well, of course - couple of the differences between early (A through F
models) and G and H models - vertical stabilizers on G's and H's are 7 feet
shorter; spoilers on top of wing replaced ailerons. I started in E' and F's
for a few hours of training in '62; then operational in G's for 6
I had a girlfriend in college whose father had been a navigator, he told
me he had seen B-52s come back from missions around the north pole with
their tails ventilated by the rooshans. I guess things got a little
touchy now and then.
--R
On 1/15/13 11:04 PM, WILTON wrote:
Oh, well, of
OK Don, Wilton, et al.
That sparked a synapse or two.
Dug out my Picket N1010-ES Trig. and it still slides smoothly, aluminium y'know.
Now if only I could remember how to use the bloody thing!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.
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