Re: [MBZ] OM606 in W126 300SDL

2016-11-27 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > A 6 bt is bigger and heavier, and the new ones are more refined, but it is > too heavy for half or 3/4 ton peekups. I disagree. I really like the 6BT in my 3/4 Dodge. Feels and drives like a truck, not a car. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] needs much repair 82 380SEL

2016-11-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I am looking for a M116 engine and trans. A 380SEL would be ideal. a 420SEL would be even better. (Gen II 126, more HP) I think I could make the M117 from a 500SEL or a 560SEL work. The reason I am looking for the long body is because I think I could take one of my spare OM603 engines

Re: [MBZ] OM606 in W126 300SDL

2016-11-27 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Ford or Dodge truck, Chevy will require major modifications. Front oil sump vs rear oil sump Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OM606 in W126 300SDL

2016-11-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I agree. A 4BT rattles and shakes and makes a lot of noise. It is much heavier than the gas engine the trucks came with. A 6 bt is bigger and heavier, and the new ones are more refined, but it is too heavy for half or 3/4 ton peekups. A 6 BT might work in a 1 ton, but for 1.5 or 2 ton,

Re: [MBZ] OM606 in W126 300SDL

2016-11-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've never been so excited about driving big truck engines in passenger type vehicles. The only 6BT I drove was an '01 24 valve and it had nothing on an MB or VW diesel. Gearing decides where you rev to. For a 1 ton truck the 6BT is probably the best choice but for something smaller like a 1/2

Re: [MBZ] OM606 in W126 300SDL

2016-11-27 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
They don't have much torque until they rev. A 4bt is much easier and cheaper to fit and tune in any sort of truck here in the us. On Nov 27, 2016 11:39 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Agreed. Using an OM603 or an OM606 to convert any vergasser from a 123 > to

Re: [MBZ] OM606 in W126 300SDL

2016-11-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
But in the time frame I am talking about they sold plenty of gasser wagons in the 124 and 210, why not diesel? Maybe they did not think there was enough demand. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 27, 2016, at 5:42 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > The bow tie

Re: [MBZ] OM606 in W126 300SDL

2016-11-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The bow tie guys. "Crossovers" and "SUV"s are "in" Wagons are "out" of style. Doesn't matter who wants em. The bowties decreed you WILL buy an ML. (Or an R) Now there is a whole slew of new "alphabet soup nonsense" models that look like MLs or descendants of the AMC concorde 4WD. Same

Re: [MBZ] OM606 in W126 300SDL

2016-11-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I could see that for not going past 99 but we already had diesel sedans 90-93 so why not wagon? Same with 96-99. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 27, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > EPA > >> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OM606 in W126 300SDL

2016-11-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
EPA Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes November 27, 2016 at 1:39 PM I don't know why they did not install a 2.5 turbo in the later 124 wagons or why no diesel 210, or why they did not continue the diesel 210 past 99. ___

Re: [MBZ] OM606 in W126 300SDL

2016-11-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I don't know why they did not install a 2.5 turbo in the later 124 wagons or why no diesel 210, or why they did not continue the diesel 210 past 99. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 27, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > I wonder why there was no 1999

Re: [MBZ] OM606 in W126 300SDL

2016-11-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Agreed. Using an OM603 or an OM606 to convert any vergasser from a 123 to a pickup truck into a useful car or pickup makes sense to me. If I had a pickup, or a one ton, I'd be looking for an OM606 turbo. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes November 27, 2016 at 1:15

Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Begin!

2016-11-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Slow day today. Seems that the cumulative affects of the week have caught up with me. I am drained. Mild tinkering and clean up stuff so far: Drained PS reservoir, installed new filter and topped off with MB fluid. Old fluid was a little dark, but not bad. It was MB fluid, which is good.

Re: [MBZ] OM606 in W126 300SDL

2016-11-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I wonder why there was no 1999 turbo diesel 4matic in the 210 chassis. I'd buy one of those, dark green wagon please. Mitch > On November 27, 2016 at 2:15 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > Seems pointless to me. Now I have heard about installing a 606

Re: [MBZ] OM606 in W126 300SDL

2016-11-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Seems pointless to me. Now I have heard about installing a 606 turbo in a 140 diesel. The 606 powered turbo 140 was available in other countries I do believe. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 27, 2016, at 12:51 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Interesting

[MBZ] OM606 in W126 300SDL

2016-11-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Interesting project. does not seem worthwhile with a running 300SDL, but interesting to know it can be done. Very short on details though. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/1989953-new-project-om606-into-w126-lwb-2.html Has anyone heard of converting a w126 vergasser to

Re: [MBZ] Test Refrigerant

2016-11-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Iirc Jim Cathy said it's "wet" which made it unsuitable for use in AC systems. I've found the stuff in 20# cans to be oily which can clog up gas jets in heaters. We refill 1# cans for the Mr Heater at camp and about once a year I have to clean the jets... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Re: [MBZ] Test Refrigerant

2016-11-27 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
I just noticed that they do not call it R-12A any longer. It’s R-134A. Probably some rule about not being to replace anything in an R-12 system. Jon > On Nov 27, 2016, at 11:21 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > Commercial grade propane. > It's the highest

Re: [MBZ] Test Refrigerant

2016-11-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
You can cook with HD10 but you really need HD5 for your forklift if you don't like gummy piston rings. http://www.propane101.com/propanegradesandquality.htm > On November 27, 2016 at 11:47 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Is the kind they pump into your 20

Re: [MBZ] Test Refrigerant

2016-11-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Is the kind they pump into your 20 lb tank the same, or do they pawn off some low grade crap for BBQ grills and forklifts? I am guessing the tank exchange IS low grade crap. Mitch Haley via Mercedes November 27, 2016 at 10:21 AM Commercial grade propane. It's

Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs to think about this

2016-11-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The founders had inspired genius. (most would argue divinely inspired genius) If I had to guess, There were probably 2 million votes in LA county that were not legal votes (illegal alien, double votes, etc) Take those away and maybe DJT won LA county. Wouldn't that be a trip! Floyd

Re: [MBZ] Test Refrigerant

2016-11-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Commercial grade propane. It's the highest common everyday grade (refrigerant grade R-290 isn't that common) In most states not named California, HD5 is the only grade that's legal for sale as home heating propane. Mitch. > On November 27, 2016 at 11:07 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] Test Refrigerant

2016-11-27 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
What is "HD5"? --FT On 11/27/16 10:49 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: That's the advantage of Cathey Special Blend. If it leaks, just add propane until the pressures are good again. BTW, I was looking at Linde Gas this morning, and they claimed their R290 was 97.5% propane. Any reason

Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs to think about this

2016-11-27 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
This is an interesting map that shows geographic distribution of the vote winners by county: http://i0.wp.com/metrocosm.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/election-2016-county-map.png?w=600 The article with it is somewhat interesting but seems to have a bit of bias:

Re: [MBZ] I want

2016-11-27 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Suicide doors are da bomb --FT On 11/27/16 8:38 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On November 27, 2016 at 8:23 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-lincoln-continental-2/#comment-1296501 “Knowledge is good” Great minds think

Re: [MBZ] Test Refrigerant

2016-11-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
That's the advantage of Cathey Special Blend. If it leaks, just add propane until the pressures are good again. BTW, I was looking at Linde Gas this morning, and they claimed their R290 was 97.5% propane. Any reason why I should pay dollars per pound for 97% refrigerant grade when I get pounds

Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

2016-11-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
If anybody doesn't believe what Curley said about the Dems encouraging illegal voting...maybe they'll believe what Obama had to say on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfgEvgVC6Qs > On November 27, 2016 at 9:39 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > Trump

Re: [MBZ] Test Refrigerant

2016-11-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I have tried this and duracool and I just do not like the blends. If you have any sort of leak at all the different elements leak at different rates which changes the mix and it does not cool. You can't simply top it up you have to discharge and start all over. You may not have had a leak leak

Re: [MBZ] Test Refrigerant

2016-11-27 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
I have also used it with excellent results! When the compressor blew on the 123 (totally unrelated to the ES-12) the mech used good AC parts from a recently wrecked 300CD and filled with R-12. That was in 2013, and I have not had to charge since. I had some cans left over, so Dimitri and I

Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

2016-11-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
That is a good though Curt. Trump won the electoral college. Game over. Trump won if you only take out the illegal aliens who are ineligible to vote, but who voted anyway at the encouragement of the (J) party. They know there is no punishment for illegal activities by illegal aliens in

Re: [MBZ] Test Refrigerant

2016-11-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’ve used the Industrial 12a-6 in my W126 and it did a great job. My only complaint was having to buy a case of the stuff as it was far cheaper than just buying a few cans. Dan > On Nov 27, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes > wrote: > > Hopefully this isn’t

Re: [MBZ] Test Refrigerant

2016-11-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
What we're talking about here is Jim Cathey's homemade ES-12a, so you're right on topic. I think Kaleb used to buy ES until he got some cylinders of R-12. Mitch. > On November 27, 2016 at 8:44 AM Jon Agne via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Hopefully this isn’t too far OT, but

Re: [MBZ] Test Refrigerant

2016-11-27 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Hopefully this isn’t too far OT, but has anyone here ever tried Envirosafe products? http://www.es-refrigerants.com/products/w/id/14/t/refrigerant Jon > On Nov 26, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > I don't pre-mix. You want ISO-butane. Sold as

Re: [MBZ] I want

2016-11-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On November 27, 2016 at 8:23 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-lincoln-continental-2/#comment-1296501 > > “Knowledge is good” Great minds think alike. When I saw that (although it's not a 1964), my first thought was:

[MBZ] I want

2016-11-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-lincoln-continental-2/#comment-1296501 “Knowledge is good” Dan “The Stork” ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

2016-11-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I was wondering if the sour grapes committee really checked how many dead people voted in Illinois if Trump might get the popular vote too... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 11:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: A few stolen