Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

2017-01-29 Thread clay via Mercedes
I was reading a book by Janet Asimov. She posited that teleportation was doable, but it required a receiver be transported to the end of the line. In effect that would be the transportation of that entangled particle to the place you want to go. > On Jan 29, 2017, at 10:17 PM,

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - Re: physix problemz

2017-01-29 Thread clay via Mercedes
I know that Next Gen episode. Scotty is trapped in a Dyson Sphere. So, as it relates to my conundrum, it would not be like Kirk and Spock going back to save the Whales, or Picard and NCC 1701 E going back to save Zephram Cochran from the Borg.I would have to be entangled on a quantum level

[MBZ] Another nail in the WVO Coffin

2017-01-29 Thread clay via Mercedes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyFXUYN_1QU=youtu.be This is why there are so few working Diesels on the roads anymore clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei retired models- 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery

Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

2017-01-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Yes, ditto. Last time I asked about something the reply was "you wouldn't understand." I wanted to say, "Well, then, you don't explain well." But I didn't... archer75--- via Mercedes January 30, 2017 at 12:17 AM It would. Why don't you ask him how soon he

Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

2017-01-29 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
It would. Why don't you ask him how soon he thinks we will be teletransporting people to another planet? Problem I've had trying to talk to physicists is that they can't seem to carry on a conversation without quoting complex math. Gerry Curley

Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

2017-01-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Interesting! One of my friends from college is a high level physicist at Stanford. It would be fun to talk about this! archer75--- via Mercedes January 29, 2017 at 11:33 PM Quantum entanglement is of considerable interest in physics nowadays; as well as

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - Re: physix problemz

2017-01-29 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Quantum entanglement is of considerable interest in physics nowadays; as well as quantum teleportation theories which are part of it: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Quantum Entanglement Could Stretch Across Time In the weird world of quantum physics, two linked

Re: [MBZ] one for Kyle

2017-01-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Isn't he domiciled in FL somewhere? On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I have seen a couple of those when I was first researching MB's. I will do > a more through review when I am back at work in a week! > > Kyle > > On Jan 29, 2017 2:23

Re: [MBZ] Window Sealant?

2017-01-29 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Yes, but my question was about cleaning it from a used windshield. Haven't gotten to asking about installation yet, but thanks for the part number for the sealant. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 29, 2017 5:56:06 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

2017-01-29 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
...or the atmosphere is cooling and the earth is shrinking. Your perception has no fixed point of reference. Therefore, the theory that the planet is warming cannot be demonstrated and/or proven. It is much like Einstein on his constantly accellerating train which is approaching the speed of

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Oh it's at least 2 feet off the ground for sure. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 29, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > The sill plate should be significantly (maybe 12+ inches) higher than the > outside grade. If so, I don't think wicking is an

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-29 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
The sill plate should be significantly (maybe 12+ inches) higher than the outside grade. If so, I don't think wicking is an issue. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - Re: physix problemz

2017-01-29 Thread clay via Mercedes
Climate change or the wizards? I know there is a bunch of top level science knowledge on this list, and I want to know what the heck would really happen with teleportation. It seems like the movies just bypass the reality of what takes place and … Poof!, you get Scotty to beam you up.

Re: [MBZ] W126 Fun

2017-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I thought about that when I heard the nasty noises it was making last night. I can have the door panel off in about five minutes, and I like the idea of being able to take the check strap out and inspect it while re-lubricating it. -D > On Jan 29, 2017, at 7:22 PM, clay via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT: Saturday Projects

2017-01-29 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
WX was pretty nice here yesterday in north central NC; I think I like global warming. So I mounted the inside and outside units for the split mini heat pump for my workshop/barn. I decided to wait and hire a HVAC pro for the final hookup rather than buying a proper flare tool and replacing

Re: [MBZ] W126 Fun

2017-01-29 Thread clay via Mercedes
Can you use a syringe/hose set up so you do not need to remove door panels? clay > On Jan 29, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Went over to spend the night at the mother in law’s for her birthday. I > drove to the birthday dinner, and when

Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

2017-01-29 Thread clay via Mercedes
But the same thing has been going on for millennia. Were it not, then I would be living under two miles of ice. Who made the last ice age go away? I am suspecting it is alien invaders who teleported down to inspect this big ice ball planet. Their careless use of transporters caused the

Re: [MBZ] 3m yellow

2017-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Then you need the foam double sided tape. Advance Auto carries it in the stores, and the roll will last forever. http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/3m-super-strength-molding-tape-1-2-x-15-ft-03614/7100055-P?searchTerm=tape -D > On Jan 29, 2017, at 6:09 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] 3m yellow

2017-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I need to stick a trunk badge back on a car Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 29, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > No. > > The yellow is for weatherstripping. > > What do you want it for? That’s what dictates which one to get. > > 8088 is the light

Re: [MBZ] 3m yellow

2017-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
No. The yellow is for weatherstripping. What do you want it for? That’s what dictates which one to get. 8088 is the light duty stuff, 8089 heavier, 8090 heaviest. That’s the spray contact cement such as one would use for interior panels, hood pads, etc. -D > On Jan 29, 2017, at 5:58 PM,

[MBZ] 3m yellow

2017-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
What is the yellow 3m adhesive for trim and stuff? I need to buy some but can't remember which was the right one. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

[MBZ] Window Sealant?

2017-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Max, Was it you or someone else asking about windshield sealant? (Scheibendichtmittel) The proper Mercedes part is 001 989 31 20 and it comes in a caulking tube with a removable nozzle that is designed to get into the grooves on the seals, or to lay a flat bead. I just bought some to do the

Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

2017-01-29 Thread MG via Mercedes
Aha. Looks like I remembered backwards. Not too uncommon. Manfred Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: That flat one is the updated version. The round multiple piece one is the old version. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2017, at 7:19 AM, MG via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

2017-01-29 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Mitch wrote: > 80 year old Schwinn? Wow. 1938 near as I can tell from web pictures and Sheldon Brown, the okiebenz of bicycles in Boston, RIP tin-man ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

[MBZ] ADMIN - Re: physix problemz

2017-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Just for clarification, subject matter like this that can be construed as political, so it is not considered acceptable here. Let’s keep it on cars and related subjects. If you’re unsure about a topic, run it by Kaleb or myself and we’ll let you know. Thank you, -D/ListMom > On Jan 29,

Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

2017-01-29 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On January 29, 2017 at 3:43 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes > wrote: > possible? and riding my 80-year-old Schwinn bicycle as much as > possible for purposes of commerce? 80 year old Schwinn? Wow. My Frejus probably isn't 50 yet. And I haven't ridden it in ten years. I

Re: [MBZ] Why we all need dash cameras...

2017-01-29 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Both videos = nice! but too bad. Theory... unprovable but... All drivers become demon possessed when they get behind the wheel of their car. tin-man ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

2017-01-29 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: > You don't need "theories" - just look at the data. The planet IS warming > and sea levels are rising. Is that political? i.e. disallowed at okiebenz? Okay, so... not political - we buy that. What can be accomplished? Am I doing sufficient against what IS by driving cars that

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

2017-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Sure is. About 1600 miles round trip. It was flawless the whole way there and back other than having no AC and it was awful hot on the return trip. The check engine light came on the day after we go back... -Curt From: Mitch Haley To: Curt Raymond

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

2017-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Also it averaged 48mpg over those 1500 miles (3 states and one Canadian province) while loaded heavy and running fast. -Curt From: Curt Raymond To: Mitch Haley ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Sunday, January 29,

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

2017-01-29 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
That's the one you drove here in Charlotte, right? Mitch. > On January 29, 2017 at 1:49 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Well I don't know what he's upset about, the Jetta is one of my favorite > cars. Its small, quick and frugal to operate. I realized

Re: [MBZ] one for Kyle

2017-01-29 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
I have seen a couple of those when I was first researching MB's. I will do a more through review when I am back at work in a week! Kyle On Jan 29, 2017 2:23 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > Better yet, just go to Pierre’s YouTube channel at: > >

Re: [MBZ] one for Kyle

2017-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Better yet, just go to Pierre’s YouTube channel at: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDTOh7Fk-QSSpi24UJIcs5A/featured -D > On Jan 29, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Good! If you look on the thomaspolk website, he as a whole bunch of movies

Re: [MBZ] one for Kyle

2017-01-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Good! If you look on the thomaspolk website, he as a whole bunch of movies of Pierre and MB cars. Kyle Arola via Mercedes January 29, 2017 at 1:04 PM Awesome thanks! Kyle On Jan 29, 2017 2:01 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes"

Re: [MBZ] one for Kyle

2017-01-29 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
Awesome thanks! Kyle On Jan 29, 2017 2:01 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" wrote: > If you didn't already find it: > > http://www.thomaspolk.net/mercedes-benz/2015/12/4/new-video > > Removing 123 bumpers > > ___ >

[MBZ] one for Kyle

2017-01-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
If you didn't already find it: http://www.thomaspolk.net/mercedes-benz/2015/12/4/new-video Removing 123 bumpers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] W126 Fun

2017-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Crab crab it was 40F yesterday when I replaced the alternator and crawled around on the icy ground. We've barely seen the sun for 2 weeks. I wouldn't mind if it snow but we keep sliding back and forth between the mid 20s and the low 50s with rain and snow showers. Go home mother nature, you're

Re: [MBZ] W126 Fun

2017-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It's nice a sunny here and I have been in a lazy funk as of late and have not felt like working out in the shop. As a result nothing has been done in a while. I was going to swap out some ballasts in 3 8ft fixtures out there but can find any wire nuts so I'm fixing to head to town to get some.

[MBZ] W126 Fun

2017-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Went over to spend the night at the mother in law’s for her birthday. I drove to the birthday dinner, and when loading everyone up noticed the right rear door was making the creaky/popping sounds of a dry door check. It’s the original one from what I can see, so I guess I’ll have to pull the

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

2017-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Well I don't know what he's upset about, the Jetta is one of my favorite cars. Its small, quick and frugal to operate. I realized yesterday that I've put around 45,000 miles on it, not bad for a rusty $1500 car. Spent some time crawling around under it yesterday while the oil was draining. The

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

2017-01-29 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
> On January 28, 2017 5:11:28 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > >I don't remember if I mentioned it but the alternator quit in my '98 > >Jetta on the way home from work Wednesday.Today I picked up and > >installed a used one, PITA job, the engine bay is tight

Re: [MBZ] Why we all need dash cameras...

2017-01-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It felt SO good to see that SOB get his comeuppance. On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 12:12 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Or this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSE3fkeHAmo > Closer to home. Exit 146 on US41/I-41 in WI (Appleton, WI) > >

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - No Political Topics

2017-01-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Thanks, Dan. This is like turning on the lights and startling the cockroaches. On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dan wrote: > > Enough. > > Me? - did I do dat? > tin-man > > ___ >

Re: [MBZ] FWIW

2017-01-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Wonder why Saudi Arabia isn't on the list. Didn't they support the 9/11 highjackers? On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Fred wrote: > > I could just cry. > > If the house is on fire, we should do something... > Probably not a mere

Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

2017-01-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You don't need "theories" - just look at the data. The planet IS warming and sea levels are rising. On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Bartender, I'll have what he's drinking! > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 >

Re: [MBZ] Need ideas for cleaning urethane sealant from windshield

2017-01-29 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Thanks Grant, that's good to know and probably the best course of action. - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:07 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Couple of times I've had used glass installed by a glass shop, the techs > just cut back the sealant

Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

2017-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, I thought it was strange, too. I figured this out when I went looking for the flat tube for the 300D. My parts guy traced it down and also reminded me of when I bought one for the 300SD back in 1997 (is this guy good, or what???) Looks like Meyle is the only one making them now in the

Re: [MBZ] Usinger elves Wuz: Alternator question

2017-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
M. My bi-monthly care package from Bernie’s Fine Meats is due next week. I want it NOW! Have seen the Usinger’s elves on more than one occasion. Wonderful place to visit. Follow up with a helping of frozen custard. Yum. -D > On Jan 28, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

2017-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It's strange they would update it for 126 but not 123 since it's the same engine with the same problems. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 29, 2017, at 10:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > The flat one was designed to limit the amount of oil mist/vapor that could

Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

2017-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The flat one was designed to limit the amount of oil mist/vapor that could get to the air cleaner, too. There are little baffles inside of it for this. From what I can determine it was never spec’ed out for the OM617 on the W123, but it was on the OM617 on the W126 chassis’ cars. I got one

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Certainly. Look up “capillary action”. But understand that water is probably puddling in that corner as well, despite it draining away after maybe a short time. Intrusion around the window openings is certainly a possibility, too. > On Jan 29, 2017, at 11:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
One other thing also. From doing some research online I will be back over there today and I am going to make sure the brick actually has weep holes like it should, which is supposed to drain any water out from behind the bring that may get in rather than it finding its way out to other spots.

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So let me ask this. If water is standing in that low spot up against the foundation can water "wick" upward along the inside of the stem wall to the flooring area? We also seem to have a water intrusion issue at the window of one of the bedrooms on the front of the house because as I was

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

2017-01-29 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
Nope. Pretty sure I either screwed up the seal or the tension spring popped off or it is just a bad one. I just did the axles so pretty sure I screwed up the drivers side. Will be ordering a new one and repairing it next week. Bummer. Kyle On Jan 29, 2017 8:42 AM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes"

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-29 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I would look at two things regarding the constructIon of the house as to the moisture: 1.) The gutter in the corner is not configured properly. There should be some sort of "splash guard" on the outside edge of the gutter to prevent water from washing over the side. What's happening is that

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-29 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Automotive uses: Carbide thin kerf blade makes a great panel cutter for removing damaged areas. It's possible to make plunge cuts in center of a panel.. invent other applications I haven't thought of. Gasket scraper: Grind the teeth off of a straight blade [re-purpose one thats gone dull] and

Re: [MBZ] Need ideas for cleaning urethane sealant from windshield

2017-01-29 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Couple of times I've had used glass installed by a glass shop, the techs just cut back the sealant with razor knife and left about 1/4 inch of sealant on the surface. They then bedded the used glass in new sealant, just like it was "new glass". The old sealant had good contact with the glass, no

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

2017-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Used alternator yes. I paid I think $42 with tax and a $5 core charge which I think is forfeit since I had to rip the back cover of the old one to shreds to get to look at the voltage regulator. The screws that hold the cover broke off but stayed wedged in the plastic which being almost 20

Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

2017-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That flat one is the updated version. The round multiple piece one is the old version. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 29, 2017, at 7:19 AM, MG via Mercedes wrote: > > Just didn't want you to think it wouldn't fit. Though I don't know why they > decided to switch to the

Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I have seen these but never gave them a thought. Do they have any automotive uses also? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 28, 2017, at 11:46 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kaleb, > That is the saw I had in mind.. I bought one, liked it so much, I bought a > second

Re: [MBZ] Farewell to Wilton's 300D

2017-01-29 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Well we're damn glad you were in a Benz that gave it's last full measure for you! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 28, 2017 10:35:59 PM EST, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: >Makes me sad all over again. > >Wilton > >--

[MBZ] Need ideas for cleaning urethane sealant from windshield

2017-01-29 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Rich and I removed this windshield yesterday, plan is to install in my '95 sedan. I'd like to clean off the sticky sealant, but the trick will be not damaging the black paint underneath (perimeter of the inside of the glass). Any ideas for a product or method? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

2017-01-29 Thread MG via Mercedes
Not that I know of. Last I knew (yesterday) Kyle was hard at work replacing the rear wheel bearings. Manfred Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Is there a new thread about Kyle's leaking diff? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

2017-01-29 Thread MG via Mercedes
From the ones I've seen no, since those don't seem to go into the top of the air cleaner. Even if the hose goes from the valve cover to the top of the air cleaner it would still probably not work since the 616 is shorter so the distance will be shorter. Manfred Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

2017-01-29 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Bravo on the repair! Used alternator, right? Cost? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 28, 2017 5:11:28 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >I don't remember if I mentioned it but the alternator quit in my '98 >Jetta on the way home from work

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

2017-01-29 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Is there a new thread about Kyle's leaking diff? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 28, 2017 5:21:58 PM EST, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote: > >Now if my rear diff leak settles out We can both be happy! Hahaha! > >Kyle > >

Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

2017-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
*Snort* English undercoat... Angie's Golf got a good dose of that when I bent the oil pan. The tow dolly did too now that I think of it. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote: Alles. When the 300TD came

Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

2017-01-29 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Alles. When the 300TD came into my possession ( in Punta Gorda ), the original breather elbow was split and the engine compartment was full of english undercoat. The floppy snake breather hose with the ribbed insides fixed the problem and still works today. YMMV Fred Moir. Lynn MA. Diesel

Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

2017-01-29 Thread MG via Mercedes
Just didn't want you to think it wouldn't fit. Though I don't know why they decided to switch to the newer round version on the 123 and stayed with the flat thing on the SD. At first that flat one was used on all of them or so I have found other people to say. Haven't done any research of my

Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

2017-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Would one of those work on a 616? I found that breather apparatus troublesome and prone to leaks. -Curt From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes To: "mercedes@okiebenz com" Cc: Karl Wittnebel Sent: Saturday, January 28,