Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
It should be BenzHenge - like this, but with only MBs: http://carhenge.com/ On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I'm thinking benz ranch ala Cadillac ranch > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 21, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Dan Penoff via

Re: [MBZ] This is what happens when you post ads to Craigslist right before going into a heroin induced coma

2017-02-21 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
The air blows cold... through the windows... And It will buff right out... Comes with crack pipe... On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 9:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Misplaced decimal point -should be offered at $45.00 > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:28 PM,

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: > > > > At last count you have about 20 vehicles, plus or minus. How do you do > > > it and lead a normal family life? How do I curtail my envy? ~~~ Elbow grease. I once asked a friend, who was a busy optometrist with his

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Thanks. If I took notes anywhere near as good as you, I'd have remembered that for sure I useta be able to remember all this stuff. To much garbage in during the most recent 2 decades. Jim Cathey via Mercedes February 21, 2017 at 10:11 PM The front/back

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Every time I've had a window that would only go one way, noise in only one direction, it has been a dirty switch problem. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
The front/back switches are in series. If _either_ switch is bad, the window won't work in both directions. Swap to test, disassemble to clean, etc. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] This is what happens when you post ads to Craigslist right before going into a heroin induced coma

2017-02-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Misplaced decimal point -should be offered at $45.00 On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yep > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 21, 2017, at 9:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Smoked a

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Hey Larry - sorry to hear about your discomfort. Did the surgery improve anything at all or make things worse? On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I think each switch is unique to that position. I bought what was > supposed to be a

Re: [MBZ] This is what happens when you post ads to Craigslist right before going into a heroin induced coma

2017-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yep Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2017, at 9:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Smoked a speedball and mainlined some hash > > --FT > > >> On 2/21/17 9:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> >> 300D Mercedes >>

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I'm thinking benz ranch ala Cadillac ranch Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > He needs to do a “Mercedeshenge” like they used of have near me with the > Airstream trailers. > >

Re: [MBZ] This is what happens when you post ads to Craigslist right before going into a heroin induced coma

2017-02-21 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Smoked a speedball and mainlined some hash --FT On 2/21/17 9:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: 300D Mercedes http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/6011146142.html via cPro for Craigslist iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Ranch Rick  Sent from an outdated smartphone with more computing power than the original space shuttle   Original Message   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 8:59 PM To: Mercedes List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Dan

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
He needs to do a “Mercedeshenge” like they used of have near me with the Airstream trailers. http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/airstream-ranch They just tore this down a coupe of weeks ago. Bummer. -D > On Feb 21, 2017, at 9:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >

[MBZ] This is what happens when you post ads to Craigslist right before going into a heroin induced coma

2017-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
300D Mercedes http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/6011146142.html via cPro for Craigslist iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yes Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2017, at 8:16 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > I thought his field full of old MBs and packrats WAS the monument... > >> Max Dillon via Mercedes >> February 21, 2017 at 7:40 PM >> All hail

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I thought his field full of old MBs and packrats WAS the monument... Max Dillon via Mercedes February 21, 2017 at 7:40 PM All hail Marshall! Kaleb was supposed to erect a statute in his honor, maybe that's why his old house is cursed.

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
All hail Marshall! Kaleb was supposed to erect a statute in his honor, maybe that's why his old house is cursed. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On February 21, 2017 8:18:56 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >Got the car exterior sorted. Clay bar,

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Got the car exterior sorted. Clay bar, wash, polished, waxed. Even replaced the old cracked antenna grommet with a new MB one. Everything back together except the 300SEL badge, which I'll deal with tomorrow. Just finished replacing all of the crappy aluminum fuses with copper. Another

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
I think each switch is unique to that position. I bought what was supposed to be a drivers window switch but the pins were not correct so I got one from the dealer/ . Ah, Don told me the fronts will not interchange with the rears so I know what I will do - swap console switches side to side

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Try removing the switch and applying battery voltage to the wires directly. A bad switch can keep either from working. You may have to tap on the motor, too. A broken wire in the door is also a possibility, in which case voltage to the plug at the switch in the door will work -- I have one

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
What Max said. IIRC, the if the console switch is bad, the door switch will not work. The left and right console switches are interchangeable (as are the door switches) - just swap them and see if that fixes the issue. On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Master switch has the lockout button, so they may not swap in/out. If the PW switches are the same as a 123 I can send/lend him one of my spares. On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I don't remember for sure if they swap front to back or

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I don't remember for sure if they swap front to back or side to side, I think front to back, but they can be swapped around to trouble-shoot. - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 4:25 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > What Max said. IIRC, the if the

Re: [MBZ] May Be Diesel?

2017-02-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Very droll. On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Put it back into the ocean, let it finish becoming a reef? > > - > Max > Charleston SC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list

Re: [MBZ] May Be Diesel?

2017-02-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Put it back into the ocean, let it finish becoming a reef? - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
As I think about it, either the switch is bad or the motor has died. If the motor was working I'd hear it turning as I push the buttons. As it is I hear complete silence except for a small bump as I push the switch in the down direction. I'll get a better look at it shortly, probably in a

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Yeah, that's the plan as soon as it gets home. BTW, Andrew's comment about photos is a good idea - might help others better visualize how the window lift operates. I'll wait to order parts - LarryT On 02/21/2017 1:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: On the ones with cable the nylon

Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

2017-02-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Sounds to me like that death trap is going down hill fast, time to dump it and get out before it sucks you dry. I'll give you $1000. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
When I suspected a bad switch in The White Whale (124.193 aka 300TD) I simply moved switches around and verified the issue, rolled the window up and left the working switch in the spot that I needed it most until I had time to visit the knackers and harvest a replacement. - Max

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Yeah, if I guess correctly they are pretty much the same as the 123/126 switches -- pop them out of the console, take off the connectors, put the switch in a baggie and pop them apart (there are some snap kind of tabs holding them together). There are 4 bits if I recall -- the rocker, a

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Larry, I'm a frugal guy, in your shoes I'd start with the console switch (swap switches around to see if the problem follows the switch). If the switch swapping doesn't resolve the problem, then you'll need to remove the door panel / liner and see what's going on. On my '95 sedan, both rear

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I think so. On 124 by far most of the problems were the switch. I know I had to change one rear regulator. 123 1nd 125, I have changed regulators, motors and switches, and one slide. I think I changed another slide many years ago. For the 110, I know I changed a lot of slides and at least

Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD

2017-02-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Mao speaks the truth in some respects. I work to support my family and hobby. I gave up chasing the Almighty Dollar almost 20 years ago when I was running myself to death and hardly ever home with my wife and kids. That’s all time I’l never get back, and I don’t really feel like I have much

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Hey Floyd, Just to be clear, you're talking about the switches and not the regulators, right? Thanks, LarryT 91 300D On 02/21/2017 3:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: Just take them apart (in a plastic baggie to contain the flying sprHeyings) and clean them, takes but a few

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
M103. Thanks for the offer, but don’t worry about it. I just bought four Mann filters on closeout from Rock Auto last night for $2.50/each. Dealer filter only costs me $6.00. -D > On Feb 21, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Is that a M103

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Is that a M103 or M104? Either way, I have a filter for you. Dan Penoff via Mercedes February 21, 2017 at 1:47 PM Clay bar and badge removal complete. 300SEL badge is soaking with 3M Adhesive remover which will make the tape come right off in a few minutes.

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Just take them apart (in a plastic baggie to contain the flying springs) and clean them, takes but a few minutes and you will be amazed at the schmutz in them. Little grease and yer good ta go. --FT On 2/21/17 3:24 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: That's what I initially thought. But I

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thanks Kaleb! BTW, did you see my question about the interior parts? On 02/21/2017 2:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: The rears on the 124 are cable. If the window no longer goes up or down you replace the regulator. I think the fronts are cable too, pretty sure they are. The

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
That's what I initially thought. But I get the same thing from both switches. If the console switch is dirty, will that cause the door switch to fail to operate also? Replacing a switch is obviously a lot easier to replace than anything else. ;-) Thanks Larry On 02/21/2017 3:16 PM,

Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD

2017-02-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Patience, Grasshopper... Doris said it 50+ years ago. https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/que-sera-sera/id192699553?i=192700744 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes February 21, 2017 at 2:20 PM Back to the subject at hand, so far the guy with the car has not called to

Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD

2017-02-21 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Back to the subject at hand, so far the guy with the car has not called to accept my offer, so maybe my wallet remains safe and my addiction will not be fed. -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
That sounds more like the switch is bad. Larry Turner via Mercedes February 21, 2017 at 11:50 AM I don't hear anything when I push either button. Let me explain that better - when I push the button to raise the glass I hear nothing. When I push either button

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Easy! go out and buy $500 MB until your yard is full, then start to stack em up! Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes February 21, 2017 at 1:00 PM How do I curtail my envy? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
He can afford six (6) Mercedes AND b**r as well. He is not one of Us. On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Clay bar and badge removal complete. 300SEL badge is soaking with 3M > Adhesive remover which will make the tape come right off in a

[MBZ] Zose Cherman B*st*rds

2017-02-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
GERMANYStuttgart bans older diesel carsPublished: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 Older diesel cars will be banned from driving in Stuttgart, Germany, next year in an attempt to reduce pollution levels. Stuttgart regularly experiences fine particulate levels above safe levels, partly due to its

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Clay bar and badge removal complete. 300SEL badge is soaking with 3M Adhesive remover which will make the tape come right off in a few minutes. Time for a cold beverage and then out for a wash prior to polishing. It’s definitely going to need polish, as there are some water marks and other

Re: [MBZ] May Be Diesel?

2017-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I think its the car selling it self "Me be diesel". Obviously its got grammar issues but how surprised would you be considering its idiot owner. -Curt From: Daniel Penoff via Mercedes To: Mercedes List Cc: Daniel Penoff

Re: [MBZ] May Be Diesel?

2017-02-21 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Rust Braun and Algae Gruen, a nice color combo! --FT On 2/21/17 1:38 PM, Daniel Penoff via Mercedes wrote: https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/6013140725.html -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Life is sometimes fair in the Real America --FT On 2/21/17 2:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The car is beautiful. Life simply is not fair. On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Current count is six. My kids are grown, I

Re: [MBZ] Cheap Mercedes from "Boat Angel Ministry"

2017-02-21 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
$381 is about what a 20yo cheep class is worth --FT On 2/20/17 10:53 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote: This was too far away for me http://www.ebay.com/itm/351976279372?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
Fantastic! Next time I want to buy a Mercedes I am going to come to Tampa and have you go with me! kyle On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The car is beautiful. Life simply is not fair. > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Dan

Re: [MBZ] May Be Diesel?

2017-02-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Your profit margins will be paper thin if you deal with the likes of this group of bottom feeders. On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I'm going to have to start selling franchises > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 21, 2017, at

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The car is beautiful. Life simply is not fair. On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Current count is six. > > My kids are grown, I have lots of time on my hands. And for the most part > none of them take a great deal of my time. The cars,

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Current count is six. My kids are grown, I have lots of time on my hands. And for the most part none of them take a great deal of my time. The cars, that is. -D > On Feb 21, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > At last count you have about 20 vehicles,

Re: [MBZ] May Be Diesel?

2017-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I'm going to have to start selling franchises Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2017, at 1:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Maybe he will open an Okiebenz franchise for SW FL? > >> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >>

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The rears on the 124 are cable. If the window no longer goes up or down you replace the regulator. I think the fronts are cable too, pretty sure they are. The last car with real regulators was the 126. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] May Be Diesel?

2017-02-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Maybe he will open an Okiebenz franchise for SW FL? On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dan may go for it though. He is becoming more and more of a bottom feeder > by the day. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 21, 2017, at 12:59

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Drive up pictures are now live. See it in the unmolested state as it came from the seller: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/oygdelmh3jubz4y/AABkF5QmAdtg8ZSg5MJN5Ah0a?dl=0 It’s cooling off in the garage awaiting clay bar treatment. -D > On Feb 21, 2017, at 1:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] May Be Diesel?

2017-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Dan may go for it though. He is becoming more and more of a bottom feeder by the day. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > That trunk lip rust is very scary. > >> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yeah, and post the pictures. On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On the ones with cable the nylon pulley can break, rendering it useless,, > or the cable can come of the nylon pulley. > > You really have to get into the door to see what’s

Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
At last count you have about 20 vehicles, plus or minus. How do you do it and lead a normal family life? How do I curtail my envy? On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > 300SEL is in the driveway. Good drive home, nothing to report - yet. >

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
On the ones with cable the nylon pulley can break, rendering it useless,, or the cable can come of the nylon pulley. You really have to get into the door to see what’s going on. You’re going to have to open it up anyway. -D > On Feb 21, 2017, at 1:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] May Be Diesel?

2017-02-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
That trunk lip rust is very scary. On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Way way way too much money. Is that oil or something blowing out from > under and across the hood? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 21, 2017, at 12:38 PM,

Re: [MBZ] May Be Diesel?

2017-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Way way way too much money. Is that oil or something blowing out from under and across the hood? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Daniel Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/6013140725.html > > -D > >

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My experience with bad regulators is that they go bump bump when one or more teeth have broken off. Utter silence sounds like a different problem. Have you taken off the door panel - seen anything suspicious? Swapped out the master switch? On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Larry Turner via

[MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

2017-02-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
300SEL is in the driveway. Good drive home, nothing to report - yet. Going in the garage for a clay bar treatment and then a wash before a possible polish (if needed) and a wax. Pictures to follow. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

2017-02-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Got a look at it before we left to get the 300SEL. The little plastic thingy on the bottom is broken off. Thanks, Gerry! (I think you were the one that suggested this was the issue?) -D > On Feb 21, 2017, at 9:04 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > It’s dry and

[MBZ] May Be Diesel?

2017-02-21 Thread Daniel Penoff via Mercedes
https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/6013140725.html -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Max, what do youy think about the regulator? Would you replace the whole thing or parts? Also, if I only hear a soft bump when trying to lower the glass (and nothing when trying to raise the glass), does that indicate a regulator or the slider or cable? BTW, if I failed to mention it, the

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thanks Max, That's a very good price also. Now I need to decide if I want to roll the dice and get a new one on the way. I considered the possibility it may be jammed but this style doesn't lend itself to jamming I wouldn't think. I think the odds are pretty good that I need a new

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
I don't hear anything when I push either button. Let me explain that better - when I push the button to raise the glass I hear nothing. When I push either button to lower the glass I can her a soft bump. What does that tell us? LarryT On 02/21/2017 9:14 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Check One Off the Bucket List

2017-02-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Can't you simply remove the VC and strip it with common paint stripper from Home Depot? On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It doesn’t. It’s a sort of strange color, 199 - blue-black. No clear > coat, thank goodness, so it will clean up

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bullshit Course

2017-02-21 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Curley wrote: > The fact that this is needed indicates the complete collapse of the pubic > skool system and Merkun Kolledges and univerities. Let's look a bit further. There is more than merely skool systems. OkieBenz can suss this out - we are, after all, DoItYourself. Shall we begin? After

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Larry, that sounds like a regulator mechanical failure, which is probably either the plastic slider or the cable. I don't know what picture you're looking at, here's an eBay listing with a nice picture:

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
If you can hear the motor going up and down, then the plastic slider is off or the cable mechanism is toast. I've had both happen. Car-part.com if you need the mechanism. On 124, the door liner has to be pushed up. Rather than the button things as 123 and earlier doors, the 124 has a bunch

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Here's the part number for the W210 plastic slider, that you can use to repair your 124 slider: 2107200042 - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Meade Dillon wrote: > Larry, that sounds like a regulator mechanical failure, which is probably >

Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

2017-02-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It’s dry and there’s no lubricant on it, at least not in the way of grease. -D > On Feb 21, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > latch is gummed up with that white lithium crap. Real fix is to take it out > and take it apart and clean it, then

Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

2017-02-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
latch is gummed up with that white lithium crap. Real fix is to take it out and take it apart and clean it, then grease with molykote BR2. Practical fix is to spray the snot out of it with contact cleaner, brake cleaner, carb cleaner, etc. and work the snot out of it. Then spray in some

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Yes, the 124 rear doors use cables, front doors use the scissors / gear / sliding jaws. - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Max, does the W124 regulator use cables? I know the W140 does, but I > thought

Re: [MBZ] Check One Off the Bucket List

2017-02-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It doesn’t. It’s a sort of strange color, 199 - blue-black. No clear coat, thank goodness, so it will clean up nicely. While I wait on parts to arrive I’ll take on the finish. I plan on starting in on it today when I get home and should be able to have it fairly well sorted by the end of the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bullshit Course

2017-02-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The fact that this is needed indicates the complete collapse of the pubic skool system and Merkun Kolledges and univerities. But as indicated by the discussions of "how to lie with statistics" on this forum, it is badly needed. No hoya zones are needed more than "safe rooms" archer75---

Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

2017-02-21 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Save your bad strikers, and if I come up with a fix I'll post it. The new ones I've bought don't last very long. ~ > Yeah, my googling suggests that the little plastic piece on the bottom of the > strike is either worn or broken off. I haven’t

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thanks Max! Would a dirty console switch prevent the door switch working? BTW, I can hear the motor (?) bump quietly when I push the switches up/down - It is more easily heard when pushing in the down direction. I looked at replacement motors on BuyEuroparts.com and it doesn't look like a

Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
I had that problem on my W123 and found debris was in the female latch component in the door frame. IOW, the door has a Pin and the frame as a place for the pin to fit. I cleaned it and the door worked grear. LarryT On 02/21/2017 7:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: The driver’s door

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Dan, Same time for me. After 45+ years of getting up at 5 I doubt I could sleep later if I wanted ! Yep, it's a 91 300D 2.5T W124 - WDB.EB28D1MB.36XXX Eng is a 602-962 I'd appreciate the pointers. I removed the door cards on my W123 many times but this looks different. I removed the

Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

2017-02-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, my googling suggests that the little plastic piece on the bottom of the strike is either worn or broken off. I haven’t looked at it closely but will later this morning. The part is NLA from Mercedes so I ordered one from Amazon that’s made by Meyle. Not ideal, but they appear to be the

Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

2017-02-21 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 07:16:53 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > The driver’s door on my 350SDL has been having a hard time latching - that > is, I have to slam it to get it to close completely. > > This just started a few days ago, and there’s nothing that’s happened

[MBZ] W126 Door Latch

2017-02-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The driver’s door on my 350SDL has been having a hard time latching - that is, I have to slam it to get it to close completely. This just started a few days ago, and there’s nothing that’s happened to suggest something is broken. In all honesty, I’ve never had an issue with a door latch on a

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Max, does the W124 regulator use cables? I know the W140 does, but I thought everything before that was just the “scissors” arrangement with the sliding jaws? It’s been a while since I’ve been in the door of a W124, if that’s what we’re talking about. Dan > On Feb 21, 2017, at 6:29 AM, Max

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Larry, no ground in the door, just two wires. Try applying power both ways. There are mechanical reasons this could happen. Commonly a plastic slider fails. A cable and pulleys are also involved, cable could part. Make sure you don't have a dirty switch in the center console! -- Max Dillon

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Meh. I’ve been up since 5:00, my normal wake up time. This is on a W124? Let me know and I can give you some pointers about removing the door panel - it’s not difficult. Dan > On Feb 21, 2017, at 6:13 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > Hit send before I

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Hit send before I wanted - Thanks Dan - I will pull the door panel as you suggest. I have never had the rear door panels off - I have no idea what it looks like under them - so I assume there will be a bolt with the ground wire and a connection where the power is connected? Thanks again -

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Yep, the fuse for the rear windows is in the H position and I rolled it and looked for any damage to the fuse. On 02/21/2017 5:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I assume you checked the fuses, of course? Since it went down under power I would question your diagnosis. First thing I

[MBZ] Rear Window PDF

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
It's me again - from my index it looks like the window motors should be on a pdf numbered 67-39 but my WSM doesn't have anything close to that. Does anyone have a pdf showing the rear window motors for a 1991 W124? Tghanks LarryT ___

Re: [MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I assume you checked the fuses, of course? Since it went down under power I would question your diagnosis. First thing I would do after verifying fuses are good would be to pull the door panel and put B+ directly to the motor to see if it’s OK. That will also give you access to the regulator

[MBZ] Rear Window

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Hi Gang, I rolled the Left Rear Window down and now it won't go back up. The door switch will not move it and the console switch also fails to move it. I cannot get the motor to move the window Up as it's in the full down position. I am thinking either the motor is bad or