Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

2017-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
t;curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question That's the one you drove here in Charlotte, right? Mitch. > On January 29, 2017 at 1:49 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > <m

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2017-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Sunday, January 29, 2017 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question Sure is. About 1600 miles round trip. It was flawless the whole way there and back other than having no AC and it was awful hot on the return trip. The check engine light came on the day after we go back... -Curt

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2017-01-29 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
That's the one you drove here in Charlotte, right? Mitch. > On January 29, 2017 at 1:49 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Well I don't know what he's upset about, the Jetta is one of my favorite > cars. Its small, quick and frugal to operate. I realized

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2017-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com" <arche...@embarqmail.com> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question It's very likely that you have a German sprite, a

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2017-01-29 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
> On January 28, 2017 5:11:28 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > >I don't remember if I mentioned it but the alternator quit in my '98 > >Jetta on the way home from work Wednesday.Today I picked up and > >installed a used one, PITA job, the engine bay is tight

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2017-01-29 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
Nope. Pretty sure I either screwed up the seal or the tension spring popped off or it is just a bad one. I just did the axles so pretty sure I screwed up the drivers side. Will be ordering a new one and repairing it next week. Bummer. Kyle On Jan 29, 2017 8:42 AM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes"

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2017-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
s Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question Bravo on the repair! Used alternator, right? Cost? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 28, 2017 5:11:28 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <merce

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2017-01-29 Thread MG via Mercedes
Not that I know of. Last I knew (yesterday) Kyle was hard at work replacing the rear wheel bearings. Manfred Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Is there a new thread about Kyle's leaking diff? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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2017-01-29 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Bravo on the repair! Used alternator, right? Cost? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 28, 2017 5:11:28 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >I don't remember if I mentioned it but the alternator quit in my '98 >Jetta on the way home from work

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2017-01-29 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Is there a new thread about Kyle's leaking diff? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 28, 2017 5:21:58 PM EST, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote: > >Now if my rear diff leak settles out We can both be happy! Hahaha! > >Kyle > >

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2017-01-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I think this is the real reason. An alt does not need to be "flashed" like a generator. But I like the Bavarian Elf story better! Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Another possibility is that the brushes and commutator were a bit dirty and spinning it cleaned them up. Mitch.

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2017-01-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I never heard of a car alternator needing remagnetizing, but it seems to happen a lot with portable gensets that have sat for years. I'm guessing that a car alternator is battery excited and not subject to this problem, maybe Dan/Jim/Craig could chime in here. Another possibility is that the

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2017-01-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
It is easy! The bavarian elves got lost in the shipment, so it didn't work when first installed. By the time you needed to move it, the elves had been reunited with the alt, and went back to work on demand. (Ok, I have been thinking of the Usinger's elves and I am still laughing about

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2017-01-28 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
Probably a tired exciter circuit... You got it a little hot and bothered and all is good with her now... Happy for you! Now if my rear diff leak settles out We can both be happy! Hahaha! Kyle On Jan 28, 2017 5:11 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" wrote: > I don't

[MBZ] Alternator question

2017-01-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I don't remember if I mentioned it but the alternator quit in my '98 Jetta on the way home from work Wednesday.Today I picked up and installed a used one, PITA job, the engine bay is tight and I think the alternator was probably original at 279,000 miles. These have an interesting one way

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-04 Thread Gerry Archer
- Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 23:37:46 -0400 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote

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2013-09-04 Thread Gerry Archer
Gerry wrote: Can someone tell me where the wire from the buss to the battery connects to the positive battery cable so I can check it's continuity and clean the connection? Better - or more accurate - than measuring continuity is to measure voltage drop. After starting the engine (so the

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-04 Thread Curt Raymond
I was under the impression running an alternator with no battery was a great way to kill an alternator... -Curt Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 21:25:08 -0400 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

[MBZ] . Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-04 Thread Gerry Archer
- Original Message - From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com Yep, slipsies might introduce more questions than answers. Just make the 240D bare posts, and set up the jumpers. If you get 13.7 when the 300 D is running, then look at the battery in the 300D closer. You really

[MBZ] .. Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-04 Thread Gerry Archer
charging issue. From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D I do have heavy cables but won't be using them to start the 300D. I'll

[MBZ] ... Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-04 Thread Gerry Archer
on the battery for excitation of its field windings, and a battery with a high resistance cell will normally cause the alternator to not charge. From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator

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2013-09-04 Thread Gerry Archer
The (bad?) battery still starts the car, so I'll use it for starting. The jumpers will only carry the current from the alternator to the good battery and vice versa. From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com If you are saying you are going to use your jumper cables in between the 240 battery

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-04 Thread Gerry Archer
an alternator with no battery was a great way to kill an alternator... -Curt Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 21:25:08 -0400 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D Message-ID: 0D77DF0B9AD14B7289022D369A0AA372

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2013-09-04 Thread Michael Canfield
...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D Message-ID: **0D77DF0B9AD14B7289022D369A0AA3**72@PC466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I do have heavy cables but won't

Re: [MBZ] ... Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-04 Thread Craig
Gerry, We now have three NEW threads discussing your '83 300D alternator, one with the subject [MBZ] . Alternator question '83 300D one with the subject [MBZ] .. Alternator question '83 300D one with the subject [MBZ] ... Alternator question '83 300D That causes problems with people

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2013-09-04 Thread Richard Hattaway
: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D Mr. Hattaway, maybe you should not assume folks are stupid.  Been a mechanic over 25 years.  You try starting even a good starting Diesel with the average set of cables people use these days and a bad battery

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2013-09-04 Thread Michael Canfield
:12:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D Message-ID: 1378311128.87060.yahoomail...@web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mike

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2013-09-04 Thread Richard Hattaway
. From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D That is exactly it. Mike On Sep 4, 2013 1:08 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud

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2013-09-04 Thread Curt Raymond
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D Message-ID: 69E9FD2927A746AEA0EF2A7F6231CD49@PC466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;     reply-type=original The (bad?) battery still starts the car, so I'll use it for starting.  The jumpers will only

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-04 Thread Mike Esh
mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D That is exactly it. Mike On Sep 4, 2013 1:08 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think it was Please be accurate and thoughtful with your posts before making some

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2013-09-04 Thread Michael Canfield
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D That is exactly it. Mike On Sep 4, 2013 1:08 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think it was Please be accurate and thoughtful with your posts

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2013-09-04 Thread Michael Canfield
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D Mr. Hattaway, maybe you should not assume folks are stupid. Been a mechanic over 25 years. You try starting even a good starting Diesel with the average set of cables people use these days and a bad battery and you are going to burn up the cables

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-04 Thread Curt Raymond
mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D Message-ID:     1378311128.87060.yahoomail...@web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mike,  I don't assume someone is stupid.? If you re-read your comment, the one I reacted to, you will find

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2013-09-04 Thread Michael Canfield
Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D If you are saying you are going to use your jumper cables in between the 240 battery and the 300 cables and starter yhen you

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-04 Thread Curt Raymond
...@rocketmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D Message-ID:     1378317251.51648.yahoomail...@web161003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Has anyone ever seen a fire from jumper cables in anything other than

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-04 Thread Gary Hurst
mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D That is exactly it. Mike On Sep 4, 2013 1:08 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think it was Please be accurate and thoughtful with your posts before making some

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2013-09-03 Thread Gerry Archer
Thanks to Rick, Richard, and Loren for your advice; and to Fred for the connector which arrived in good order. Going to wire it up and try it again. If the connector wasn't the problem, will put a good regulator in and try it. If that doesn't work, will chuck the 3 used alternators in the

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2013-09-03 Thread Frederick Moir
] Alternator question '83 300D I would be on top of getting that battery exchanged first.  If only one cell boiled dry it may be defective and damaging regulators somehow Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com

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2013-09-03 Thread Michael Canfield
I would be on top of getting that battery exchanged first. If only one cell boiled dry it may be defective and damaging regulators somehow Mike On Sep 3, 2013 10:29 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Thanks to Rick, Richard, and Loren for your advice; and to Fred for the

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2013-09-03 Thread Richard Hattaway
up cables, etc.  Someone here might think you know what you're talking about. From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

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2013-09-03 Thread Richard Hattaway
: From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D Thanks to Rick, Richard, and Loren for your advice; and to Fred for the connector which arrived

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-03 Thread Curt Raymond
from somebody else and waited around when the second set was warm too the car started... -Curt Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 14:04:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D Message-ID

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2013-09-03 Thread Gerry Archer
That's a good idea, Richard. I'll put the 240D and the 300D side by side and jumper with all the cables off. I know the 240D battery is good. Batteries are both group 49. Thanks, Gerry From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com Like everybody else has said, please change the battery

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2013-09-03 Thread Michael Canfield
If you are saying you are going to use your jumper cables in between the 240 battery and the 300 cables and starter yhen you better have a big set of cables. Like welding cable. Otherwise you will burn them up and not answer your question. Better to just swap out the batteries and see if the

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2013-09-03 Thread Richard Hattaway
, 2013 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D Ever try to start a car where the battery in the car is dead? It takes a helluva lot of current to get a car started. Normal battery cables are so short they don't have to be all that thick. Now you want to run from one car to another

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2013-09-03 Thread Fmiser
Richard wrote: In fact, what will probably happen is the alternator will begin charging the newly introduced battery since the questionable one was run dry, thus has a high resistance cell eliminating the ability for the battery to be charged by the alternator.  If the battery has high

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-03 Thread Fmiser
Gerry wrote: Can someone tell me where the wire from the buss to the battery connects to the positive battery cable so I can check it's continuity and clean the connection? Better - or more accurate - than measuring continuity is to measure voltage drop. After starting the engine (so the

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-03 Thread Gerry Archer
I do have heavy cables but won't be using them to start the 300D. I'll start the 300D with its battery and then disconnect it and hook the 300D cables to the jumpers and the other end of the jumpers to the disconnected 240D battery. There will probably be a voltage drop but I should be able

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-03 Thread Peter Frederick
Don't do this, you are likely to blow the diodes in the alternator by running it without the battery connected! If you want to see if it charges the other battery, install the battery in the car. If the battery boiled out, even one cell, either it was charging at far too high a voltage,

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2013-09-03 Thread Craig
On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 21:23:28 -0500 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Don't do this, you are likely to blow the diodes in the alternator by running it without the battery connected! What he said. If you run the car with the battery disconnected, you are likely to damage your

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-03 Thread Gerry Archer
From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Don't do this, you are likely to blow the diodes in the alternator by running it without the battery connected! If you want to see if it charges the other battery, install the battery in the car. If the battery boiled out, even one cell, either

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-03 Thread Richard Hattaway
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D I do have heavy cables but won't be using them to start the 300D.  I'll start the 300D with its battery and then disconnect it and hook the 300D cables to the jumpers

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2013-09-03 Thread Craig
On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 23:37:46 -0400 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: .. What I thought about doing was putting the jumpers between the batteries just like I was jumpstarting the car. Then I start the car with the questionable battery/alternator. Leaving

Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-03 Thread Richard Hattaway
with a high resistance cell will normally cause the alternator to not charge. From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D Richard wrote: In fact, what

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2013-09-03 Thread Richard Hattaway
at one. From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 23:37:46 -0400 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote

[MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

2013-09-02 Thread Gerry Archer
Sorry to interrupt this ongoing discussion about Rusty and Trent and Gary, but I have a question about the alternator on my '83 300D. There are three wires coming out of the alternator. Service Manual SM-1243 shows that the two heavy wires, same color, are common inside the alternator. It

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2013-09-02 Thread rickknoble
Gerry wrote: Also, where is the ground strap from the frame to the engine/transmission? Under the drivers side. Here is a picture. http://db.tt/6tliKmON Rick Knoble Sent from My Samsung tablet ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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2013-09-02 Thread Richard Hattaway
Answers among the questions From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 9:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D Sorry to interrupt this ongoing discussion about