it's not desirable but the collapse of america has already happened.
someone will come and restore order. someone always does
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Alex Chamberlain
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> On Dec 20, 2013 9:14 PM, "Gary Hurst" wrote:
> >
> > when the chinese take over
> > completely (if there is a
On Dec 20, 2013 9:14 PM, "Gary Hurst" wrote:
>
> when the chinese take over
> completely (if there is anything left
> worth
> taking over -- we might just be one
> giant detroit in 20 years), they will
> set us straight on such matters
>
You make it sound like this is desirable. I will go out fi
) but her grandparents
> insist she's a "good mother".
>
> Needless to say we're not close with that branch of the family...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 20:41:28 -0700
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> and how many killed by tylenol? or shaolin kung fu?
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Scott wrote:
> ...criminals can always obtain firearms, regardless of
> laws.
You know the definition of stupid?
Keep trying the same action expecting different outcome.
Law against guns has failed, not hooch laws.
We need to take the issue of guns in our hands - gov't of and by the people.
We can
s a "good mother".
Needless to say we're not close with that branch of the family...
-Curt
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 20:41:28 -0700
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On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:07:04 -0500 Rich Thomas
wrote:
> Relatives of the 19 year old told media that "/he is a good kid/."
I guess if he hasn't pointed a gun in your face, he's a good kid.
But now that he has pointed a gun in someone's face and there is visible
proof of that fact, his relatives
Not all that many die from tylenol but I think its still a surprisingly large
number.
http://www.propublica.org/article/tylenol-mcneil-fda-behind-the-numbers
-Curt
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 14:05:52 -0500
From: Gary Hurst
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Well, Trevonnte was not confronted by a cop on the bus, but after taking
possessions from three people, a rider managed to disarm him by sticking
his finger into the trigger guard, behind the trigger, to prevent
Trevonnte from being able to fire the gun. Then this guy and some
others beat the
Here's a breakdown, somewhat dated (2001). I think the fireatm rate
is now
down to 50%.
So where, in there, is cop?
-- Jim
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Here's a breakdown, somewhat dated (2001). I think the fireatm rate is now
down to 50%.
Rate Per
Number 100,000 % of Total
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Like how?
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:
>
> Cars and guns each kill about 30K persons
It might help, but the greatest positive value of firearms is the prevention
of death or injury when nobody is actually killed or injured. It's very
difficult to quantify things that don't happen. Data I've seen indicates
that guns prevent crimes between 1 and 5 times as often as they are used t
Greg wrote:
> The removal from society of someone...
Lots of us need to be removed from society.
Don't count on gov't.
Let it happen.
mao
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Cars and guns each kill about 30K persons annually in the US. But 20K of
the gun deaths are suicides, who would presumably kill
Cars and guns each kill about 30K persons annually in the US. But 20K of
the gun deaths are suicides, who would presumably kill themselves some other
way if a gun wasn't available.
Often in a car.
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And, how many people do cars kill vs. guns???
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And, how many people do cars kill vs. guns???
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and how many killed by tylenol? or shaolin kung fu?
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:03 PM, OK Don wrote:
> And, how many people do cars kill vs. guns???
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
>
> > Curt Raymond wrote:
> >
> >> Legal full autos are actually licensed not unlike a c
And, how many people do cars kill vs. guns???
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
> Curt Raymond wrote:
>
>> Legal full autos are actually licensed not unlike a car.
>>
>
> Well, there are a lot of unlikes in there, for instance it hasn't been
> illegal to make new cars to sell
Curt Raymond wrote:
Legal full autos are actually licensed not unlike a car.
Well, there are a lot of unlikes in there, for instance it hasn't been illegal
to make new cars to sell since 1986, and you don't have to ask fedgov for
permission to take possession of the used car you just bought a
On Dec 17, 2013 8:24 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
I had a chance to put a full belt
through a WW I water cooled BAR a
few years ago, courtesy of Brownells.
That wasn't a BAR--it's air-cooled and feeds from a box magazine. Maybe a
Browning M1917?
Alex
yep. just trying
On Dec 17, 2013 8:24 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
> I had a chance to put a full belt
> through a WW I water cooled BAR a
> few years ago, courtesy of Brownells.
That wasn't a BAR--it's air-cooled and feeds from a box magazine. Maybe a
Browning M1917?
Alex
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This just so Hendrik can enjoy what another group I belong to does about 4
times a year.
Every weapon you see in the video is FULL AUTO and FULLY LICENSED to
private citizens.
The cheapest entry into this ownership is in the $5,000 dollar range.. the
p
Actually thinking about it, you have lot have gun restrictions, far as
I know you can't own a full auto rifle there.
Not in Washington. Ten miles away, in Idaho, you can.
However, a cannon is legal in WA, but not ID. Go figure.
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Andrew wrote:
> Alluvium is a geologist's term. Are you of that ilk?
Out west, it is hard not to be of that ilk. But rather than geology,
the issue was water and water rights. It was shown that water was a
better investment than gold. The biz that paid bills when I was
employed intended to use
Alluvium is a geologist's term. Are you of that ilk?
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
> Grant wrote:
> > A few more minutes of entertainment for Hendrik and anyone interested
> >
>
> Craig - when you lived out there by Peyton, did you know Dragonman?
> Dragonman was the guy
Legal full autos are actually licensed not unlike a car.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 17:59:56 -0500
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Grant wrote:
> A few more minutes of entertainment for Hendrik and anyone interested
>
Craig - when you lived out there by Peyton, did you know Dragonman?
Dragonman was the guy at the top of the hill on Hwy94 east of CSpgs,
just east of the landfill and pick n pull. He did this type of gun
thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okXKlLF2lh0
A few more minutes of entertainment for Hendrik and anyone interested
Grant
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:52 PM, G Mann wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA8I5ADd4Mk
>
> This just so Hendrik can enjoy what another group I belong to does about 4
> t
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA8I5ADd4Mk
This just so Hendrik can enjoy what another group I belong to does about 4
times a year.
Every weapon you see in the video is FULL AUTO and FULLY LICENSED to
private citizens.
The cheapest entry into this ownership is in the $5,000 dollar range.. the
pr
i've always wanted to unload with a BAR
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> I get the point but you miss the idea that someone might just own one that
> has, say, been in the family or something, for a long time. Legally of
> course.
>
>
I get the point but you miss the idea that someone might just own one
that has, say, been in the family or something, for a long time. Legally
of course.
--R (not that I would have any specific knowledge of any such thing)
On 12/17/13 6:18 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
you miss the point with full a
tommy guns are pretty easy to handle on full auto. they are heavy and
shoot a relatively weak round for a long gun.
i've always like AKs best though, with their vicious barrel rise. cut
someone in half in a hurry
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Craig wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:49:18 +1
you miss the point with full autos. most of them cannot be made "legal" so
the small number of legals ones out there are VERY expensive. you can be
licensed to have one by paying the $300 tax stamp but you can't own one you
can legally use without spending big bucks
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:59
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:49:18 +1030 Hendrik and Fay
wrote:
> semi-autos are not 'outlaws', however you need to have a very good
> reason to own one.
> And no, needing a semi-auto in case the king of England decides to
> invade is not a good enough reason.
> Actually thinking about it, you have l
An individual in the US can own a full auto with a proper permit. An
individual can also own a full auto without a proper permit, but that
would be improper. Converting various semis to full auto is a
relatively simple procedure with the (im)proper part.
--R
On 12/17/13 5:19 PM, Hendrik and
semi-autos are not 'outlaws', however you need to have a very good
reason to own one.
And no, needing a semi-auto in case the king of England decides to
invade is not a good enough reason.
Actually thinking about it, you have lot have gun restrictions, far as I
know you can't own a full auto rif
When I saw that oz outlaws semi auto rifles, that was enough for me.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 15, 2013, at 10:07 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
>
> I take mild offence at your suggestion that our gun laws are nanny state.
> Sure we have a ship load of nanny rules but the gun ones are pretty sen
At 7:13 AM -0500 12/16/13, Mitch Haley wrote:
Somebody actually AGREES with Rebecca Peters?
Sorry, don't need that sort of discussion here, but in certain
circles she's thought of as one of the planet's village idiots, sort
of like a female Mike Bloomberg.
What I'd like is to see idiots like
Hendrik and Fay wrote:
I take mild offence at your suggestion that our gun laws are nanny state.
Sure we have a ship load of nanny rules but the gun ones are pretty
sensible.
I am not going to get into an argument about it, as the article pretty
much sums up my feelings.
Somebody actually AGR
I take mild offence at your suggestion that our gun laws are nanny state.
Sure we have a ship load of nanny rules but the gun ones are pretty
sensible.
I am not going to get into an argument about it, as the article pretty
much sums up my feelings.
Anyway Klebby better email that fella selling t
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