Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-20 Thread John W. Reames III
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, Loren Faeth wrote: One way is to add some algicide/water dispersant, except for Herr Booth whos cars never sit long enough to collect condensation. We were, however originally talking about a car that has set inactive for years. I dunno how long this sat for before I

Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-18 Thread Loren Faeth
One way is to add some algicide/water dispersant, except for Herr Booth whos cars never sit long enough to collect condensation. We were, however originally talking about a car that has set inactive for years. At 07:24 PM 2/16/2007, you wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Marshall Booth wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-18 Thread Marshall Booth
Loren Faeth wrote: One way is to add some algicide/water dispersant, except for Herr Booth whos cars never sit long enough to collect condensation. We were, however originally talking about a car that has set inactive for years. I would certainly suggest a water sequestering agent in fuel

Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-18 Thread Peter Frederick
And buy several filters -- likely you will shake all sorts of crud loose and they will plug several times until you get it all out. Watch for a plugging tank screed, too -- quite likely if there is algae in there. Once it's dead, it will plug the screen as it peels of the tank bottom.

Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-18 Thread Marshall Booth
Peter Frederick wrote: And buy several filters -- likely you will shake all sorts of crud loose and they will plug several times until you get it all out. Watch for a plugging tank screed, too -- quite likely if there is algae in there. Once it's dead, it will plug the screen as it peels of

Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-18 Thread tom savage
Marshall Booth wrote: I would certainly suggest a water sequestering agent in fuel that's been setting for months or years. Once the water is bound, the algae dies and there's no need for a separate algaecide (or you can drain the fuel - that's the most complex, but safest solution). Old

Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-17 Thread Marshall Booth
Loren Faeth wrote: I forgot to mention, as with any diesel where a tank of fuel sits over one or more summers, there is a very high probability of algae in the tank. Before you crank it, put the shock treatment of algicide (Stanadyne or equivalent) in the tank and mix it in the best you can.

Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-17 Thread Rich Thomas
Pour in a bit of ethanol and get them drunk, then they will just want to drink more and not eat your fuel. At least that's how it works for me. --R (going now for another homebrew) Marshall Booth wrote: You NEVER need to use an algaecide as long as you remove ALL water from the fuel tank

Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-17 Thread John W. Reames III
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Marshall Booth wrote: You NEVER need to use an algaecide as long as you remove ALL water from the fuel tank several times a year and buy quality fuel. Algae can't live unless there is water in the tank. They live in the water - they EAT the fuel. How do you empty the

Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-17 Thread Marshall Booth
Rich Thomas wrote: Pour in a bit of ethanol and get them drunk, then they will just want to drink more and not eat your fuel. At least that's how it works for me. Ethanol (and other alcohols) sequester water - no water - bugs die and can't make more bugs! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D.

Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-17 Thread Marshall Booth
John W. Reames III wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Marshall Booth wrote: You NEVER need to use an algaecide as long as you remove ALL water from the fuel tank several times a year and buy quality fuel. Algae can't live unless there is water in the tank. They live in the water - they EAT the

Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-17 Thread tom savage
Thanks for all the tips, guys. I didn't get a chance to work on it yesterday, but should be able to get to it in the coming week. I'm hopeful that it won't have any problems with algae. The car has been in climate controlled storage all this time; last spring I revived an '83 300D that had

[MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-16 Thread tom savage
I'm going to attempt to resurrect a '65 190Dc in the next week or so. The car is unbelievably clean and all original but hasn't been run in many years. I'm not familiar with these older diesels and have only looked at the car for about five minutes so far but have confirmed that the glow

Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
is this at the museum? tom savage wrote: I'm going to attempt to resurrect a '65 190Dc in the next week or so. The car is unbelievably clean and all original but hasn't been run in many years. I'm not familiar with these older diesels and have only looked at the car for about five minutes so

Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-16 Thread Peter Frederick
Best way to check the GP is with a volt meter with the knob pulled out to glow position. There is no fuse. Most likely you have an open GP somewhere, or the ground wire is corroded off (at #1). There are two resistor links, the zigzag ones that get hot when the GP are working, so be

Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-16 Thread Marshall Booth
Peter Frederick wrote: Best way to check the GP is with a volt meter with the knob pulled out to glow position. There is no fuse. Most likely you have an open GP somewhere, or the ground wire is corroded off (at #1). There are two resistor links, the zigzag ones that get hot when the GP are

Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-16 Thread Jim Cathey
So... how to test series plugs? Pull them and check resistance/brokenness individually? Or as an easier alternative, maybe check volatage to ground along the glow string with the knob pulled out, and look for voltage to drop to zero at the bad plug/resistor wire? You initially probe between

Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-16 Thread Loren Faeth
Yep, what they said. Other than the series plugs, it is for all practical maintenance purposes, the same as an OM616 The 190Dc is a 3 main crank. What's that? 621.912? I forget. The 200D engine is a 5 main. I think that is 621.915. Valve clearances, as Peter and Marshall said, are the

Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-16 Thread Loren Faeth
I forgot to mention, as with any diesel where a tank of fuel sits over one or more summers, there is a very high probability of algae in the tank. Before you crank it, put the shock treatment of algicide (Stanadyne or equivalent) in the tank and mix it in the best you can. Have a spare fuel

Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-16 Thread andrew strasfogel
Please file regular progress reports so the list can second guess you, er, I mean offer trenchant and helpful advice/observations. On 2/16/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot to mention, as with any diesel where a tank of fuel sits over one or more summers, there is a very high