typical NY slimes. " The Authority on Everything" (they know nothing
about)
G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
NY Times isn't worth lining a monkey cage. ALL airlines are on progressive
maintenance schedules which are based on number of cycles or hours of
operation for each component on the engine A
A lap belt won't keep you from being sucked out of the seat when a window blows
out, it's happened before (DC-10) due to engine failure.
Cogent point is that the cowling is supposed to stay on and contain the flying
bits, for several reasons, and in this instance, the cowling failed from a
sing
Commentary there says the woman WAS wearing a seatbelt, and the shrapnel
WAS contained.
But...
A seatbelt can only do so much, and the window WAS right there next to
her. Also, the fan shrapnel
was contained, but the horrendous vibration caused other parts of the
engine nacelle to fracture and
f
ttest-21>”
>
> Back then, they had no customers for the engine. Now, follow-on versions
> of those engines are everywhere.
>
> Addison Thompson
> CL500
>
>
> On Apr 19, 2018, Floyd wrote:
>
> From: Floyd Thursby
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!
> Date: April 19,
l_CFM56#cite_note-20>[18]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFM_International_CFM56#cite_note-flighttest-21>”
Back then, they had no customers for the engine. Now, follow-on versions of
those engines are everywhere.
Addison Thompson
CL500
On Apr 19, 2018, Floyd wrote:
From: Floyd
Please just stop.
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Max
Charleston SC
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Our new buddy Kim the young dictator refuses to fly at all so he won't get
> to enjoy the pleasures of
>
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Our new buddy Kim the young dictator refuses to fly at all so he won't get
to enjoy the pleasures of marawacko when he meets with fake45..
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Aisle seat towards the rear... my choice
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 4/18/
Aisle seat towards the rear... my choice
--FT
On 4/18/18 4:13 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
On 18/04/2018 12:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
They pulled somebody back in who lived but is in the hospital. I
would assume one got sucked completely out.
Only one death - t
That's what the pilot said.
--FT (who bets once she got home she might have cracked a bottle of
something to decompress a bit)
On 4/18/18 1:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Maybe I have a different point of view but when these sort of things happen
they call the pilot a hero. I
mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: OK Don
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!
I agree that she was killed by the shrapnel, then further beaten by the
slip stream. IIRC, those pilots get frequent s
been the result of counterfeit engine parts?
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:24 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: OK Don
> Subject:
More to the point, I suspect a design problem -- the cowling is supposed to
contain a thrown fan blade, and it appears that just one blade came loose or
broke off.
The engine may have had quite a few parts replaced, but some of it is indeed 18
years old. I don't know what maintenance schedules
in? Could this have been the result of counterfeit engine parts?
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:24 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> C
Don
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!
I agree that she was killed by the shrapnel, then further beaten by the
slip stream. IIRC, those pilots get frequent simulator training on handling
just such an event. If they can keep their head when it happens in real
life, they should be fine. However, that is no
; via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:24 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: OK Don
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!
>
> I agree that she was killed by the shrapnel, then further beaten by the
> slip stream. IIRC, those pilots get frequent simulator training on ha
For many years SWA farmed out maintenance to non union Co. to avoid
organizing & oversight. Not sure it is,still true.
Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
On Apr 18, 2018 6:46 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes"
wrote:
I am more worried about the maintenance policies and procedures of the
airline than the crews
I am more worried about the maintenance policies and procedures of the
airline than the crews, either set. It's really the bean counters that do
the damage . . .
For the most part, the provenance of every bolt, etc. in the aircraft can
be traced back to the raw materials, at least that's what I've
I think I am more worried about the quality of the maintenance crews
than the air crews.
RB
On 18/04/2018 4:19 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Some of the yupeen and asian airlines are pretty good also. Luthansa
and Aer Lingus come to mind, although Ryanair now is very high on the
lis
Some of the yupeen and asian airlines are pretty good also. Luthansa
and Aer Lingus come to mind, although Ryanair now is very high on the
list of safest, but I have not flown on that one. Singapore used to be
very good, but I don't know how they stack up now.
I enjoyed flying when the pil
2018 1:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: OK Don
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!
I agree that she was killed by the shrapnel, then further beaten by the
slip stream. IIRC, those pilots get frequent simulator training on handling
just such an event. If they can keep their head when it happens in
: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Cc: Scott Ritchey
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!
Both things can be true, IMO.
Military training is (IMO) why US airlines have better cockpit crews than other
airlines.
> -Original Message-
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
> ...
I like to sit within a few rows of the back. It is the most survivable
position. I kept my seatbelt fastened, if loose, all the time, unless I
was out of the seat every time I have flown as an adult. You get
treated like a dog or hog if you sit in the back, but to me it is worth
that to be
ercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Meade
> >> Dillon via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:56 AM
> >> To: Mercedes
> >> Cc: Meade Dillon
PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I think I'll stick to aisle seats in the future.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade
>> Dillon via Mercedes
>> S
reaking news" initial reports were ambiguous and confusing, as they
> > often are. But at this point it looks like Max has it right.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade
&
On 18/04/2018 12:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
They pulled somebody back in who lived but is in the hospital. I would assume
one got sucked completely out.
Only one death - the woman who was partly sucked out of the plane but
was pulled back in.
She survived the landing but l
cedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade Dillon
via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:56 AM
To: Mercedes
Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!
https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-pilot-who-saved-that-southwest-flight-is-a-badass-1825341463
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Max
Charlest
AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Meade Dillon
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!
>
> My understanding is that one lady got sucked out up to her waist,
> passengers pulled her back in, but she died later. I don't think anyone
> else got sucked out. The first report
Both things can be true, IMO.
Military training is (IMO) why US airlines have better cockpit crews than other
airlines.
> -Original Message-
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
> ...
>
> Maybe I have a different point of view but when these sort of things happen
> they call the p
8, 2018 11:18 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!
My understanding is that one lady got sucked out up to her waist,
passengers pulled her back in, but she died later. I don't think anyone
else got sucked out. The first report (cabin crew report to
My understanding is that one lady got sucked out up to her waist,
passengers pulled her back in, but she died later. I don't think anyone
else got sucked out. The first report (cabin crew report to flight deck)
of any bad news is almost always worse than reality, or interpreted with a
bias toward
the future.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade
> Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:56 AM
> To: Mercedes
> Cc: Meade Dillon
> Subject: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!
>
>
kiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade
>> Dillon via Mercedes
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:56 AM
>> To: Mercedes
>> Cc: Meade Dillon
>> Subject: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!
>>
>> https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-pilot-who-saved-that-southwest-flight-is-a-bad
-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade
> Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:56 AM
> To: Mercedes
> Cc: Meade Dillon
> Subject: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!
>
> https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-pilot-who-saved-that-southwest-flight-is-a-badass-1825
April 18, 2018 6:56 AM
> To: Mercedes
> Cc: Meade Dillon
> Subject: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!
>
> https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-pilot-who-saved-that-southwest-flight-is-a-badass-1825341463
>
>
>
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> Max
> Charleston SC
> _
I think I'll stick to aisle seats in the future.
Greg
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via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:56 AM
To: Mercedes
Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!
https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-pilot-who-saved-that-southwest-flight-is-a-badass-1825341463
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Max
Charleston SC
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