Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-23 Thread LarryT
the proposed 'universal health care' excludes congress? - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW LarryT wrote: Hi Mitch - so you are saying SP3 contains

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-22 Thread Curt Raymond
with no changes... Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:05:52 -0400 From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7  FWIW To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 1baf7e933cf144708b84bca1e77eb...@toshibalaptop Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-22 Thread Curt Raymond
I just saw something else in this, XP HOME... Go on eBay, buy a real copy of XP with SP2 (or 3 preferred) and try that. Or don't, I'll give you $100 for the Toshiba... -Curt Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:24:04 -0400 From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7  FWIW To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-22 Thread LarryT
- From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW LarryT wrote: Hi Mitch - Preparing to try SP3 - while looking for SP3, I came across this link http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950722

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-22 Thread Gary Hurst
i paid $399 for a closeout new in box previous generation mac mini at microcenter. maybe that is the answer? On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: Problem is that the older OS must be installed first for a dual boot

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-21 Thread Loren Faeth
Problem is that the older OS must be installed first for a dual boot system using 2 M$ os's. That means you need a real Wissta install cd. One possible workaround is with wista installed, run a linux install cd and do the partitition stuff then install XP from within the linux install

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-21 Thread LarryT
care' excludes congress? - Original Message - From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW Larry, Try installing the hard drive in your external enclosure. Then hook

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-21 Thread LarryT
: Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes: Have you low level formatted the drive and started from scratch? I don't think there's really any such thing as a low level format anymore on modern hard drives is there? Allan -- 1983 300D

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-21 Thread LarryT
: Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW Any chance a slipstreamed SP3 CD would install to it? The symptoms are different than what I've been getting with my 1TB drive. I installed SP1 onto the drive (it formatted to 127GB), then upgraded XP to SP3, and used Linux

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-21 Thread LarryT
List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:13:00 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I then tried to use my factory restore disk to install Vista on another partition, but instead of asking me which partition

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Loren Faeth wrote: Problem is that the older OS must be installed first for a dual boot system using 2 M$ os's. That means you need a real Wissta install cd. I hope to get around it thusly: 1. Partition 25GB, 25GB, 50GB and 850GB. (done) 2. Install wista on the 50GB. (done) 3. Make wista

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: Hi Mitch - so you are saying SP3 contains the drivers and SP1 does not? I'm saying SP3 (and I believe SP2) can handle a hard drive 130GB. I don't know if that's part of your problem or not. Can I skip slipstreaming SP12? As far as I know, if you download the full SP3,

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-21 Thread LarryT
? - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW LarryT wrote: Hi Mitch - so you are saying SP3 contains the drivers and SP1 does not? I'm saying SP3 (and I

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Mitch Haley wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: Problem is that the older OS must be installed first for a dual boot system using 2 M$ os's. That means you need a real Wissta install cd. I hope to get around it thusly: 1. Partition 25GB, 25GB, 50GB and 850GB. (done) 2. Install wista on the 50GB.

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-21 Thread LarryT
' excludes congress? - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW LarryT wrote: Hi Mitch - so you are saying SP3 contains the drivers and SP1 does not? I'm

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-21 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:34:01 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I'm about ready to buy Norton Ghost (or look for a freeware equivalent) and make a copy of my existing XP drive to put on the new drive. With Linux, you could use the dd comand. Craig

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-21 Thread E M
'universal health care' excludes congress? - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW LarryT wrote: Hi Mitch - so you are saying SP3 contains

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-21 Thread Peter Frederick
Yes, you can. The Mac will recognize a PC drive and happily copy files over. It can also format drives for PC's, either format. One of the multitude of reasons I have a Mac. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-21 Thread E M
Hi Peter, problem is, I'm going the other day, old Mac to new PC. I've always used Mac's, so have a bunch of old ones. This is my second PC. My thoughts were, get everything onto on comp, then dump it on an external drive, so it's easy to just plug into whatever comp comes along next, which

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: Hi Mitch - Preparing to try SP3 - while looking for SP3, I came across this link http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950722 where it tells of MS Key recognition problems. But I hope I'll find a way around it. See what you think -- That link was what saved me, Larry. It seems

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-21 Thread Peter Frederick
Ed: Microsoft products don't read Mac. The trick is to get an empty external drive and dump the Mac data onto a PC formated drive (Drive Utility will format an external drive with either FAT32 or whatever the new extended format is). Your Mac should happily copy files onto the disk

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-21 Thread E M
Thanks Peter. Problem is, some of these Mac's are now so old, using USB on some of them is a problem, that's why I was just pulling the howl HD and sticking them in an external drive to load into the newer comp. Once I have everything in one place and sorted, I'll then dump it all onto an

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-20 Thread Tim C
Wow, Redmond magazine? For a pre-release 'no-one will want to downgrade' seems a bit premature... On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.comwrote: Personally, the more I use OSX, the more i like it. No 64 bit migration problems. It has always been 64 bit. I

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-20 Thread LarryT
Subject: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW According to Redmond Magazine today, M$ will allow buyers of higher end versions of Win 7 to downgrade to XP at no extra charge. By Doug Barney Editor in Chief, Redmond magazine http://www.1105newsletters.com/t.do?id=2828309:1060387Windows 7: You Can Go Back When

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-20 Thread Barry Stark
-Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 12:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW The Toshiba Laptop I bought in late march has Vista Ultimate. I have been

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-20 Thread LWB250
...@roadrunner.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 3:58 PM Larry - That seems strange to me as my 3 year old Dell desktop has a 320Gb SATA hard drive and I just recently purchased an OEM copy of XP pro

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-20 Thread LWB250
. MacDan --- On Sat, 6/20/09, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 3:24 PM The Toshiba Laptop I bought in late march has Vista Ultimate.  I

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-20 Thread dave walton
come the proposed 'univ health care' excludes congress? - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:16 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW According to Redmond Magazine today, M$ will allow

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-20 Thread E M
wanted to play. MacDan --- On Sat, 6/20/09, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 3:24 PM The Toshiba Laptop I bought in late march has

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-20 Thread LarryT
...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW Now that I think about this it sounds bogus. We were using HP desktops downgraded to XP a year ago that had SATA drives in them. Have you low level formatted

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-20 Thread E M
Message - From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW Now that I think about this it sounds bogus. We were using HP desktops downgraded to XP a year ago that had SATA drives in them

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-20 Thread dave walton
@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW Now that I think about this it sounds bogus.  We were using HP desktops downgraded to XP a year ago that had SATA drives in them. Have you low level formatted the drive and started from scratch? Dan

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-20 Thread LarryT
, 2009 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW I haven't tried this yet Larry, but being a computer guy, maybe it's something you use, or are familiar with. I'm not really into spending big bucks on software either, only to have it redundant in a few months, or requiring more expensive updates

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-20 Thread Russ Williams
Larry, Try installing the hard drive in your external enclosure. Then hook it up to the lappy and boot up your XP CD see if it sees the hard drive. If it does then do the install. External drive enclosures have their own SATA controller. If you are LUCKY and this works then reinstall the hard

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-20 Thread Allan Streib
LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes: Have you low level formatted the drive and started from scratch? I don't think there's really any such thing as a low level format anymore on modern hard drives is there? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-20 Thread Peter Frederick
Not really, but you can re-partition it and create a new file system. Low level formatting has been a thing of the past for at least 20 years now. All modern drives have one surface used as a servo signal for the heads to locate the tracks -- that head cannot write to the disk. Peter

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-20 Thread Mitch Haley
Any chance a slipstreamed SP3 CD would install to it? The symptoms are different than what I've been getting with my 1TB drive. I installed SP1 onto the drive (it formatted to 127GB), then upgraded XP to SP3, and used Linux to redo the partitions. I then tried to use my factory restore disk

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-20 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:13:00 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I then tried to use my factory restore disk to install Vista on another partition, but instead of asking me which partition, it just threw out the partition table, reformatted, and installed. Say goodbye to the XP

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-20 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig McCluskey wrote: What does slipstreaming a CD mean? Rebuilding a prior version install CD with a later service pack update built in. http://www.howtohaven.com/system/slipstream-xp-service-pack-3.shtml ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

[MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-19 Thread Loren Faeth
According to Redmond Magazine today, M$ will allow buyers of higher end versions of Win 7 to downgrade to XP at no extra charge. By Doug Barney Editor in Chief, Redmond magazine http://www.1105newsletters.com/t.do?id=2828309:1060387Windows 7: You Can Go Back When Vista came out, many new

Re: [MBZ] OT Win 7 FWIW

2009-06-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Many large corporations with proprietary software will not upgrade since their software (for things like maintenance scheduling, parts ordering, and personnel management) will NOT run on Vista or Win 7. It took the company I consult for until three years ago to upgrade from Win 2000, I