that chrysler whatever sedan looks like a bathtub, 300m I think
Bob Rentfro wrote:
Curt reminded us:
One skipped over so far is the PT Cruiser
When a PT Cruiser Convertable puts its top down, it looks like a bathtub.
Wicked ugly.
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 157K
'87 Acura Legend 177K
Still
Mitch Haley wrote:
Frederick Moir wrote:
VW Rabbit PU, it succumbed to rust and I wore out the engine. It would take
off of its'
own accord with lots of smoke. Help! Stand on the brakes and get it under
sixty and
continue, cautiously. Shouldda used M1!
My brother owned a $200
Curt Raymond wrote:
The Element has nothing on the Aztec. I've actually ridden in the Element and
I liked it. I appreciate the plastic floor, easy to clean, hard to damage.
The Element only looks useful, though. Look at the specs. My Honda Civic
Si had a larger payload capacity!
Potter, Tom E wrote:
I am of the form should follow function school, so I think a truck
should look like a...truck.
I've always thought the old International Harvester trucks, the ones
from the late 60s/early 70s, had really nice lines while still looking
like a truck. Here's a pretty good
The only way the big 3 heavy duty truck buyers is going to consider a
toyota heavy duty/diesel whatever is if the price is just so cheap cheap
cheap as to not be able to pass up trying it, and assuming the quality
is good at the same time.
Donald Snook wrote:
Kaleb wrote:
I can assure
Actually, I am hearing just the oposite. Toyota has starting producing
so many cars that the quality has started slipping.
Curt Raymond wrote:
Toyota's 3 brands (Toyota, Lexus and Scion) are just about set to become the
world's largest auto maker over GM's 8 (Chevrolet, Cadillac, Pontiac,
Until the Yota is getting 5-7 MPG better while passing them uphill.
Mike
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From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Small Diesel PU
I can assure you
I agree, Toyoto quality has slipped -- sadly, particularly since they moved
production to North America (the Corolla is now built in Canada). That being
said, however, just ask at any rental outlet that has Toyotas and they will
tell you Toyota is still way out in front compared to their
Steve,
Hate to burst yer bubble but I agree with your assessment of Toyota's
styling.boring! They have been for yearsat least now most
Japanese companies have stopped copying MB's styling and are aiming more
for BMW which has had soe nice designs for years nowMB has a few too..
Even the 80's Supra was dead boring and had a manual transmissio like a
truck..snooze
Jeff Zedic
Toronto
Of Jeff Zedic
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:08 AM
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...damn that GM stuff looks like a 10 yer old drew the conceptUGH
Jeff Zedic
Both feet on the ground in Toronto
87 300TD
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True, the Element is one of those that, from the back, looks like it has
a load
in its pants.
But sometimes ugly can
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Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Small Diesel PU
True, the Element is one of those that, from the back, looks like it has a
load
in its pants.
But sometimes ugly can be good. I still like the look of the old Toyota
FJ40s
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From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:19 AM
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I am of the form should follow function school, so I think a truck
should look like a...truck. While I am not experienced
Larry noted:
The Pacer Gremlin have finally been pushed out of co-1st place.
I always thought the AMC Matador was the ugliest of all time.
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 157K
'87 Acura Legend 177K
Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K
Litchfield Park, AZ
@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Small Diesel PU
Larry noted:
The Pacer Gremlin have finally been pushed out of co-1st place.
I always thought the AMC Matador was the ugliest of all time.
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 157K
'87 Acura Legend 177K
Still waiting on '72
Yeah the Matador was bone ugly! It looked kind of like a Studbaker Hawk
modernized by a moron.
I remember the commercial with the guys in the driveway. The one that
had to say, Gosh Dan, that's beautiful should have got an Osc for the
performance...not that they're worth anythingperhaps
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From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:08 AM
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Yeah the Matador was bone ugly! It looked kind of like a Studbaker Hawk
modernized by a moron.
I remember the commercial
Thanks for that way of looking at it Bob...I'm observanthmm
Jeff Zedic
Toronto
.
Hideous, the convertable is the worst but they're all pretty bad.
Heres a new tagline; GM because somebody has to make rental cars
-Curt
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:47:53 -0400
From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Small Diesel PU
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes
The day Toyota makes a diesel one ton truck it will set the big three on
their collective ears so to speak.
Mike
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From: Frederick Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:44 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Small
I doubt it.
Mike Canfield wrote:
The day Toyota makes a diesel one ton truck it will set the big three on
their collective ears so to speak.
Mike
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81
I can assure you that people who like their big american trucks will
most likely not be interested in a toyota. As it stands now, people are
really big into their brand, Ford, Chevy, or Dodge. I just dont see
those type of people going foreign
Curt Raymond wrote:
Thats exactly the
Kaleb wrote:
I can assure you that people who like their big american trucks will
most likely not be interested in a toyota. As it stands now, people are
really big into their brand, Ford, Chevy, or Dodge. I just dont see
those type of people going foreign
I think you are
cringe. People will switch to better products.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:16:59 -0500
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Small Diesel PU
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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The toyotas aren't a bad choice for people who just want to be seen in
a truck and haul bicycles around, but for serious work, they are rated
too close to their limits . Americans are used to TRUCKS that you can
overload way beyond sanity and not hurt them.
I've known a few guys who were die
Robert Tara Ludwick wrote:
The toyotas aren't a bad choice for people who just want to be seen in
a truck and haul bicycles around, but for serious work, they are rated
too close to their limits . Americans are used to TRUCKS that you can
overload way beyond sanity and not hurt them.
I
Robert Tara Ludwick wrote:
I filled a 1973 F100 with oats and drove it to the elevator.
My usual weigh slip was something like 4400lb (weight of oats, not the truck).
Truck was stock except for air shocks in the back. It was riding low,
but seemed to take it in stride. I don't think I'd
I used to haul 6-7 tons in a 68 IH 1500 (1 1/2 ton rating) regularly. It
would wallow a bit (like a 79 for station wagon with no load) But never
had a problem with the truck. The (non IH) hoist would grunt and strain,
but it always lifted the load and dumped it. The box and hoist was off a
Hi, All.
I've had two small diesel pickups. A Toyota Hi-Lux, with a suspiciously MBZ
type engine, that #1 son killed by holing #3 piston and the input shaft bearing
failed in the 5 speed, plus his 3 accidents. (sigh). The other was the VW
Rabbit PU, it succumbed to rust and I wore out the
Frederick Moir wrote:
VW Rabbit PU, it succumbed to rust and I wore out the engine. It would take
off of its'
own accord with lots of smoke. Help! Stand on the brakes and get it under
sixty and
continue, cautiously. Shouldda used M1!
My brother owned a $200 rabbit that did that on
VW made a splash shield on the later models
http://www.greaseworks.org/index.php?module=pncommercefunc=itemviewItemID=10
and changed the way it exits the valve cover to stop that bit of excitement.
-Robert
Frederick Moir wrote:
Hi, All.
I've had two small diesel pickups. A Toyota
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