be nice!
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
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From: Tim C
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On Feb 9, 2012 8:15 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
Hendrik Fay heni
: Thursday, February 09, 2012 5:37 PM
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On Feb 9, 2012 8:15 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au writes:
What is the plan? Drive 300miles and then charge it up
The flip side to that 0 emissions argument is we never hear more than
tail-pipe emissions, rarely anything about refiner emissions. nbsp;I'm willing
to bet that a refiner is o par with power plants
Luther KB5QHU Forest Park, IL
'87 300SDL (322,xxx mi)
'91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi)nbsp;
I read somewhere last week that someone had done the calculations, and
electric cars came out emissions neutral relative to dino fueled cars -
either MSN autos or consumers reports perhaps.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Luther's Benz benz-n-h...@gulseth.netwrote:
The flip side to that 0
Free electricity?! I may wanta move there; 'been costing me ~ $ .09/kwh!
Wilton
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That makes no sense. The only way an electric car could be emissions
neutral is if it takes pollution in and cleans the air for normal use
just the way plants do.
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'87 300SDL (322,xxx mi)
'91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi)
On 2/10/2012 9:21 AM, OK Don wrote:
I
I think we need wood-burning steam cars, or wood gasmobiles. Carbon
neutral and will be good for after the coming collapse.
OBTW did you see that Fisker, who is supposedly building some sort of
electric car, got over a half billion $ gummint loan and is now in
discussions to revise terms of
He said relative to dino-fueled I took that to mean that they are
about the same, ultimately. Though I did have to read it twice.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Benz Hogs wrote:
That makes no sense. The only way an electric car could be emissions
neutral is if it takes pollution in and
No, it means that the generation of the electricity produces as much CO2
etc. as a gas car would have. Net change in CO2 and pollution is zero.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:
That makes no sense. The only way an electric car could be emissions
According to the Wikipedia entry for the Tesla Roadster:
Recharging with electricity from the average USA grid [...] yields a
full-cycle energy-equivalency of 44.0 mpg.
The formula for full-cycle energy-equivalency considers a bunch of upstream
factors in the production and transmission of
Ha. It's a gullwing.
http://www.teslamotors.com/modelx
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likely to force that failure.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:58:18 -0500
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
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On 10/02/2012 2:51 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
You can't compare the Tesla to other normal cars though, how many people road
trip in a Ferrari? Thats the market Tesla competes against. It is purely a rich people's
toy.
Anyway I find it amusing that the most common counter argument is but its
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I don't have anything *against* electric vehicles per-se, I just
You PASSED it?! 'Didn't know they were passable. ;)
Wilton
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According to the Wikipedia entry for the Tesla Roadster
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On 10/02/2012 2:51 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
You can't compare the Tesla
-Curt wrote:
You can't compare the Tesla to other normal cars though, how many people
road trip in a Ferrari? Thats the market Tesla competes against. It is purely
a rich people's toy.
My 240D 3-pedal daily driver was purely a rich people's toy in 1984.
Well... not toy, but...
I'd like to
http://www.teslamotors.com/modelx
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Hmmnh, seems to be a pretty expensive car and bound to be way more so
over here, when it gets here, if it gets here.
Also the model S does not appear to have a range extender motor, so when
the juice runs out the thing stops?
What is the plan? Drive 300miles and then charge it up for a few hours
Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au writes:
Hmmnh, seems to be a pretty expensive car and bound to be way more so
over here, when it gets here, if it gets here.
Also the model S does not appear to have a range extender motor, so
when the juice runs out the thing stops?
Yep the Tesla cars are
On Feb 9, 2012 8:15 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au writes:
What is the plan? Drive 300miles and then charge it up for a few hours
and go again?
I am thinking this is aimed at the upmarket commuter people?
Yeah they really only make sense
Allan Streib wrote:
Yeah they really only make sense for people with a lot of discretionary
cash who can afford to have a car they only drive locally.
I think it's just another toy.
My Realtor has a Miata, I forget how many years old he said it is, with 5000
miles on it.
300 miles on a charge.
In gas that's +/- $40.
Electricity is free. (Maybe the light bill goes up some)
Yep, wer'e screwed. Did it to our selves.
Blame it on Washington. Who sends the idiots there?
IRMC!
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Allan Streib wrote:
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On Feb 9, 2012 8:15 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au writes:
What is the plan? Drive 300miles and then charge it up
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