I thought they had Behr units under the dash.
Peter Frederick wrote:
They may have been factory, but the label on the under dash unit
says ThermoKing which is a US aftermarket brand.
Peter
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installed option,and here are some cars out there without it.
Peter
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From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net
Sent: Aug 5, 2010 10:54 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:16:24 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka
I asked Chip whos dad sold these things new and he said they were
factory. Somebody else said the 108's were factory as well, but I dont
know.
Dieselhead wrote:
Early 114/115 were dealer installed. the 76 300D i parted out had
factory A/C. Even the wiring harness was different than nonA/C
They may have been factory, but the label on the under dash unit
says ThermoKing which is a US aftermarket brand.
Peter
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On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:45:42 -0500 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
wrote:
They may have been factory, but the label on the under dash unit
says ThermoKing which is a US aftermarket brand.
Ah, yes, the under-dash units. I've seen pictures of those in earlier
cars.
My '72 220D/8, a W115,
Craig McCluskey wrote:
Yes, what he said. No way would a dealer go to all the trouble to install
the A/C in a '72 220D/8 like ours and have it look entirely like it really
belonged there.
A few years ago, the Special Value Chevy Aveo was a $1 car with no factory
options (which sold for
Sure the seats aren't out of a Camry or Volvo or something? Remind me
of my V70.
I've got a legit 115 rear seat. And two fronts, but Kaleb has called
the seat bottoms already, if he'll tell me where to send them. And
carpets and the rest of the interior, for a short time... so if
someone buys
How does the York in the early 123 compare? I like the look of the compressor
up right where you can get at it...
-Curt
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 21:59:24 -0500
From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 23:09:12 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Peter Frederick
psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
Sorry boys, I've talked to the guy who used to run the local Benz
dealer in those days. Dealer installed. Remember, we are talking
about the 60's here.
I'm talking 1972.
Craig
I know I've seen mid 60's 200 Series
On Aug 6, 2010 10:15 AM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 23:09:12 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Peter Frederick
psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
Sorry...
I'm talking 1972.
Craig
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there without it.
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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:16:24 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote
Even now there are aveos available with no ac, no cruise, no nothing.
Mitch Haley wrote:
Craig McCluskey wrote:
Yes, what he said. No way would a dealer go to all the trouble to
install
the A/C in a '72 220D/8 like ours and have it look entirely like it
really
belonged there.
A few years
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Im sure the 60's cars had dealer installed air, Im talking about the
later run 115's, those were factory (mid 70's). It appears
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Even now there are aveos available with no ac, no cruise, no nothing.
But are there still trim packages that don't have the option of A/C?
And do they sell a dealer installable A/C kit for those trim levels?
I had no idea what the present situation is, I just thought
: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Im sure the 60's cars had dealer installed air, Im talking about the
later run 115's, those were factory (mid 70's). It appears to me that
the chassis was probably not originally designed
yea, I have dealers we service right now that have those cars with no AC
at all in them. In fact, there is even a cobalt that does not have AC.
I do not know about the add on kit but it would not surprise me.
Mitch Haley wrote:
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Even now there are aveos available
W115/114 /8 was introduced in 1968, and the AC was indeed installed
at the dealer. Lots of stories about saving time by bending back
(and breaking) the sides of the console to shove the bits in without
pulling it as they were supposed to, leading to failures later.
All MBs were station
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:37:37 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:
Besides, the whole system is right there in the EPC.
The clincher.
Craig
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The presence of the parts in the manual does not preclude it being a
dealer installed option, it just means it's official Benz. All the
AC stuff was made in the US, after all, why ship it to Germany and
back again?
They all look the same because they are official Benz parts,
installed
into a 115?
Randy
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Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 9:17 PM
To: mercedes diesel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
That is the exact A/C system that I have in my 1975
I've had both - an aftermarket AC was installed in the 1970 220D I had,
complete with a non-MB center console, and the two 1976 300Ds had factory
AC.
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.netwrote:
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 12:34:43 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Peter Frederick
They do not, the W123 is slightly wider.
Peter
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The factory AC in in fact aftermarket -- it was dealer installed,
comprised of US made parts.
Peter
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls- seats
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The reason that I speculated that the seats
The two examples that i had were radically different (from the cabin point
of view), but then they were separated by 6 years also.
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote:
The factory AC in in fact aftermarket -- it was dealer installed,
comprised of US made
The W108 system was a ThermoKing that used an R type compressor from
GM, blower was in the passenger side kick panel. Universally
referrred to as inadequate, mainly because it has very poor air
circulation. The evaporator is fine, and should freeze you out, but
the air flow is best
So it looks like he has some sort of 124 seats in the front and 140
seats crammed in the back. Wow.
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html
In the 5th picture down, is that a normal climate control setup for
this vintage of 300D? What's with the knobs
the AC on those was not aftermarket. It was perhaps an afterthought
since orignal design, but they came from the factory with AC, at least
on the later 114/115
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
No ACC in any w114/115
Up to the W123 I believe they were dealer installed.
Peter
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On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:16:24 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:
the AC on those was not aftermarket. It was perhaps an afterthought
since orignal design, but they came from the factory with AC, at least
on the later 114/115
Yes, what he said. No way would a dealer go to all
are some cars out
there without it.
Peter
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From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net
Sent: Aug 5, 2010 10:54 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:16:24 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html
In the 5th picture down, is that a normal climate control setup for
this vintage of 300D? What's with the knobs near the stereo and the
sliders above in two separate groups---is that the factory A/C setup
with separate blowers? I am not
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Subject: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html
In the 5th picture down, is that a normal climate control setup for
this vintage of 300D
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
No ACC in any w114/115 chassis, only manual (aftermarket) AC.
By aftermarket you mean fitted by the dealer, right? Are these the
Behr units that are often mentioned or are there some /8s out there
with other kinds of
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
Are those even 115 seats?
-Curt
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:26:08 -0700
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On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
No ACC
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
Are those even 115 seats?
I'm going to have to go look at it. It doesn't even look like MB-Tex
in the pictures. Maybe they were recovered at some point, but then
why not match the door panel color?
A;ex
and plush. I'd trade my trashed
originals for those anyday...)
Stuart S.
Alex Chamberlain said:
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:26:08 -0700
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
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On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:26:08 -0700 Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html
In the 5th picture down, is that a normal climate control setup for
this vintage of 300D?
It looks close to what our '72 220D/8 had.
What's with the
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 12:34:43 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Peter Frederick
psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
No ACC in any w114/115 chassis, only manual (aftermarket) AC.
No! That is wrong! The A/C came from the factory!
Craig
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On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:21:09 -0500 R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote:
Yes, the car has the a/c parts on it. The compressor is very visible on
the left front of the engine. The knob to turn if on is above and to
the left side of the stereo.
The compressor is on the passenger front side of the
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 20:39:01 -0600 Craig McCluskey
diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
The controls to the right of the key lock are for heating and
ventilation.
The upper levers with the blue arrows control air flow, the left one
with the blue arrow pointing up to the defroster vents by the
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Are those even 115 seats?
-Curt
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:26:08 -0700
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