Re: [MBZ] 240d

2018-02-17 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/d/1991-mercedes-300e/6450109746.html Better than CoParts monkey dance. Just haul it away. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976 300D - Blei

Re: [MBZ] 240d

2018-02-17 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Yup. Nothing better than a good, simple, well sorted, manual everything 240D. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2018, at 5:33 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > Neither would I as much as I would like a 124 cab. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Feb 17, 2018 5:02 PM, "Curley M

Re: [MBZ] 240d

2018-02-17 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Neither would I as much as I would like a 124 cab. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Feb 17, 2018 5:02 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" wrote: > I wouldn't trade a good 240D for a 124 floptop > > Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> February 17, 2018 at 2:49 PM >> Heck

Re: [MBZ] 240d

2018-02-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I really need to get it. Let me see what I can figure out. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2018, at 4:15 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > I’m gonna get it out and clean it up a bit and take it to next months cars > and coffee I think. I might have to put it on the trailer and

Re: [MBZ] 240d

2018-02-17 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I’m gonna get it out and clean it up a bit and take it to next months cars and coffee I think. I might have to put it on the trailer and bring it to the vast estate then drive it over there from here as it’s only 1/2 mile and the brakes are a little rusty I think. --R Sent from iPhone > On Fe

Re: [MBZ] 240d

2018-02-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
True. I would imagine I could get more than 3k for the 240d. Something to think about. I only got $800 in it. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > You'd probably do better to take lotsa pictures and write a flowery > description, then sel

Re: [MBZ] 240d

2018-02-17 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
You'd probably do better to take lotsa pictures and write a flowery description, then sell the 240D on BAT. Then take part of your proceeds to buy the floptop. FIx it, then sell it on BAT (before it gets cooked in the Okies sun and covered in dust) Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 240d

2018-02-17 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I wouldn't trade a good 240D for a 124 floptop Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes February 17, 2018 at 2:49 PM Heck I am not sure I want to trade this 240D for that 124 cab. It’s a very nice 240d. Very simply mostly sorted out car. Trade for a rare 124 convertible th

Re: [MBZ] 240d

2018-02-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yes, I do need to get that CD Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2018, at 3:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Do the swap then buy this 300CD from me. > > --R > Sent from iPhone > >> On Feb 17, 2018, at 3:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Heck I am not

Re: [MBZ] 240d

2018-02-17 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Do the swap then buy this 300CD from me. --R Sent from iPhone > On Feb 17, 2018, at 3:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Heck I am not sure I want to trade this 240D for that 124 cab. It’s a very > nice 240d. Very simply mostly sorted out car. Trade for a rare 124 > converti

Re: [MBZ] 240d

2018-02-17 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
How bad do you want a convertible? A nice, simple 240D is also rare. Could you flip it and buy a better W124 Cab? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Heck I am not sure I want to trade this 240D for that 124 cab. It’s a very > nice

Re: [MBZ] 240d

2018-02-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Heck I am not sure I want to trade this 240D for that 124 cab. It’s a very nice 240d. Very simply mostly sorted out car. Trade for a rare 124 convertible that needs a new top and top hydraulics. H. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2018, at 1:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote:

[MBZ] 240d

2018-02-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Got the new tires mounted on the 240d. Drove it for a few miles and it drives great. Even got the ac going. However upon return I smelled burning brakes. RR caliper is dragging. Guess I will swap that out. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To s

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2018-02-14 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I don't know about high inflation pressure, but I would certainly go out and drive it a bunch more before I gave up on the tires. I almost wonder if lower pressure would permit more flex as I assume these are radial tires. I would not go below minimum pressure but I wonder if maximum would help

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2018-02-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Inflate the tires to max sidewall rated pressure, and then drive around for an hour or two, and I'll bet they revert from squares back to circles. - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 8:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So the guy with the

[MBZ] 240D

2018-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So the guy with the 124 cab called again today seeming really anxious to swap cars.  I told him maybe Saturday but I want to drive this car for a couple of days to see what else pops up.  I drove it today for a couple of miles, which from what I can tell is the only 2 miles it has been driven i

Re: [MBZ] 240D linkage part

2018-01-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Right Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 27, 2018, at 7:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Looks like they would cut off the ends and take the rectangular parts to slip > over the metal tabs on the linkage. > > -D > > >> On Jan 27, 2018, at 8:35 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes >> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 240D linkage part

2018-01-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Looks like they would cut off the ends and take the rectangular parts to slip over the metal tabs on the linkage. -D > On Jan 27, 2018, at 8:35 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Is there a picture of the repair using this part? > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > On Fri, J

Re: [MBZ] 240D linkage part

2018-01-27 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Is there a picture of the repair using this part? - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 7:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Remember the discussion about the bushing for the 240D linkage. Folks on > Benzworld say this part will work to repl

[MBZ] 240D linkage part

2018-01-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Remember the discussion about the bushing for the 240D linkage. Folks on Benzworld say this part will work to replace it.  You have to cut out the bushing part and install it on the leaver. http://www.autohausaz.com/pn/1100720038 --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.

Re: [MBZ] 240d linkage

2018-01-22 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
> > On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> On this 240d the linkage that comes from the pedal has 2 prongs that stick > >> into the linkage on the engine and should have 2 plastic busing things in > >> the holes. On this car t

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-22 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Mitch wrote: > > Without a drain cock in the bottom of the block, OM61x have a block drain. Just forward of the starter motor. I access it with a long extension through the starboard forward wheel well. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 240d linkage

2018-01-22 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Kaleb wrote: > On this 240d the linkage that comes from the pedal has 2 prongs > that stick into the linkage on the engine and should have 2 > plastic busing things in the holes. On this car the plastic > parts are mostly missing so the pedal had to go about half way > down before it starts movi

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-22 Thread MG via Mercedes
Not a good idea IMHO. You could end up with a bunch of dust and dirt in the water. The air filters in the dehumidifiers are not 100%. They are built just like the filters in most window AC units, just a plastic mesh to keep the worst of the dust bunnies from clogging up the evaporator fins. The

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-22 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>‎I saw the PDF attached to your posting to >the list after I sent my email. And I saw your reply after I hit the send button... :) >‎Well, what do you know! I stand >corrected! It is rare occurrence when an uneducated rube such as I can correct a nuclear physicist with a PhD. The closest thing

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-22 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:11:58 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > Craig sez: > >  >The best way is to put in a blocked-open >thermostat, otherwise you > do not get full >flow through the radiator > > See the attached pdf file. > Especially steps A. 2. ‎And B. 6. (and everything in between) :

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-22 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:48:46 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > Water softener cleaner is 100% citric acid and can be found at hardware > stores inexpensively. Good to know! Thanks! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-22 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:27:14 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > >> I removed the thermostat and >>reinstalled with the gasket but no > >> thermostat > > >The best way is to put in a blocked-open >thermostat, otherwise you do > >not get full flow through the radiator. > > On 61X engines the

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-22 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Same thing really ;) -Curt On Monday, January 22, 2018, 1:42:52 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 19:45:26 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Piece of metal tubing. > -Curt >  > >    On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 10:22:28 AM EST, tyee165 > wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-22 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 19:45:26 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Piece of metal tubing. > -Curt > > > On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 10:22:28 AM EST, tyee165 > wrote: > How do block it open? Or if you are Jim Cathey, a piece of cartridge brass -- I think he has a picture on hi

Re: [MBZ] 240d linkage

2018-01-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That is a good idea. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2018, at 8:31 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > My long-sold 123.190 had a similar problem, solved by pushing pieces of > rubber fuel hose over the ends of those prongs and then jamming the round > rubber into the square holes. I

Re: [MBZ] 240d linkage

2018-01-22 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
My long-sold 123.190 had a similar problem, solved by pushing pieces of rubber fuel hose over the ends of those prongs and then jamming the round rubber into the square holes. I think I had to replace the rubber once in three years, the PO / previous mechanic had implemented that fix and it was qu

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-22 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
ssion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started disconnecting hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then flushed some more. Now I filled it up with water and am running engine for a while. Will then flush it aga

Re: [MBZ] 240d linkage

2018-01-22 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
Fill with epoxy and then drill and file a new slot? Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" Date: 2018-01-21 4:06 PM (GMT-06:00) To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Subject: [MBZ] 240d linka

Re: [MBZ] 240d linkage

2018-01-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Here is the EPC for that engine and the injection pump/control subgroup: http://mb-teilekatalog.info/view_GroupAction.php?lang=E&mode=BM&class=1&aggtyp=M&catalog=67A&model=616912&spmno=0&group=07 Not sure exactly what you’re looking for, but this should get you close if it’s available as a separ

Re: [MBZ] 240d linkage

2018-01-22 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I think you have to buy the whole lever. On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On this 240d the linkage that comes from the pedal has 2 prongs that stick > into the linkage on the engine and should have 2 plastic busing things in > the h

Re: [MBZ] 240d linkage

2018-01-22 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
The rectangles? I'd carve them out of hard maple or get some brass stock, drill press, and file. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okieben

Re: [MBZ] 240d linkage

2018-01-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It almost looks very similar to the clip thing that goes in the linkage on a 124 60x vehicle.  I may try one of those. On 1/21/2018 8:54 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: If you go to a big old motorcycle shop or to an industrial supply in Tulsa, they might have something close,  On the BM

Re: [MBZ] 240d linkage

2018-01-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
If you go to a big old motorcycle shop or to an industrial supply in Tulsa, they might have something close, On the BMW /5 series, there is a little tit that goes in the transmission to hold the clutch cable housing. It might be possible to adapt wunna dem. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 240d linkage

2018-01-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I would still think this would be in the epc somewhere even if not available.  I guess the only other thing to do would be to adjust the linkage to make up for the slop created. On 1/21/2018 8:45 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: They have been not available for years.  I asked Q way long

Re: [MBZ] 240d linkage

2018-01-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
They have been not available for years. I asked Q way long ago. They MAY come with a new cable. They should! It would make for a very expensive half gram of plastic. Only thing I know of is to get a piece of 3/8 brass rod and machine your own. The brass will last forever. the plastic one

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
If you have a dehumidifier you could save it's output for this... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Seems like a waste of money to me. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 21, 2018, at 4:21 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Disherwasher detergent is used first, to remove the oil, which then lets the rest of the water soluble chemicals do their thing. On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > How well does baking soda dissolve into water? You could use it to > neutra

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Yes, it easily dissolves in a gallon of water. It's not a "really" strong solution. On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:52 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > The question rises, at that concentration, would it hold the acid in > suspension? 14 oz per gallon [approx] is pretty close to absorption point, > I

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
Ace hardware stores have it in the canning section. About $7 for 32 oz. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green,

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I agree. that is how I have always done it. In the old 'merkun iron with 4 gal cooling systems, we dumped in 2 gal prestone, then filled it with water. That way you KNOW it is good to 20 below. If you dumped in 50/50, you'd end up with 15 to 18 below, and could lose an engine or get strande

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
When I bought my first SDL, the OM603 was running without a thermostat for the first few months. I thought the thermo was stuck partly open because it never would get up to operating temp. When I finally figgered out WHERE the thermostat was, and had the new one in hand, I had to stick my fin

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On January 21, 2018 at 5:21 PM Russ Williams via Mercedes > wrote: > > > The Indy shop I use. Uses Distilled water when doing the citric acid > flush and mixing > with the coolant for final fill. > Remember to mix the coolant and water BEFORE adding it to the system. Without a drain cock i

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Seems like a waste of money to me. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 21, 2018, at 4:21 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes > wrote: > > The Indy shop I use. Uses Distilled water when doing the citric acid flush > and mixing > with the coolant for final fill. > Remember to mix the coolant and water BEFO

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Russ Williams via Mercedes
The Indy shop I use. Uses Distilled water when doing the citric acid flush and mixing with the coolant for final fill. Remember to mix the coolant and water BEFORE adding it to the system. Russ On Sun,1/21/18 15:56, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I would not think you would use distille

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Russ Williams via Mercedes
13.351 oz per Gal On Sun,1/21/18 15:43, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: From the PDF Rick just posted - 100 grams/liter of water for de-calcifying the cooling system. That's roughly (very) 14 oz./gallon. On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Curt, Looks like the Amazon list

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Yep... distilled for final fill... with tap water rinse, all drain cocks open... lower hose off, etc... fits what I've read so far... On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 2:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I would not think you would use distilled water just for a flush.

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I would not think you would use distilled water just for a flush. Need to use it when doing the final fill. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 21, 2018, at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Curt, > Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What > concentration do you use

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
How well does baking soda dissolve into water? You could use it to neutralize the acid. Maybe this is a good reason to do the dishwasher detergent treatment after, that should be basic... -Curt On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 4:52:34 PM EST, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: The question ris

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
The question rises, at that concentration, would it hold the acid in suspension? 14 oz per gallon [approx] is pretty close to absorption point, I would think Should do an "extra fine job" of pulling scale and iron rust off the interior surfaces of the cooling system followed by a flush, fl

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Holy toot! Almost a pound per gallon... Actually I've never weighed it. I wonder if you could reuse from one vehicle to another? -Curt On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 4:43:15 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: From the PDF Rick just posted - 100 grams/liter of water for de-calcifying the

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
From the PDF Rick just posted - 100 grams/liter of water for de-calcifying the cooling system. That's roughly (very) 14 oz./gallon. On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Curt, > Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What > concentration do you use w

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
To be honest if you buy that link I posted I also get a kickback through the Amazon affiliate program. For general cleaning you don't need very much, I usually get a gallon of hot water from the tap and add 3 or 4 tablespoons. One time I cooked the crystals in, I can't remember how much I finall

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Curt, Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What concentration do you use when using the dry powder? Mix with distilled water? or how, what? I have 6 vehicles that need cooling system cleaning, ASAP Thanks in advance. Grant... On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Curt Ra

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I can only tell you my experience with my '81 300TD. I saw the same thing in my '83 240D. If you run the engine up to operating temp, then shut it off and restart it'll over heat. I think with that procedure you could get away with it because you don't stop and start again but you can't drive ar

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Shut it off and restart, thats when it'll overheat. Thats how I got my '81 300TD for $300. Thats also how the previous owner managed to ruin the head gasket on that car. -Curt On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 3:33:11 PM EST, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I had mine running for

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I had mine running for 30-45 minutes with no thermostat and I could barely get the needle to move up at all Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 21, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > A 61x engine with the thermostat removed WILL overheat. The thermostat closes > the passage b

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
$2.24 a pound ‎ Here it is possibly cheaper, depending on shipping.  http://alphachemicals.com/citric_acid Rick

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Correction, make that $12/lb https://www.oemercedesbenzparts.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-lemon-acid-000989102511 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.o

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On January 21, 2018 at 2:58 PM David Bruckmann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > FWIW, citric acid powder is available from MB, A000989102511. I don't > remember the price; I bought four or five containers of it years ago. Thanks for the part number. Looks to be about $17/lb now. https://www.

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread David Bruckmann via Mercedes
FWIW, citric acid powder is available from MB, A000989102511. I don't remember the price; I bought four or five containers of it years ago. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time... -Curt On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:38:01 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%. That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid? It's in a handy container, just dump a p

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
A 61x engine with the thermostat removed WILL overheat. The thermostat closes the passage back into the engine forcing coolant into the radiator. Interestingly with a cold engine it won't happen right away but if you get the engine warm, shut it off and restart it'll overheat rapidly. -Curt

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
, Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush Removing it won't, blocking it open will... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android   On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:   Did you remove the thermostat to flush it? 

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Mitch asks: >‎Oh, it's dry citric acid? Yup. Granules, or crystals. If I could've waited the two days for delivery, I would've ordered online. With the car on jack stands and all the coolant drained out, I needed it today and not tomorrow. I think I did a search and this stuff turned up. I wen

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
This looks like the deal - under $7/lb with shipping: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005XTWMK4/ref=sspa_dk_detail_5?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B005XTWMK4&pd_rd_wg=bqBgV&pd_rd_r=544GMCGXF9RNHD846M92&pd_rd_w=5EGq2 Should last you a life time. On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:16 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@ok

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On January 21, 2018 at 12:44 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Mitch sez: > > >‎That would make it about $7/lb for citric >acid? > > Yeah. The stuff I got was 100%. Oh, it's dry citric acid? I assumed it was a solution in water. At any rate, a 10lb bag is cheaper per pound, but

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Mitch sez: >‎That would make it about $7/lb for citric >acid? Yeah. The stuff I got was 100%. Pricey, but I needed it now. I will probably buy the Milliards stuff from Amazon in a few weeks for two bucks a pound. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search li

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%. That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid? It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and throw away the bottle it came in. Mitch. > On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > > ‎I've used this stuff. 100% c

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it.  https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-softener-cleaner-and-salt-booster-24-oz/t006n/p-144183670.htm Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On January 21, 2018 at 10:48 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Water softener cleaner is 100% citric acid and can be found at hardware > stores inexpensively. Most of the stuff I looked at is Phosphoric Acid. http://www.jugfree.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Res-Care-Data.pdf ___

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Water softener cleaner is 100% citric acid and can be found at hardware stores inexpensively. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/m

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>> I removed the thermostat and >>reinstalled with the gasket but no >> thermostat >The best way is to put in a blocked-open >thermostat, otherwise you do >not get full flow through the radiator. On 61X engines the thermostat is removed. On 60X engines the thermostat is blocked open. At least th

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
How do block it open? Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes Date: 2018-01-21 8:09 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List , Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush Removing it

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Removing it won't, blocking it open will... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: Did you remove the thermostat to flush it?  It'll help make sure there is good flow through the whole system. Jaime On Sat, Jan 20, 20

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:53:06 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no > thermostat The best way is to put in a blocked-open thermostat, otherwise you do not get full flow through the radiator. > On 1/20/2018 4:50 PM, Jaime

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It is. Maybe the newest models might need the g48 but g05 is still approved Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 8:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > But isn't G05 approved for MB? Is there a cutoff year? > > Dwight Giles Jr. > 1982 300CD > 2005 E320 4matic > Wickford RI > >

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
But isn't G05 approved for MB? Is there a cutoff year? Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 2005 E320 4matic Wickford RI On Jan 20, 2018 8:24 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > That’s the honey colored stuff. The current MB AF is blue. > > -D > > > > On Jan 20, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mer

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Right. It’s not worth the $10 extra per gallon for any of my cars. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 7:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > That’s the honey colored stuff. The current MB AF is blue. > > -D > > >> On Jan 20, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes >> wr

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
You need to have citric acid on hand - for cleaning auto cooling systems, removing mineral deposits from the dishwasher, coffee pot, tea kettle, etc. (I'm guessing that your water is rather hard like ours is). http://www.chemistrystore.com/Chemicals_A-F-Citric_Acid_Anhydrous.html (where I've bough

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That’s the honey colored stuff. The current MB AF is blue. -D > On Jan 20, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" >> wrote: >> >> >> Not sure what you mean > > I hope he means Zerex G-05. > But isn't th

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well I have not filled it up yet because I have to wait for a thermostat to arrive.  I only use G05 On 1/20/2018 6:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: Not sure what you mean I hope he means Zerex G-05. But isn't the

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > Not sure what you mean I hope he means Zerex G-05. But isn't the current MBZ stuff orange? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Not sure what you mean. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 5:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Next time refill with Zerex coolant. > >> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no therm

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Next time refill with Zerex coolant. On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no thermostat > > > > On 1/20/2018 4:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: > >> Did you remove

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no thermostat On 1/20/2018 4:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: Did you remove the thermostat to flush it? It'll help make sure there is good flow through the whole system. Jaime On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Kaleb C.

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Did you remove the thermostat to flush it? It'll help make sure there is good flow through the whole system. Jaime On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a > littl

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a little easier. I can’t imagine trying to do a flush like this on say, a 642 powered car. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > The cooling system in my old 300TD ha

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well I just finished it up and pulled it back in the shop. Looking down in the radiator cap opening the top fins of the radiator look sparkling clean. I will say when I flushed it again after running the prestone in it a lot more junk came out, then on the next flush it was pretty clear. I would

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
The cooling system in my old 300TD had much brown sludge. I had a hose nozzle that neatly fit inside the heater hoses so I used it to flush the heater core and the engine just by running (lots of) tap water through the heater and the block. That seemed to do the job. ___

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I read about that but did not do it. It does not seem oily. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Is it oily? Isn't that the case where you put a little dishwasher detergent > (not dish soap) in? > > -Curt > > > On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 3:54:21 PM

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I spoke too soon. After flushing it the 2nd time while running it came out clear. I put the prestone in it and it’s running again for another 20 minutes. Will then flush it again and call it good. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > > So I filled it u

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I would wait until you get clear water, or it’s just going to be crudded up (still), just not as bad as before. I would flush it from the hose on the back of the engine with the radiator cap off. Run water through it for 5-10 minutes, then close it up and run it and check. My 82 300SD had a c

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Is it oily? Isn't that the case where you put a little dishwasher detergent (not dish soap) in? -Curt On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 3:54:21 PM EST, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: So I filled it up with water, let it run about 10 minutes then pulled the line going into the he

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So I filled it up with water, let it run about 10 minutes then pulled the line going into the heater valve. It came out dirt brown again. I then ran hose into the radiator cap until it ran clear again. I have done that twice so far and each time it comes up very dirty again. Next time I will pul

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