Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride

2014-11-14 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Dwight.That's a keeper. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. > Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 21:14:03 -0500 > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; fredh.s...@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > I saw one today @ Google store. "I

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2014-11-14 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
not impressionable either! > > Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. > > > To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 18:41:52 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > > I eat quiche

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2014-11-14 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
My wife needs a T Shirt with the following words"It's not nagging, It's great advice."She's not impressionable either! Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. > To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com > Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 18:41:52 -0500 > Subject:

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2014-11-14 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Message - From: "dseretakis--- via Mercedes" To: "Dan Penoff" ; "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride Actually I'm quite fond of quiche. You'd never guess of course since I'm

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2014-11-14 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Actually I'm quite fond of quiche. You'd never guess of course since I'm a manly man who drives MB diesels:) I have a softer side too you know. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 14, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Careful. I ate quiche yesterday and it was yummy! > > Okie B

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2014-11-14 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Nah, must have been some sort of egg pie and not quiche, surely. RB On 14/11/2014 1:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Careful. I ate quiche yesterday and it was yummy! Okie Benz had a quotes page at one time. Haven't looked to see if it's still there. Dan who believes he is a real man de

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2014-11-14 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
No, no, those were just rumours. He is still out there moving old MB's. RB On 14/11/2014 1:38 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Yes, Kaleb used to keep a quotes page on Okiebenz before he died. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: D

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2014-11-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Yes, Kaleb used to keep a quotes page on Okiebenz before he died. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Didn't we have somewhere to store memorable messages at one time? > I nominate this one. > > - Max Charleston SC _

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2014-11-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Careful. I ate quiche yesterday and it was yummy! Okie Benz had a quotes page at one time. Haven't looked to see if it's still there. Dan who believes he is a real man despite eating quiche Sent from my iPad > On Nov 14, 2014, at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > Didn't we ha

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2014-11-14 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 14/11/2014 6:57 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: That's cuz pansy ass Priapism driving pussies don't live in ND. Real men drive Mercedes diesels and trucks:) Didn't we have somewhere to store memorable messages at one time? I nominate this one. RB who drives a Mercedes diesel an

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2014-11-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You could also go and look on one of the pricing service pages, couldn't you? Doesn't Kelley and others have these? Dan Sent from my iPad > On Nov 14, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Tim Crone via Mercedes > wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:54 PM, OK Don wrote: >> >> Where are you getting those nu

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2014-11-14 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:54 PM, OK Don wrote: > Where are you getting those numbers? I just found the base TDI Passat at > $26,825 on www.vw.com. My SE with mandatory hole in the roof is listed as > $28,840 now, about the same as I paid in 2012. > vw.com, models, Passat, detailed, "as pictured

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2014-11-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Let's play nice, guys. Even if said in jest, some might take offense at comments like this. We've done a good job so far, let's keep it that way. Thanks! Dan Sent from my iPad > On Nov 14, 2014, at 7:57 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > That's cuz pansy ass Priapism driving puss

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2014-11-14 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
That's cuz pansy ass Priapism driving pussies don't live in ND. Real men drive Mercedes diesels and trucks:) Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Betcha see a lot more pickups in ND than prii > > Randy runs a pickup in the winter in Winnipe

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2014-11-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The Jetta I tested in 2012 was listed around $23k. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/lis

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2014-11-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Where are you getting those numbers? I just found the base TDI Passat at $26,825 on www.vw.com. My SE with mandatory hole in the roof is listed as $28,840 now, about the same as I paid in 2012. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Tim Crone via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > all base

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2014-11-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
ND is a wealthy state. Lots of bigger cars and SUVs in Grand Forks when we go there. No shortage of pickup trucks anywhere around here. Oddly, I do not see a lot of old ones. Not sure what happens to them. Rarely see 2WD versions either. RB On 13/11/2014 2:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote

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2014-11-13 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Betcha see a lot more pickups in ND than prii Randy runs a pickup in the winter in Winnipeg. How reliable are Pruises when it's 40 below? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride -- StopStart

2014-11-13 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Speaking of electrics and such, I noticed a coupla weeks ago sitting at a stop light next to a GLK that the motor was shutting off, then starting again when the car moved. The driver kept creeping forward so the car must have stopped and started 4 or 5 times while sitting there. That surprise

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2014-11-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
My acquaintance said that their battery was not covered under warranty, which was one of the motivations for dumping it. They bought it new, I know that much. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: > >> On 13/11/2014 1:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

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2014-11-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
How reliable are Pruises when it's 40 below? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 13/11/2014 2:34 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: > >> I think it was charge/discharge cycles over time. Something like 8-10 >> years, but as little as six.

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2014-11-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 13/11/2014 2:34 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: I think it was charge/discharge cycles over time. Something like 8-10 years, but as little as six. Short trips and poor driving habits (hard braking and accel). The base load is handled by the gas engine, the electric is used for power boost

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2014-11-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 13/11/2014 1:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I guess my next question would be, how long can one expect the main battery to last? Is it a time or mileage thing? Dan My understanding is that they have a good warranty and the batteries last very well. Pretty well all of the taxi cabs

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2014-11-13 Thread Clay via Mercedes
I think it was charge/discharge cycles over time. Something like 8-10 years, but as little as six. Short trips and poor driving habits (hard braking and accel). The base load is handled by the gas engine, the electric is used for power boost on highway and for slow speed/city traffic/starts

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2014-11-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I guess my next question would be, how long can one expect the main battery to last? Is it a time or mileage thing? Dan Sent from my iPad > On Nov 13, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Clay wrote: > > Batteries used to be in the $10k range for the early cars. Now there are > generics that run $3k. The pi

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2014-11-13 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Batteries used to be in the $10k range for the early cars. Now there are generics that run $3k. The pita is that the dumb cars are scrap when the little battery goes dead. The whole thing will not work until a fresh $200 (?!?) lead acid or glass wrap is put in. Then all the computers need a

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2014-11-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I'm not piling on or taking sides here, just curious: What kind of costs are involved in replacement of the batteries on a Prius? I had an acquaintance who bought one new and later sold or traded it when the batteries needed replacement. She didn't know what the costs were when I asked (her hu

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2014-11-13 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Curt has a $1500 Jetta TDI. Ah! Well, yes, used is usually cheaper than new. :) Best, Tim ___ I think Curt's point was that a used Jetta is so much cheaper than a new or used pious in working condition, that you can buy a LOT of D

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2014-11-13 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > Curt has a $1500 Jetta TDI. > Ah! Well, yes, used is usually cheaper than new. :) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or cha

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2014-11-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On November 13, 2014 at 12:04 PM Tim Crone via Mercedes > wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > We almost never see more than $0.50 spread which considering how much more > > you spent on your Prius than I spent on the Je

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2014-11-13 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > We almost never see more than $0.50 spread which considering how much more > you spent on your Prius than I spent on the Jetta will but a helluva lot of > fuel... > I'm curious how you arrive at this conc

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2014-11-13 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/volkswagens-new-diesel-motor-makes-268hp-could-get-up-t-1657874426 --R On 11/12/14 9:29 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: Yabut we wine drinkin', cheese eatin', ancient yuppies also care about the environment, global warming, little owls, rare mice, and EPA bur

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2014-11-12 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Yabut we wine drinkin', cheese eatin', ancient yuppies also care about the environment, global warming, little owls, rare mice, and EPA bureaucrats; so we buy Prius' and blow your smelly old diesels off the road. [:o) Gerry dseretakis wrote: > I still don't understand why the vast majority of

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2014-11-12 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Curt wrote: > We almost never see more than $0.50 spread which considering how much more > you spent on your Prius than I spent on the Jetta will but a helluva lot of > fuel... To be honest, if I were a few years younger I would probably have bought a used Jetta diesel or even driven my '83 30

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2014-11-12 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
I still don't understand why the vast majority of stupid American cows in the herd can't see this. A small engined diesel powered car will outperform a Priapism on all fronts yet they still buy priapisms. Argh!! Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 11, 2014, at 8:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > w

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2014-11-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
We almost never see more than $0.50 spread which considering how much more you spent on your Prius than I spent on the Jetta will but a helluva lot of fuel... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www

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2014-11-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I filled up @ $3.21 last week (Montgomery County, MD), but the price is now $3.33. Credit card sale.. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:34 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Curt wrote: > > TDI will do better faster. My record is 55mpg. > > Curt > > Your "Beetle" might do

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2014-11-12 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Curt wrote: > TDI will do better faster. My record is 55mpg. > Curt Your "Beetle" might do better up there where everything is downhill and the air is thicker, but down here in the flatlands, My Prius will clean your Beetles clock. (grin) Gerry > ___ > http

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2014-11-12 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Curt wrote: > Yeah around town... Let's go from Florida to New England and back. My TDI > will stomp a Prius for mileage, speed, comfort and price... > Curt Not if the price of diesel up there is a dollar more per gallon like it is down here fairly often. Besides that VWs break down a lot often

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2014-11-11 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Haven't yet checked the mpg by the usual methods. IMHO, the only number that counts. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mail

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2014-11-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
TDI will do better faster. My record is 55mpg. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinf

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2014-11-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Yeah around town... Let's go from Florida to New England and back. My TDI will stomp a Prius for mileage, speed, comfort and price... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ T

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2014-11-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What country? On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 3:32 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Mitch Haley wrote: > > > You had it (Prius) long enough to get any numbers on a long trip at > 70-75mph? > > G: On a 200 round trip at 60 mph it got around 46 mpg. > > > Still sort of tempt

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2014-11-11 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Mitch Haley wrote: > You had it (Prius) long enough to get any numbers on a long trip at 70-75mph? G: On a 200 round trip at 60 mph it got around 46 mpg. > Still sort of tempted to get a GM car with the 1.4L turbo, but I think I've > gotten over that bug. I'm thinking such a car would do low 4

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2014-11-11 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:09:00 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > VW Passat TDI - I hit 53 mpg on the road. > It all depends on the mission profile - mostly in town, get one of those > Jap hybrids, or even better, the Volt. For the highway, it's hard to equal, > much less beat, a modern Diesel. I

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2014-11-11 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
VW Passat TDI - I hit 53 mpg on the road. It all depends on the mission profile - mostly in town, get one of those Jap hybrids, or even better, the Volt. For the highway, it's hard to equal, much less beat, a modern Diesel. I saw some Diesel/electric buses in Providence last month - that's what we

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2014-11-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Rabbit Diesel 50 MPG on the road. archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: Tch! I pity wannabee yuppies who've been kicked out of wine and cheese bars because of the gas hogs they were driving. Gerrywho proudly displays his "Old Yuppie" certificate (that came with his Prius) on the back windo

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2014-11-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: Tch! I pity wannabee yuppies who've been kicked out of wine and cheese bars because of the gas hogs they were driving. Gerrywho proudly displays his "Old Yuppie" certificate (that came with his Prius) on the back window of his beautiful and elegant model th

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2014-11-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
They moved over to the whine and cheese bar. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Nov 10, 2014, at 8:06 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: Tch! I pity wannabee yuppies who've been kicked out of wine and cheese bars because of the gas hogs they were driving. Gerrywho proudly displays his "Ol

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2014-11-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 08:33:04 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Those guys on BAT must be lurking: http://bringatrailer.com/2014/11/09/1964-mack-b-series-road-tractor/ > When I was in college, there was an old Diamo

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2014-11-10 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 08:33:04 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Those guys on BAT must be lurking: > > http://bringatrailer.com/2014/11/09/1964-mack-b-series-road-tractor/ > Yup, they certainly must be! It really is pre

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2014-11-10 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Driving a Prius into a Starbuck's drive through. Can't get any more douchebaggy:) Would love to see a Jeremy Clarkson run over a priapism in a unimog. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > Nov 9 at 3:39 PM > Mark in Thousand Oaks > > I'd bu

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2014-11-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Nov 9 at 3:39 PM Mark in Thousand Oaks I'd buy this just to mess with the herd of Prius drivers at the local Starbucks drive through. --R On 11/10/14 8:33 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Those guys on BAT must be lurking: http://bringatrailer.com/2014/11/09/1964-mack-b-series-road-tracto