On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:53:37 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
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> The well at the Ranch is 980 ft with sweet water, I've had it tested
> and it tests way cleaner than city water, without anything done to it.
Congratulations!
> The water tanks sit on the side of a little mountain behind the house
house I lived in while in Guatemala back in the day had a 1k gallon below
ground tank that accepted city water during the rains, but too small for the
dry season. We installed a pair of 5k above ground tanks and the firetruck
would stop by at least once a month to top them off.
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where is belongs.
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> max out with a 500 gallon trailer mounted tank [near dangerous l
Like flight line fuel trucks, you want to haul full or empty so the CG stays
where is belongs.
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> max out with a 500 gallon trailer mounted tank [near dangerous load]
That's only about 4200#, about what a car weighs. Any reasonable
pickup truck should be able to do better than that, assuming the water
trailer has brakes. 1000 gallons seems highly plausible to me.
-- Jim
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On Friday, March 19,
Living off grid requires adjustment to your city living lifestyle. However,
with just a small change, it is worth the effort.
The well at the Ranch is 980 ft with sweet water, I've had it tested and it
tests way cleaner than city water, without anything done to it.
The water tanks sit on the side o
Oops, sorry. I was assuming that you would need 1000 gallon deliveries on the
regular. The weekly 100 gallon hauls would be just to extend that.
-Curt
On Friday, March 19, 2021, 11:41:57 AM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes
wrote:
I use somewhere on average of 3,000 gallons/month here. T
I use somewhere on average of 3,000 gallons/month here. That's a lot
more than I'd want to haul in a pickup truck. Of course you could
economize somewhat, but getting down to 100g/week would take some
extreme changes.
Allan
Curt Raymond writes:
> 100 gallons = 800#, a good load in a 1/2 ton pic
When our well pump broke we had to have water trucked in. 2,500 gallon cistern
that is normally filled from the well. Truck held more than that, we just had
them dump
the rest on the lawn.
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100 gallons = 800#, a good load in a 1/2 ton pickup with it sloshing around.
Start with a 1000 gallon delivery from a pro and then haul 100 gallons yourself
every week to supplement?
And I thought hauling water 100 feet from the pond to the camp was a hassle.
Actually the worst thing there was s
Yeah I've known people who didn't have utility water service and had to
haul it in. It quickly becomes a PITA especially if you're hauling it
yourself in small quantities (i.e. a tank in the bed of a pick-up
truck).
Allan
Floyd Thursby via Mercedes writes:
> Honey, while you're out can you pick
But it's a dry load
--FT
On 3/19/21 11:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Heh. Most of the houses I’ve seen tanks in have 1000 gallon tanks, and often
more than one. I’ve wondered what that sort of load is like on the floor in the
basements? That’s four tons of weight in a fairly small are
Heh. Most of the houses I’ve seen tanks in have 1000 gallon tanks, and often
more than one. I’ve wondered what that sort of load is like on the floor in the
basements? That’s four tons of weight in a fairly small area.
-D
> On Mar 19, 2021, at 10:55 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
Honey, while you're out can you pick up some potatoes, some beer, a
gallon of milk, and 500 gallons of water? Thanks!
--FT
On 3/19/21 10:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Agreed.
Trucking water is quite common in the area and is regulated by the County. The
water plant where my son is
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:44:36 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
wrote:
> Agreed.
>
> Trucking water is quite common in the area and is regulated by the
> County. The water plant where my son is an operator has a fill station
> for both the commercial haulers as well as private citizens who haul
> the
Agreed.
Trucking water is quite common in the area and is regulated by the County. The
water plant where my son is an operator has a fill station for both the
commercial haulers as well as private citizens who haul their own water. Not
sure of the cost, but it’s no doubt cheaper than sinking a
Although trucking in your water is a dependency, it is probably very
economical compared to $100k for a well.
DIY with a water tank trailer?
-
Max
Charleston SC
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 12:14 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> I have a coworker that purchas
Too small for SWMBA to cover. Her deals are for mines and oil field real
property deals. Selling a house bewilders her. As for effort, I can spruce up
the place a bit. Doing “business” is outside my bailiwick. Tend to be a bit
acerbic and terse when dealing with standard humans. Best that
On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:18:42 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
wrote:
> In your market if you’re willing to invest the time, I would consider
> FSBO if you’re looking to net the maximum out of the sale. It involves
> a lot more effort on your part, but the proceeds that you would net by
> doing so wo
They rotate plantings, potatoes are a major part of that but if you eat
broccoli theres a good chance at least some of it comes from Aroostook county
Maine. Broccoli is only once every 4 years though, otherwise mustard seeds
build up and the plants are hard to get rid of. They also do peas and
Sure, didn't you know about the herd of cats?
RB
On 17/03/2021 4:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
Can you farm something besides trees? Or potatoes?
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 4:39 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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We bought the farm next door to our farm
Can you farm something besides trees? Or potatoes?
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 4:39 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> We bought the farm next door to our farm thus providing road frontage.
> The "new" farm has been actively farmed through last year and we'd like to
> conti
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Do you mean that my 10 years of degrees and studies in the fine art of "Lesbian
Underwater Basket Weaving" is worthless in the job market place and I will
never be able to pay back the unforg
We bought the farm next door to our farm thus providing road frontage. The
"new" farm has been actively farmed through last year and we'd like to continue
that into the future. To help with that we're looking to merge some of the
fields on the front of our existing farm with those of the new fa
Flat fee service if that works for you. We’ve sold a couple of homes this way
when we wanted to be on MLS. Around $500 for the selling broker, you determine
the buyer’s broker’s commission - we usually pay 2%, which no one has yet to
turn their nose up at. The listing broker handles all of the s
This is not the tree farm?
Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 3:36 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> We had a lawyer do the whole transfer on the new farm. I think it cost
> all of $600. We did it all through the mail since Caribou is so far away...
We had a lawyer do the whole transfer on the new farm. I think it cost all of
$600. We did it all through the mail since Caribou is so far away...
-Curt
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 3:11:52 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:
I suggest a quiet sale, with no real estate brokers, go di
Yes what did Dan say about listing his old house? Flat fee listing service?
You definitely do not need the marketing help of an agent. Keep the 60k.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 12:11 PM G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:
> I suggest a quiet sale, with no real estate brokers, go directly to the
> best title co
Better get ahead of this trend
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/seattle-shrinking-seattleites-moved-out-in-droves-in-2020-though-they-didnt-go-far/
--FT
On 3/17/21 12:53 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
Mo money, mo money. Make mad money then sponsor a posr-covid Maine Q that will
I suggest a quiet sale, with no real estate brokers, go directly to the
best title company in your area and pay no real estate broker fees, put it
in your pocket instead. The title companies are the people that make it
happen, with all the legal documents and whistles, even if you use a real
estat
Probably had a PhD in Medieval English Literature
--FT
On 3/17/21 2:05 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
Floyd Thursby via Mercedes writes:
Note: Starbucks will be adding robot baristas as soon as the min wage
goes to $15, so you might want to go to trade school to learn how to
service ro
Yup, the way the billing was structured if definitely incentivized them to
cheat. I spent a significant portion of every day checking up on the call
center to make sure we were getting what we were paying for.
-Curt
On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 2:01:19 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes
w
Floyd Thursby via Mercedes writes:
> Note: Starbucks will be adding robot baristas as soon as the min wage
> goes to $15, so you might want to go to trade school to learn how to
> service robots. That might conflict with your deeply-held beliefs
> though, it would require showing up to work ever
Curt Raymond writes:
> The call had been "answered" which we paid the call center a fee for,
> but they wouldn't be connected to a tech for 10 minutes. The call
> center wanted you to hang up and call back so they could get paid the
> connection fee again...
Yes you have to be careful with incen
Mo money, mo money. Make mad money then sponsor a posr-covid Maine Q that will
rewrite the history books.
AZBob, who loves Maine, btw.
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> On Mar 17, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Go for the money. Prices _everywhere_ are going up, you'll need i
Go for the money. Prices _everywhere_ are going up, you'll need it.
-- Jim
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There is a very soft “offer” floated this week of $1.1M prior to listing. Once
it gets out into the MLS wilderness, then the circus begins and the six figure
bumps kick in. Up to SWMBA to decide if she wants three rings or a quiet sale
Clay
inter urinas et faeces nascimur
> On Mar 16, 2021,
I have a coworker that purchased 40 acres off grid in AZ several years ago. He
is retiring to there later this year. His water is trucked in on tank trucks.
Rick
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You can see pretty clearly how the precip varies with altitude. Flagstaff
looks a lot like the Black Hills despite being much further South.
https://wrcc.dri.edu/Climate/precip_freq_map_show.php?simg=az100y6.gif
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 9:38 PM OK Don via Mercedes
wrote:
> It must only rain in AZ
Thanks, Grant. That pretty well matches up with what I’m hearing for a similar
setup around Flagstaff. Youngest son says most of the city’s wells in the area
are between 1,000 and 1,500 feet deep. One of the wells they have in the San
Francisco mountains has a 36” casing! Imagine what it took to
Winter is the wet season in the southwest.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 12:38 AM OK Don via Mercedes
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> It must only rain in AZ and NM when I'm trying to fly over them .
>
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 10:50 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > OK Don via Mercedes
Welcome to Arizona, where "Whiskey is for drinking and Water is for
fighting."
I have a well at the Ranch. It is 998 ft deep, with good water. Cost for
the well, with pump and water tanks, was just shy of $90,000. I look at it
by comparing the monthly water bill for a city home, over 30 years, ju
Correct. There is a monsoon season in the area and it’s quite real. Just as
with other arid parts of the country, these often result in flash flooding and
related fun. This is why it’s important to pay attention to FEMA flood maps
when looking at raw land, especially in the open meadows. Water t
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I recall when I was a kid my dad’s good friend he went to college with,
they were both electronics
egree is a mark of worthlessness, not achievement. I
>> mean how worthless do you have to be to go tens of thousands into debt to
>> have your head poured full of useless crap?
>>
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> I recall when I was a kid my dad’s good friend he went to college with,
>
Just in time to participate in the Summer of Love II
--FT
On 3/16/21 11:44 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
Talking with realtors to off load the SEA home. This place has lost its mind.
I am being told that inventory is so tight I should expect bidding wars and
escalations of $200-300K over ask
o be to go tens of thousands into debt to
> have your head poured full of useless crap?
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crash, all over again.
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My snowmobile trail groomer apprentice is under 30, works in HVAC, ow
From what I've seen the problem is that companies seem to think they can just
throw all the work to an outsourcer and get quality results back. To get a
quality product a bunch of your cost savings are going to be eaten up in
managing the outsourcing company.
I actually did that for a little wh
We've gone through this at work, they offshored a bunch of stuff to China, the
results were disasterous, nothing usable came out of it.
Same thing in the Ukraine until they made the office there not an outsource
company but actual employees of our company, quality improved dramatically
although
Sit back and enjoy the ride, buddy. You’re firmly in the driver’s seat.
-D
> On Mar 16, 2021, at 11:44 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
>
> Talking with realtors to off load the SEA home. This place has lost its
> mind. I am being told that inventory is so tight I should expect bidding
> wars a
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I recall when I was a kid my dad’s good friend he went to college with, they
were b
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My snowmobile trail groomer apprentice is under 30, works in HVAC, owns a
duplex, drives a nice diesel Chevy and buys a new snowmobile every 5 years. Kid
has an excellent debt to income ratio and is doing really well with no student
l
It must only rain in AZ and NM when I'm trying to fly over them .
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 10:50 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> OK Don via Mercedes writes:
>
> > Does it ever rain in Arizona?
>
> I was just reading up on the Flagstaff climate, apparently they h
If you're thinking of selling, sell now to the suckers fleeing from
Cali. Get your money before the crash.
They are offering tens or hundreds of thousands over ask just to "avoid
negotiations"
Allan
Clay via Mercedes writes:
> Talking with realtors to off load the SEA home. This place has los
Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes writes:
> Much of the offshored work in software and other industries has been
> very poor quality and not as easily offshored as originally
> thought. This is why tech companies fight for immigration visas to
> bring people to the US.
That is true, and I have experie
OK Don via Mercedes writes:
> Does it ever rain in Arizona?
I was just reading up on the Flagstaff climate, apparently they have a
monsoon season of sorts but otherwise it's pretty arid.
Allan
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Talking with realtors to off load the SEA home. This place has lost its mind.
I am being told that inventory is so tight I should expect bidding wars and
escalations of $200-300K over asking. I just got home last week and already
two agents want to tour and give me market analysis. I did not
I think there has already been some discussion on this, but perhaps it was
another forum.
Much of the offshored work in software and other industries has been very
poor quality and not as easily offshored as originally thought. This is why
tech companies fight for immigration visas to bring people
>> Yes telecommuting is making a lot of people realize they could live
>> somewhere cheaper.
>Unfortunately their employers will eventually figure out that telecommuting
>will mean they can hire someone cheaper as well.
Yup. Sooner or later corporations will figure out an employee can telecommu
Flagstaff is at 7,000 feet
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 6:56 PM OK Don via Mercedes
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> Does it ever rain in Arizona?
>
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 8:21 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > We will join you on the group buy in Flagstaff.
> >
> > On the north end o
Arizona has rain, we just measure it differently.
A 10 inch rain means the raindrops were 10 inches apart.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 7:12 PM Craig via Mercedes
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> On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 20:55:55 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> > Does it ever rain in Arizona?
>
> Occasionally, just like
I remember being in Phoenix in February and it was pouring in the streets
were flooded.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 10:12 PM Craig via Mercedes
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> On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 20:55:55 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> > Does it ever rain in Arizona?
>
> Occasionally, just like New Mexico ...
>
>
On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 20:55:55 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
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> Does it ever rain in Arizona?
Occasionally, just like New Mexico ...
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On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 8:21 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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> We will join you on the group buy in Flagstaff.
>
> On the north end of the south island in NZ, there is no accessible
> groundwater. Fortunately, they get a lot of rain. Ev
We will join you on the group buy in Flagstaff.
On the north end of the south island in NZ, there is no accessible
groundwater. Fortunately, they get a lot of rain. Every house is built on a
giant concrete foundation which is waterproofed to store the rainwater,
which is filtered a bit and channel
Yabbut I’ve served on a board for many years, I don’t think I want to any more.
I bailed from mine after almost 10 years because I got tired of dealing with
petty stuff and idiots.
Just think - the CC&Rs could require Mercedes ownership!
-D
> On Mar 16, 2021, at 7:50 PM, Bob Rentfro via Merced
We could be our own HOA.
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> On Mar 16, 2021, at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Flagstaff? Holy. The prices there are stupid, just stupid. Even raw land is
> stupid, running around $100k/acre or more if it’s got utilities. I’m in no
> hurry. We’ll bide our
Flagstaff? Holy. The prices there are stupid, just stupid. Even raw land is
stupid, running around $100k/acre or more if it’s got utilities. I’m in no
hurry. We’ll bide our time and wait until the economy tanks and interest rates
start increasing.
I will say that if I could convince Mrs. Dan to
I would have loved to move out of the heat in Phoenix while I’ve been working
from home for the last year, but my job requires me to always be within 90
minutes of the plant site while on duty. Otherwise, I would’ve been out of here
like a scalded dog.
Now I just need all of these California m
Pretty much — what with working remotely even in high-paying jobs people can
live anywhere with decent broadband and an airport. And it’s warmer and cheaper
here and less gooberment interferences although they seem to want more of that
for reasons unclear.
The winter slow time never happened h
I recall when I was a kid my dad’s good friend he went to college with, they
were both electronics engineers, quit his job and went to HVAC school for a
coupla years. He worked his ass off night and day, eventually had a really big
business with several employees. Got tired of Indiana winters so
My snowmobile trail groomer apprentice is under 30, works in HVAC, owns a
duplex, drives a nice diesel Chevy and buys a new snowmobile every 5 years. Kid
has an excellent debt to income ratio and is doing really well with no student
loans. He's probably going to put in a mini-split for me in a
Or plumber. My eldest kicked around in dead-end jobs for 10 years until we got
on his case and told him he would end his life living in a van down by the
river if he didn’t find a decent means of employment. He looked at plumbing and
electrical, and ended up going to trade school for plumbing.
A good friend's son became a HVAC guy.. he has been doing it for 12 years
and has a solid 6 figure income and all the work he can do every day.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 9:58 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> Or automate them.
> I talked to a kid online a year or so ag
People are fleeing California to Arizona in huge numbers, and have been for
10 years now. They are driving real estate prices to what was considered
insane levels just 10 years ago, because the house they sold to leave CA
buys anything they want in AZ, plus .
Reasons for leaving CA are manifold, h
Or automate them.
I talked to a kid online a year or so ago who was "Thinking about some kind of
office job." Good luck kid, there aren't any filing or typing jobs anymore. The
secretary is nearly an obsolete job title.I advised going to trade school and
learning how to do something that people
Chasing coronavirus?
-Curt
On Tuesday, March 16, 2021, 12:50:38 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes
wrote:
People fleeing lockdown states?
Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes:
> Just looked at some real estate figures for the Tampa St. Pete area last
> night:
>
> 13.4% increase over the
Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes writes:
> Yes telecommuting is making a lot of people realize they could live
> somewhere cheaper.
Unfortunately their employers will eventually figure out that
telecommuting will mean they can hire someone cheaper as well.
Allan
People fleeing lockdown states?
Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes:
> Just looked at some real estate figures for the Tampa St. Pete area last
> night:
>
> 13.4% increase over the last year in closed sales
>
> -58.6% change in inventory in the last year
>
> 15.4% increase in median sale price in t
Lost my last kitty so the pepper plants are struggling.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 11:38 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> You won't be the first or the last. I'll sell you my vast estate, you
> can raise cat poop peppers.
>
> Pack your baggage in carpet bags, that wil
You won't be the first or the last. I'll sell you my vast estate, you
can raise cat poop peppers.
Pack your baggage in carpet bags, that will go over well with the natives
--FT
On 3/16/21 11:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
/Lotsa Yankees moving down here getting out of their northern
hellhol
*Lotsa Yankees moving down here getting out of their northern hellholes.
Unfortunately they bring their same attitudes with them with the same
results. I don’t know where they’ll move on to after screwing this place up*.
We are planning on moving down to Charleston - with trucks full of northern
Yes telecommuting is making a lot of people realize they could live
somewhere cheaper. Then they all show up there together with all the money
they got from selling their old places, and bid against each other in the
new place. Even so, it ends up being lots cheaper for them. I view it as a
long ov
It’s like that around here too. Lotsa Yankees moving down here getting out of
their northern hellholes. Unfortunately they bring their same attitudes with
them with the same results. I don’t know where they’ll move on to after
screwing this place up.
I need to get my place on the market.
Yan
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